[crystalrose]

People need to be reminded that alters are split off parts of you maybe past or present. They are not external forces,external people, animals or things. All these could be classed as delusion not alters. Thats my two cents worth. Feel free to disagree.

I agree with you crystalrose. alters are parts of a whole person. way we survived.
i find it fascinating that beyond the pain they have, there is much in the way of gifts they contribute to the whole. we are a very creative person.

[wanttoheal]

I agree as well. My T explained it like this. She said it's one brain. When trauma happened, my brain formed barriers so that I could still function outside of the trauma. This allowed me to survive the stuff going on, but still be able to carry on as if nothing had happened. That's what kept me sane and safe. As events happened in my life, more barriers were formed to hold what was going on for me at that time.

By some of the names T has told me about parts, I apparently imagined friends, distant family members and people I saw on TV taking the abuse (or needing to function) instead of me. I can see how people could imagine animals doing the same or protecting them, though I don't have any.

Regardless, it's all my brain and how my brain handled things to survive. When T talks about other parts of me, it doesn't feel like me but I do know that ultimately it is. It seems when some part does something good, I can't seem to accept that it's me, but when some part of me does something bad, my acceptance is full on. I think because I have been programmed to believe the bad so deeply.

Unfortunately for me, it doesn't work so well as an adult. I miss appointments, I end up lost sometimes. I can't be counted on sometimes, and that's hard. I want to be reliable and I want to be able to be counted on. DID gets in the way of my life today, but some days I am thankful that it happened to save me as a child.

This is a good discussion.

I heard that some alters could be animals...is that true?
As much as I struggle with DID, I guess it did save my life a few times.
Good topic

Originally Posted by wanttoheal

Unfortunately for me, it doesn't work so well as an adult. I miss appointments, I end up lost sometimes. I can't be counted on sometimes, and that's hard. I want to be reliable and I want to be able to be counted on. DID gets in the way of my life today, but some days I am thankful that it happened to save me as a child.

totally....

[Eriksplus]

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(Webber)Erik

[kris9999]

I am sorry but I would have to disagree with this! Alters are not just a part of who you were or who you are! If that is the case how is it that Becky is in her 30s and came to me when I was merely 4? So you're telling me that I was a 30 something year old when I was only 4? Alters may live inside of one body but if you took the time to learn about them you would see that they are different people. They each have seperate souls, seprate hearts and seprate minds. Just because you have more than one mind in your head does not mean that the original mind is the only one that is real or matters. You think what you want but PLEASE try not to post comments like this again that can offend and hurt people!

[(JD)]

Safe hugs to all.

Yes, eriks, it does feel and look like they are totally different people at times, doesn't it? And yes, these different aspects of a person can have their own blood pressures, temperatures, and even brain waves I think. But, they all do share, and control, the same body.

No reason to be angry. This phenomena just shows how intelligent the brain you have is, and how resourceful and creative you are! Yes, the brain/mind can create someone much older, especially if they are exposed to adults (such as through family, church, or even tv programs.) If that's what you needed, the resourcefulness of an adult, when you were small, they your brain created it for your own protection.

That is what DID is all about, imnshpo : safety.
And yes, as you age, those safety methods fail to work as well...often the need for them are long gone, yet that part of you doesn't realize it yet.

Once you can embrace that they just might all be part of you, or you part of one body and have the same goal as the others, then your communication will increase and healing can begin. What the end goal is for each part to take on an adult purpose and work together.

[(JD)]

Kris, I hear what you're saying too... and wanted to add that in some cases of DID the "original" personality of the "body" doesn't even exist any more. The parts were created to keep the "body" alive..and work to stay safe.

But you have to admit that all parts share the same body.

[Eriksplus]

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(kay)Erik

[kris9999]

Just because they share the same body does not mean that they are all the same person. The soul is MUCH more than just a body, the only purpose for the body is to make sure the soul lives on this world, and in some cases many souls live on this world. Do you expect me to look at the woman in my head as an "unreal" person when she has saved my life? When I can feel what she feels? A soul is what makes a person real, not a body. And as far as I am concerned "alters" are souls who all share a body and that is it! Each alter is a different and unique PERSON.

The body is useless without the soul yet the soul lives on beyond death! How can you say that they are not real when they have different minds, souls and everything else?

Originally Posted by _Sky

Kris, I hear what you're saying too... and wanted to add that in some cases of DID the "original" personality of the "body" doesn't even exist any more. The parts were created to keep the "body" alive..and work to stay safe.

But you have to admit that all parts share the same body.

[phoenix7]

internal? external? they came to help - i prob dont have the right to answer this thread - but i just wanted to say......help comes from many avenues - i dont think im making much sense cos im triggered but just wanted to say - they came to help - sorry

[ouroboros]

This thread just demonstrates ignorance of the experience of alters. Anyone can use a disease/delusion model to explain a disorder, but it takes a genuinely holistic approach to accept the pros and cons of this disorder. Think before you post...

[kris9999]

This is an inconsiderate thread that needs to be removed immediately

[angel12]

Originally Posted by kris9999

This is an inconsiderate thread that needs to be removed immediately

i totally agree with above, very insensitive

[phoenix7]

i know that people have taken offence and i understand why -

part of me thinks the thread should be removed because of that pain - and i dont agree that alters dont exist - they are part of the whole - the whole being what is in the body - spirit soul/souls call it/them what you will - splits? parts? internal? external? some or all?

part of me says arnt we allowed to say what we think? even if others disagree? cant we discuss this... put our points of view..... without hurting each other?

that is conflicting because it has hurt others - i do not believe that was the intent...... i believe in the good in people...... and i have enough love for all

i do not wish to hurt anyone - i do not wish others to be hurt -

[sabby]

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