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Old Mar 25, 2010, 12:32 PM
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Who are we? What are we? And are we bad?

Lots of people ask questions like these and sometimes when you answer them they dont lison. I want to get an opinon of who we are as alters.

You can respond twice if you find that someone in your system made a remark that is diffrent then you or what makes you well you.

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Old Mar 25, 2010, 04:43 PM
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Who are we?
We are survivors. We have endured that which no child or adult should have had to endured. Each of us is a part of a whole being. But because of the abuse that we had endured and our ability disassociate from the pain that allowed us the ability to survive. Each of us with in holds a piece of our story. Each of us with in has an ability to keep the body safe or to keep the others with in from knowing the abuse that the body has endured. We even have parts with life history different from the body history. Some would call them false memoirs but to us when we look at them as being a separate part of the whole their story helps us and guides us. We once told a person that we are our own Holy trinity X-ten fold. I say this to illustrate the fact that if the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost can be separated but still of the same being Why can't I be that way. We have two types of memoirs to deal with those that belong with our physical body and those of alters that have a story to tell that is from the spiritual side of our life’s.
What are we?
Now this one will be the most controversial answer you will get for the sole reason is that majority of mental health workers have separated the mind from the soul. If you look at all the past study of human life and physical science. Each one started with the question and hypothesis of why things are the way they are. When Multiply Personality Disorder was seen and confirmed to exist. They were looking to confirm its reality. For all those you can look at the understanding of DID thread. But now they call It DID these in reality are the symptoms of a survivors skill more understood. But are they? Do they truly take in consideration of the body, mind, and spirit? Or are those in charge of deciding our fate refusing to accept the reality of what made us who we are? These are web sites that will also give you more answers.
http://soulselfhelp.on.ca/didpro.html
http://www.didmpdinfo.com/Simple.html
To those with in and those raised in communities that accept who and what we are. To us we are spiritual beings. We were not able to remove our body from the abuse that we have suffered by other hands. But we were able to protect our soul up to a point. To us each of us endured until we could endure no more then a new or different part took over to help protect the spirit of the body.
And are we bad?
No, we are not bad. Some of us may do bad things but we are not bad.
This a quote that we tell each other when we ask within this question.
“The only way to strengthen one’s defenses against an organized attack on the mind and will is to understand better what the enemy is trying to do and to outwit him. Of course, one can vow to hold out till death, but even the relief of death is in the hands of the inquisitor. People can be brought to the threshold of death and then be stimulated into life again so that the torments can be renewed. Attempts at suicide are foreseen and can be forestalled.
In my opinion hardly anyone can resist such treatment. It all depends on the ego strength of the person and the exhaustive technique of the inquisitor.”
JOOST A.M. MEERLOO (1903-1976)
When we think of all that we have been through as a child before we were place in foster care. It blows our minds. And I mean all of those within. To think that we survived that which few adults could. So when I hear the question are we bad. I ask what was happening to the body when that part was created. How much did that part protect you from? Could you have done what that part did and keep your sanity and how much more abuse did that part save you from by doing that which the controller wanted the body to do. These are hard facts to deal with but they are true. Now when helping these parts to heal it is to reach that within that is still good, to allow that part to know and understand that it no longer has to hurt others in order to protect the body from more abuse. I was raised by a survivor that taught us to be a survivor. To those of us that were taught to be ashamed of who and what we are. Or even that we do not exist but just a fragment of our imagination this has harmed us, prevented us from healing. But for those of us that have been able to find Therapy with those that accept us as been real and capable to heal from the pain that binds us. We give our out most respect for giving those of us a chance to heal instead of binding us more in the pain that had created us. Thank you!
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Old Mar 25, 2010, 04:50 PM
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Mayple,
As I understand it, we as alters are ones that the host created in order to maintain safety and survive. Who we are is entirely up to us, I think, because even if we are bad or do bad things, we can change. Our counselor was 99.99% certain that I was a sociopath. All the criteria had been met to make that diagnosis, but Cris did not want that and so she decided that had to change. It was very difficult but I was able to make the change and I am still learning how to deal with this, but it is so much better. I think we are good. We are just aspects of the host, but I also believe that we can be separate. It sounds like I am rambling but I do not know how to express this better. Sorry if it sounds stupid.

Faith
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Old Mar 25, 2010, 04:54 PM
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We are who we are.
We are not who others think we are just because they think that way.
We know sometimes who we are but sometimes we do not know.
What we do know is that we will never stop fighting to stay safe.
What we do know is that we are all worthy of being loved.
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Old Mar 26, 2010, 03:06 PM
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we are who we are. No we are not bad. No we are not holding out host captive. We are what we are. We should be treeted as people to. Some think we are sole of our own all in one body. Wile others think that we are split off from our hosts. No matter what you think we are we should be treeted with respect. As people. As liveing things. Do not juge use. We are all diffrent. We want you to understand that we have feelings and it hurts when you tell us we are not real or are broken. I wish you to understand.

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Old Mar 28, 2010, 06:05 PM
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Lillyleaf,

You are good and you are absolutely fantastic!

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