DID is up for removal from the DSMV! please read

There is a motion in effect to remove DID from the DSMV!

We got till june 15, 2012 to send as many signitures as possible!

please have family and friends go to the site below and add thier surport!

We all have come so far this is our time to m ake sure we do not loose what we have gain in mential health!



http://www.igdid.com/h226-apa

Every time the DSM is revised many people submit petitions to remove or reclassify all types of disorders. There is no indication from medical professionals that DID will be removed or reclassified in the DSMV.

just because they want to remove it wont make it go away or not be real

please note if you go to the site a letter of intent has been found and posted!

true but we no want them to think those with DID not know what they are doing. By sending in the signitures we are able to let them know that we are here and are taken charge of our future.

When you stop and think about it and how we are treated because of the way we are different.

There are still those that use only partial informations even by those that surport DID and the positive ways of healing.

To us it is taken a stand for our own healing and not letting them remove the D'x and not know the people that are effected by it.

the site above has done most of the work all you have to do is give a name and email address.

so many of us are lost in a sea of people that cannot concieve what our life is like! Now is the time to at least to let the DSMV councle know we who we are.

we are greatful for those that will do so, but hope the others will understand the only way we are to get a better state of care is by advacating who and what we are to those that write our definition of who we are!
thank you all for reading this and helping us to stand for the quality of care for all of us! even those that are in state mential health.

we are already a member of that site and will go check it out later on

no need to panic.. DID is ****not **** being removed from the DSM5.. the lnk you posted is to a public website that any Jo or John doe makes on the internet.. I have seen this website before and that page you posted the link to (Ivory Gardens) has been up on the internet for years just like other survivors over the years have made websites about their own mental health issues, healing/recovery.

furthermore when reading that Ivory Gardens page it does have a link with in the page that will take you to the DSM5 page the APA has up on the internet...these pages on the DSM5 website have been going through many many different revisions, additions, updates for the past two-three years now. If they were going to remove DID from the DSM they wouldnt have spent the past yr-3 yrs revising the diagnostic criteria for it. plus the DSM5 update page does not include any recent changes or words that include dissociative disorders..

there is no mention at all about any of the dissociative disorders being removed from the DSM5. the most recent changes on the site are:

taken from the DSM5updating page at http://www.dsm5.org/Pages/Default.aspx

What’s New?
What specifically has changed on this site over the past year? Visitors may notice differences in the ways in which some proposed disorders are classified. Below are some of the changes.
Based on concerns about the reliability of the proposed Attenuated Psychosis Syndrome and Mixed Anxiety Depressive Disorder in the field trials, these two conditions are being recommended for further study in Section III, an area of DSM-5 for conditions that require further research before consideration as formal disorders.
We also added a footnote to the Major Depressive Disorder criteria to clarify the difference between normal bereavement associated with a significant loss and a diagnosis of a mental disorder. Many commentators noted the previous criteria erroneously implied that bereavement could be assumed to only last 2 months and we wanted to correct that misunderstanding and provide more information on how bereavement and other loss reactions differ from Major Depressive Disorder. The extensive public comment also highlighted the need to clarify that use of a checklist of the diagnostic criteria by people without clinical training is insufficient to make a clinical diagnosis.
Among the other significant changes in this posting is a more extensive Personality Disorders rationale for change with the reliability of dimensional measures and the categorical diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder now supported by Field Trial data. However, additional data analysis in this area is ongoing.
Diagnostic criteria for Pedophilic Disorder have been modified. The adjusted boundaries of this disorder are based more on biological developmental indicators of early puberty in victims to avoid implications that the disorder involves post-pubertal adolescent victims and to make the criteria consistent with the International Classification of Diseases.
Communication Disorders now include two diagnoses – Language Disorders and Speech Disorders – each with appropriate subtypes to cover all seven of the disorders previously proposed for categorization here.
Similarly, based on clinical feedback and the field trial documentation that Simple Somatic Symptom Disorder was a milder form of Complex Somatic Symptom Disorder, the two have now been combined as a single disorder: Somatic Symptom Disorder.
The diagnosis of Suicidal Behavioral Disorder is a newly proposed disorder that is intended to complement the previous proposal for Non-Suicidal Self Injury Disorder. The latter disorder was tested in the Field Trials with highly variable levels of reliability—final decisions about its placement in Section III for further study have not been made. Another disorder suggested for placement in Section III includes Persistent Complex Bereavement Disorder which has had conflicting disorder criteria proposed from previous studies of this condition. The Work Group has suggested a new criteria set that builds on previous research prior to full endorsement of this condition.

Readers will also notice changes in specific criteria for some of the disorders, including those in the Neurocognitive Disorders and the Anxiety Disorders chapters. Finally, we have also now included a proposed Cultural Formulation Interview for DSM-5, which also includes some specific questions for visitors to consider in thinking about how the manual can help clinicians more effectively assess cultural aspects of psychiatric diagnosis.


you can follow all the changes being made to the ***proposed***diagnostics and mental disorders that will be in the DSM5 http://www.dsm5.org/Pages/Default.aspx

if any mental disorders are to be changed or removed you will see it on the DSM5 website..

on this page http://www.dsm5.org/Pages/RecentUpdates.aspx of the DSM5 updates I found this about dissociative disorders revisions....

Dissociative Disorders

Dissociative Amnesia - minor wording changes and revisions to the subtype

Depersonalization /Derealization Disorder - minor wording changes

Dissociative Identity Disorder - minor wording changes and revisions to the specifiers

we are posting the letters and a link to the "Does DID Belong in DSM"
As it is true that it may not be removed just the thought that there is a letter and probally another forum collecting signatures to to remove this section. It does seem prudent to let the very people that are reviewing this informations that it is not a one sided event.

the options are now available and you do not have to go to another site to find the links to them. We hope that others are willing to take the time to respond in either manner that you feel safe with doing.

for me I am a surviver that want the sercurity to heal and grow without the fear of someone that does not live my life deciding my fate. For so long many of us have had no way to finding good help to recover from our pain.

we may not have the physcal proof of abuse that so many FMS are trying to make required but what we do have is a voice that can be heard. We only have to unite and write in !

Information and Instructions


First, I would like to thank you for your interest in reading this page.

Secondly, there is evidently a petition circulating asking that the work group at the APA consider removing Dissociative Identity Disorder from the DSMV - which will be released next year at this time. This would, of course, be devastating for those who live with Dissociative Identity Disorder. I have not 'seen' this petition, but found one answer to it here "Does DID Belong in DSM" ( http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~kihlstrm/DissDisMaster.htm ) From the date on this paper, it looks like the petition has been circulating for some time.

For the next two weeks the APA will be accepting final public comments before making final decisions and revisions to the DSMV. See APA Home Page (http://www.dsm5.org/Pages/Default.aspxor ) more information. Also, you can learn more about DID by watching the video on the sidebar of this page.

We are providing this opportunity for you all to read this letter and sign it, using the form following the letter. Please also include your comments. Comments do not need to made using any research. Personal experience is great.

If you do not feel comfortable writing here - or giving your real name or email here, you are welcome to send me the information in a private email at felicity4us2@gmail.com, and I will include the information when I forward it all to the APA.

You can also write to the APA yourself - by following the directions at their site - which was provided above.

We have barely 2 weeks to get in our thoughts to them. Please participate. It is very important that they also hear from us on this. We are hoping to gather 500 signatures. Pass the word - and encourage anyone who has/supports DID -



Letter to the APA

Dear Members of the American Psychiatric Association, Anxiety, Obsessive-Compulsive Spectrum, Posttraumatic, and Dissociative Disorders Work Group:

We are writing this to you as those who live with and/or support those living with Dissociative Identity Disorder.

Firstly, we would like to thank you all for the work that you do to ensure that the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders continues to provide for clinicians the definitive criteria that enable each to diagnose based on research, your teamwork, and input from outside folks, like us.

Secondly, we would like to add our voice to the immense amount of input that you must consider in order to make your decisions concerning writing the criteria for Dissociative Identity Disorder. Thus far, we find your revisions meeting the needs of this population. We are very impressed. These revisions will create forward movement for those who research trauma and dissociation - which in turn, will provide more information for clinicians to treat and diagnose.

Thirdly, it has been brought to our attention that there is a petition circulating that gives reason why and asks that Dissociative Identity Disorder be 'removed' from the DSMV. As you know, one of the difficulties of living with DID is that we are often invalidated - sometimes, by the very clinicians that are meant to treat and care for us, as well as some public opinion. We are often caught in the middle of controversy over whether the diagnosis of DID is even 'real'. Because our condition includes 'hiding', silenced by the terror of past abuse/trauma - threats of harm if we 'speak out', it can be difficult for many of us to be our own advocates.

We would like to have that chance now and hope that you read and consider our comments related to Dissociative Identity Disorder and the work that you are doing there.

Thank you for your time,

(signatures and comments attached).

Thank you amandalouise. we got a little scared because we do not really understand the dsm5 or any of that.
By the way hello amandalouise.

Hello nice to see you posting again...The DSM is a book like a dictionary. It tells the names of all the mental disorders in the USA that treatment providers treat what each mental disorder is, and what treatment providers look for..

example I had DID. when the psychiatrist was testing me to see if I had that mental disorder he knew from reading the current book of the DSM what symptoms to look for to see if I had DID.

kind of like a medical doctor has a dictionary called the Physicians Desk Reference to look at when they are diagnosing medical problems.

and like a student has a webster's dictionary to look at to help them spell and know what words are.

the number in the books name is how many times the book has been rewrote, revised, changed.. the DSM is being completely rewrote for the 5th time.