[itsmeleyreagain]

I put trigger above because I think this might be a trigger for some of you to have a bad time or suffer, or switch, if I move you to think about your traumas which undoubtedly many of you have

I wanted to know what constitutes trauma and if it is absolutely necessary to hav elived "trauma" to have, for example, DID. I Heard people with it usually have had horrible lives as children and have been abused, and Ihad the best childhood ever, always happy, in fact I remember many things from my childhood! My biggest problem has always been myself, Ifeel. Because my parents are still the best parents out there...always caring, taking me anywhere I need to...it was just me who couldn't see it back in time...i did tremendous harm to them back in time just because i was angry...

[ThisWayOut]

I don't know the criteria for did off the top of my head, so I cannot answer either or not trauma is a deciding factor. But I'm not quite sure if that is what you are actually asking. Only a licensed professional can diagnose it, no one here can do that for you.

As for a happy childhood and dissociation, I think we all dissociate to a degree. It's the severity and impairment caused by the dissociation that makes it a problem. Daydreaming is often considered dissociation, as is that state you might reach while driving a familiar route-you get to your destination but can't recall specifics of the drive. These are all normal dissociation that would not be categorized as a disorder.
DID is categorized by distinct "personalities" that step forward at different times. It may or may not involve co-consciousness, and is often times very disruptive to an individual's life. DID is actually pretty rare overall (only a small portion of the world's population is diagnosable), while dissociation to a milder degree is a petty common thing.
If you are concerned about dissociative behaviors, I would suggest seeking out a professional to talk to about it. They would be able to explore the feelings you are having, and be able to give you an idea of how to proceed.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by itsmeleyreagain

I put trigger above because I think this might be a trigger for some of you to have a bad time or suffer, or switch, if I move you to think about your traumas which undoubtedly many of you have

I wanted to know what constitutes trauma and if it is absolutely necessary to hav elived "trauma" to have, for example, DID. I Heard people with it usually have had horrible lives as children and have been abused, and Ihad the best childhood ever, always happy, in fact I remember many things from my childhood! My biggest problem has always been myself, Ifeel. Because my parents are still the best parents out there...always caring, taking me anywhere I need to...it was just me who couldn't see it back in time...i did tremendous harm to them back in time just because i was angry...

here in america trauma is a response to events in a persons life..

examples..

trauma shows its self in an accident victim through physical injuries such as a person who wipes out on their bike may have bruising, scratches, broken bones and a fear of riding their bike again..

trauma shows its self in an abused child by bruising, welts, broken bones, nightmares, sprains, panic attacks, and other Post Traumatic Stress disorder (PTSD) symptoms.

This is what the DSM 5 website says about the changes to DID diagnostics

Dissociative Identity Disorder
Several changes to the criteria for dissociative identity disorder have been made in DSM-5. First, Criterion
A has been expanded to include certain possession-form phenomena and functional neurological symptoms to account for more diverse presentations of the disorder. Second, Criterion A now specifically states
that transitions in identity may be observable by others or self-reported. Third, according to Criterion B, individuals with dissociative identity disorder may have recurrent gaps in recall for everyday events, not just
for traumatic experiences. Other text modifications clarify the nature and course of identity disruptions.

a co worker where I word just got her DSM 5..in simple laymans terms here in america the diagnostics for DID are....

having two or more special kinds of alters/identities/ certain possession-form phenomena that take control many times, these alters/identities/possessions have their own way of being, thinking and perceiving...basically the same criterion for A that the DSM IV TR had with expanding to clarify what types of alters fit this diagnostic, and including the wording of possession phenomena because some cultures use that wording to describe the process of switching into these alternate personalities.

these alters must not be because of having other mental disorders or other physical health disorders or because of participating in any religious/cultural rituals, the alters must also not be because of imaginary friends/fantasy play.

if the person being diagnosed presents with seizures the type of seizures can not be because of seizure disorders such as epilepsy.

the switching into these type of alters can be reported/witnessed by the person their self or others.

[montanan4ever]

Trauma is not one of the diagnostic criteria for any dissociative disorder.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by montanan4ever

Trauma is not one of the diagnostic criteria for any dissociative disorder.

no trauma is not one of the diagnostics because dissociation (being numb spacey, feeling not connected, not having any emotional feelings for something)

that said here where I live and work in NY which is in the USA it is believed with in the mental health field that DID happens when a child under the age of 5 is extremely abused and uses their dissociation skills to create alternate personalities that hold the abuse memories/feelings/emotions that the child is unable to handle at that moment of being abused.

other locations and treatment providers may believe differently. to find out what is believed about mental disorders in your locations, contact a mental health treatment provider.. they will explain what DID is and how it is created according to your own locations/cultures understanding of the disorder.

[MomgaJupiter]

I have DDNOS and no abuse trauma within my memory. I do know that I was VERY sensitive as a child, and that my parents were detached and unemotional. To fit in I shut down and went away. My therapist said she had read a recent study about DID and attachment issues. There is still the possibility that an alter has memories which I do not have access to, but I really doubt it.

[-jimi-]

I'm not sure this is true dissociation but if it is not I don't know which category it falls into since I have been freed from any suspicion of any personality disorders.

No trauma and no lost time. No alters. BUT a lot of different ego states that do have their own personality, thought pattern, morals and preferences. What I have noticed is that they hate each other and they just cannot exist at the same time. If I have to do something belonging to another ego state I feel sick and bad even if it is an everyday task. Also every ego state is easily influenced by things matching it, like if it was looking for itself.

I kind of just know everyone that is not DID is not full, solid people with a core sense of self. There are many things inbetween.

[Perna]

" Is it absolutely necessary to have a dissociative disorder to have trauma?" No. But it is probable that there was trauma if you have a dissociative disorder or you wouldn't "need" one.

Disorders of any sort generally come from trauma of some sort. Whether it was by one's parents/care givers or not is neither here nor there and what opinion we have of our parents/care givers and childhood does not necessarily tell whether they were abusive or not, just what we think/feel. People lie, cheat, or steal to keep from having to admit they were abused and some people who know they were abused will lie, cheat, or steal to keep from having to admit they have a mental disorder.

[-jimi-]

Originally Posted by Perna

Disorders of any sort generally come from trauma of some sort.

That is quite a bold statement.

[possum220]

Question.................... Why were you angry? That might be a place to start.