Hello, all.

First and foremost, I'm new to learning about my alters, and am not trying to make any of them a scapegoat for anything that I do wrong.

I'm just wondering, is it possible that an alter can take over with out you being aware and undo what you've done. For example, let's say you've written a page for a book you're working on for hours. You think it's good. Then, the next thing you know, it's torn up without really recalling tearing it.

Or another example. I work In a lab making thin sections. Alone, it's a task in itself. Doing it while trying to keep an alter away, is worse. It takes time to make one. Then when you're almost done, you have the strongest urge to fling it into the bin and start again, for no good reason.

I wouldn't do either of those things on my bad day, let alone a good one. So is it possible that it's because of an alter I'm not paying attention to?

Sticking with stories, I was asked to write a story. I came up with one I liked. It was light- hearted, funny and bright. The one I typed out though was completely opposite. Dark and unkind. I hated it and I hurt the person that requested it. Again, I'd never do that to someone.

Can I put it down to an alter that's attempting to get on the wrong side of me and is doing helluva great job of it?

*sigh*.

To all those with mpd (diagnosed or not), I take my hat off to you for dealing with what you deal with. I've been at it for a little more than a week, and I'm already drained.

You are all brave and strong to deal with your alters day in and day out. Great job!

[Kiya]

i'd say Yep. but this deserves an OH YEAH.

Yes dear. I just went through a bunch of drama myself. Steve resents me so much that he posts bad things on my accounts. It makes it so hard to come back on because it's extremely embarrassing and horrific. He's done this time and time again. Even now I'm feeling pretty shy about it, that's why I stayed away yesterday. He's promised to lay off, again, but everyone else got mad at him this time.

Right now I don't trust him, so yes, they can go out of their way to ruin your day.

Originally Posted by AlwaysChanging2

Yes dear. I just went through a bunch of drama myself. Steve resents me so much that he posts bad things on my accounts. It makes it so hard to come back on because it's extremely embarrassing and horrific. He's done this time and time again. Even now I'm feeling pretty shy about it, that's why I stayed away yesterday. He's promised to lay off, again, but everyone else got mad at him this time.

Right now I don't trust him, so yes, they can go out of their way to ruin your day.

Thank you for sharing AlwaysChanging2 . That couldn't have been easy.
I'm sorry Steve set out to embarrass you all like that.

It's also upsetting to know that there are some alters that don't like us, that take it as their due to upset and hurt not just us but people we care about and yet they are apart of us, you know.

Welcome back to pc.
Take care.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by Lexa2526

Hello, all.

First and foremost, I'm new to learning about my alters, and am not trying to make any of them a scapegoat for anything that I do wrong.

I'm just wondering, is it possible that an alter can take over with out you being aware and undo what you've done. For example, let's say you've written a page for a book you're working on for hours. You think it's good. Then, the next thing you know, it's torn up without really recalling tearing it.

Or another example. I work In a lab making thin sections. Alone, it's a task in itself. Doing it while trying to keep an alter away, is worse. It takes time to make one. Then when you're almost done, you have the strongest urge to fling it into the bin and start again, for no good reason.

I wouldn't do either of those things on my bad day, let alone a good one. So is it possible that it's because of an alter I'm not paying attention to?

Sticking with stories, I was asked to write a story. I came up with one I liked. It was light- hearted, funny and bright. The one I typed out though was completely opposite. Dark and unkind. I hated it and I hurt the person that requested it. Again, I'd never do that to someone.

Can I put it down to an alter that's attempting to get on the wrong side of me and is doing helluva great job of it?

*sigh*.

To all those with mpd (diagnosed or not), I take my hat off to you for dealing with what you deal with. I've been at it for a little more than a week, and I'm already drained.

You are all brave and strong to deal with your alters day in and day out. Great job!

Yes alters take over and sometimes the others (host and alters) dont know what happened/without the others (host and alters) being aware of it. this happening is called time loss/memory gaps and other terms here in my location and is in part what having DID is (having alternate personalities with their own jobs, purposes reasons for being, that take over ....more information on what DID is, is with in my signature link.)

America now has two dissociative disorders where a person has\can have alters...the first one is DID where there is things like time loss, memory loss basically where the alters take control and the person with DID and their internal system are not aware of some or all of what happens when the alters take control and the new mental disorder added in 2013 is OSDD (Other Specified Dissociative Disorder) this one is where there is less than marked discontinuity in dissociative symptoms meaning those with alters do remember what happens when their alters take control, dont have as much memory loss/time lost\amnesia as people with DID.

what determines whether a person has awareness of what the alters are doing or not is something called co consciousness. this is how much the person with DID and their alters share with each other, how much can be heard/ and done together.

As for alters sabotaging what the others do...happens all the time..Each alter with DID has their own job purpose, reason for being and they take control based on that and the triggers for dissociating...

example before I was integrated I would schedule an appointment with my therapist. sometimes I would go to the session only to find out that session was cancelled. OK schedule another one and this time call ahead and I find out that session was cancelled. this went one for months, finally my therapist just showed up at my door one day when she knew I would be home. we sat downand during this improptu session the alter that had cancelled the session came out and told her they had cancelled the appointment. their job was to ensure no one find out our secrets and they were going to dfo that by seeing I dont see my therapist anymore.

Another situation where alters sabotaged me was in my artwork sometimes I would spend hours doing my artwork only to find it later with turpentine poured on the painting or the sketch tore up, scribbled on...

these protector alters were just doing their job, purpose reason for being of ensuring our secrets were not being told.

I also had introjects ....a type of alter that is different than DID type alters)
who's job purpose reason for being was to be abusive to me and destroy things, emulate my abusers. though they are created through dissociation a person doesnt have to have Dissociative disorders to have an introject set on abusing and destroying/sabotaging ....here in NY we call introjects a step down from DID type alters, or not as severe as having DID type alters. kind of like people can have many different variations of having a cold. there are many different types of alters a person can have, some are more complicated and harder to treat than others.

[just2b]

Originally Posted by Lexa2526

Hello, all.

First and foremost, I'm new to learning about my alters, and am not trying to make any of them a scapegoat for anything that I do wrong.

I'm just wondering, is it possible that an alter can take over with out you being aware and undo what you've done. For example, let's say you've written a page for a book you're working on for hours. You think it's good. Then, the next thing you know, it's torn up without really recalling tearing it.

Or another example. I work In a lab making thin sections. Alone, it's a task in itself. Doing it while trying to keep an alter away, is worse. It takes time to make one. Then when you're almost done, you have the strongest urge to fling it into the bin and start again, for no good reason.

I wouldn't do either of those things on my bad day, let alone a good one. So is it possible that it's because of an alter I'm not paying attention to?

Sticking with stories, I was asked to write a story. I came up with one I liked. It was light- hearted, funny and bright. The one I typed out though was completely opposite. Dark and unkind. I hated it and I hurt the person that requested it. Again, I'd never do that to someone.

Can I put it down to an alter that's attempting to get on the wrong side of me and is doing helluva great job of it?

*sigh*.

To all those with mpd (diagnosed or not), I take my hat off to you for dealing with what you deal with. I've been at it for a little more than a week, and I'm already drained.

You are all brave and strong to deal with your alters day in and day out. Great job!

I deal with this as an on going thing. I have a very simple job. It is the same thing every day. But some days I miss something or many things and other days I feel as though I have no idea what i am doing. I guess i also have an alter that told my therapist that she is going to get me fired, and will do things as passive influence and these days i find very fruserating

Originally Posted by just2b

I deal with this as an on going thing. I have a very simple job. It is the same thing every day. But some days I miss something or many things and other days I feel as though I have no idea what i am doing. I guess i also have an alter that told my therapist that she is going to get me fired, and will do things as passive influence and these days i find very fruserating

Just2b, thank you for sharing .
I am sorry your alter's making work difficult for you. Hopefully, your therapist and you can figure out why alter wants to get you fired.

Good luck to you all.

Regards,
Lexa

Originally Posted by Lexa2526

Thank you for sharing AlwaysChanging2 . That couldn't have been easy.
I'm sorry Steve set out to embarrass you all like that.

It's also upsetting to know that there are some alters that don't like us, that take it as their due to upset and hurt not just us but people we care about and yet they are apart of us, you know.

Welcome back to pc.
Take care.

Thanks. Luv.

It like really sucks. We don't know who writes what and when. But when it's like mean and stupid, I just want to curl up and die, it's so like not cool. I just happen to find them because they are at the front. I'm so scared to click on them.

Then to find out that you are like in separation with your partner and you are divorcing.

Why even bother?

Originally Posted by amandalouise

Yes alters take over and sometimes the others (host and alters) dont know what happened/without the others (host and alters) being aware of it. this happening is called time loss/memory gaps and other terms here in my location and is in part what having DID is (having alternate personalities with their own jobs, purposes reasons for being, that take over ....more information on what DID is, is with in my signature link.)

America now has two dissociative disorders where a person has\can have alters...the first one is DID where there is things like time loss, memory loss basically where the alters take control and the person with DID and their internal system are not aware of some or all of what happens when the alters take control and the new mental disorder added in 2013 is OSDD (Other Specified Dissociative Disorder) this one is where there is less than marked discontinuity in dissociative symptoms meaning those with alters do remember what happens when their alters take control, dont have as much memory loss/time lost\amnesia as people with DID.

what determines whether a person has awareness of what the alters are doing or not is something called co consciousness. this is how much the person with DID and their alters share with each other, how much can be heard/ and done together.

As for alters sabotaging what the others do...happens all the time..Each alter with DID has their own job purpose, reason for being and they take control based on that and the triggers for dissociating...

example before I was integrated I would schedule an appointment with my therapist. sometimes I would go to the session only to find out that session was cancelled. OK schedule another one and this time call ahead and I find out that session was cancelled. this went one for months, finally my therapist just showed up at my door one day when she knew I would be home. we sat downand during this improptu session the alter that had cancelled the session came out and told her they had cancelled the appointment. their job was to ensure no one find out our secrets and they were going to dfo that by seeing I dont see my therapist anymore.

Another situation where alters sabotaged me was in my artwork sometimes I would spend hours doing my artwork only to find it later with turpentine poured on the painting or the sketch tore up, scribbled on...

these protector alters were just doing their job, purpose reason for being of ensuring our secrets were not being told.

I also had introjects ....a type of alter that is different than DID type alters)
who's job purpose reason for being was to be abusive to me and destroy things, emulate my abusers. though they are created through dissociation a person doesnt have to have Dissociative disorders to have an introject set on abusing and destroying/sabotaging ....here in NY we call introjects a step down from DID type alters, or not as severe as having DID type alters. kind of like people can have many different variations of having a cold. there are many different types of alters a person can have, some are more complicated and harder to treat than others.

We cannot thank you enough for this information

yes defenetly.

it does happen

[Chicken Fat]

thank u for reminding me,us. Friday was I was so dissociated in therapy. I think I freaked the entire office out including my Dr. It will be hard to return.

Originally Posted by Chicken Fat

thank u for reminding me,us. Friday was I was so dissociated in therapy. I think I freaked the entire office out including my Dr. It will be hard to return.

Thank you for sharing .

Don't stress about returning. I think they'll understand that an alter was in control and they won't fault you for that.

Your therapist has most probably seen other memorable alters front before. There's no need to be embarrassed .

I hope your next session goes well, and fronting or no fronting, you get the answers you need.

Originally Posted by Chicken Fat

thank u for reminding me,us. Friday was I was so dissociated in therapy. I think I freaked the entire office out including my Dr. It will be hard to return.

That's how. Feel! The first time we met our new pdoc, we had a freaky meltdown- wasn't me! Now it's like we're in trepidation of returning, but we're going to do it. WTH, we're mentally ill!

I hope you just do it. Like you're the first one, so I wouldn't sweat it.