[ShadowsinTheDay]

What do you think about this artical? Do you think it's over the top, or very accurate, or extreamly bad?

http://www.deeptrancenow.com/exc2_mu...ersonality.htm

ShadowsinTheDay

[(JD)]

I hope you'll let me weigh in on this, though not suffering with this disorder...

Other than the use of the MPD rather than the DID (as we do in USA) the information appears to be accurate. Brain waves, blood pressure, allergies... all can be different (though they don't have to be) with the various aspects of a person. Very interesting isn't it? I'd like for the naysayers to try and control THEIR bodies that way, said naysayers who think y'all are "faking" it... if you could control your bodies so powerfully on purpose, I doubt any of you would be "disordered" in any way!

I have DID and not all of the things in the article apply to me. Each individual is different and each "system" is different. I do know that sometimes the body has more strength and can do things that it can't other times--depends on who's in control. There are different likes and dislikes of food and clothes and such. But like Sky said, things don't have to be different. It is a puzzling and interesting state of being. Learning to live "multi" and appreciate what all parts of self have to offer is my goal. We're working toward it and all the "stuff" of the how it works and all that really doesn't matter. It's the learning to live and be who we are without the "dis-order" part.
w_i

[southernyankee]

It probably seems over the top to those who are without knowledge of DID or MPD. Sounds like SFI, huh.
Good Post "sky" It sounds pretty accurate to me too.
I have DID and I know that my left hand will work on it's own sometimes. like one personality controls the left and another the right.
I know every time I drive there another part of me takes over. I'll never forget the time "the driver" was trying to teach another part of me to drive a stick-shift. I was driving around New Orleans and all of a sudden I couldn't shift for the life of me. Got to a side street and could hear instructions going on in my head as I practiced shifting. Not funny at the time, but it is now.
What wasn't funny was being unaware of my other selves until I in my forties. If you can believe this, I was unaware of having black outs, up untill I moved south and they all felt safe enough to present themselves. No wonder I couldn't understand some peoples reaction
to me. Sorry got long winded here. Hope it helps with your questions about DID article.

[ShadowsinTheDay]

Hi Sky. What do you mean by this? Sorry, I just don't understand.
I'd like for the naysayers to try and control THEIR bodies that way, said naysayers who think y'all are "faking" it... if you could control your bodies so powerfully on purpose, I doubt any of you would be "disordered" in any way!"

ShadowsinTheDay
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[ShadowsinTheDay]

Thanks White, and Nelle for answering. . Ya, it does seem like SIFI... I bet it does to you guys to sometimes. LOL.
ShadowsinTheDay

[southernyankee]

Yea, it does seem like Sifi somethimes. LOL The mind is such an incrediable thing. Glad to help.
Take care of you

i think it is a fairly terrible article myself.

firstly, there is a considerable conceptual difference between 'multiple personalities' and 'dissociated identities'. the average number of alters is controversial (and i'm not seeing references).

> Another unusual feature of MPD is that each of a multiple's personalities possesses a different brain-wave pattern.

when we are doing different things our brain is, of course, in a different state. people are having enough trouble finding one self in the brain and as for finding more than one...

> Each has his own name, age, memories, and abilities. Often each also has his own style of handwriting, announced gender, cultural and racial background, artistic talents, foreign language fluency, and IQ.

that is an over-generalisation.

> Even more noteworthy are the biological changes that take place in a multiple's body when they switch personalities

which isn't so remarkable when you consider that the 'biological' changes are those that are known to have the greatest psychosomatic (which is to say psychological) component.

> Frequently a medical condition possessed by one personality will mysteriously vanish when another personality takes over.

hence that isn't so mysterious after all.

> By changing personalities, a multiple who is drunk can instantly become sober.

on a police breath / blood check? i don't think so...

> Other conditions that can vary from personality to personality include scars, burn marks, cysts, and left- and right-handedness. Visual acuity can differ, and some multiples have to carry two or three different pairs of eyeglasses to accommodate their alternating personalities. One personality can be color-blind and another not, and even eye color can change... There are cases of women who have two or three menstrual periods each month because each of their subpersonalities has its own cycle.

when these can't be explained by psychosomatic effects (or by the person manipulating their body) these are the sorts of claims that undermine the reputability of the diagnosis.

it is people who claim that dissociatives are 'remarkable' and 'bizzare' and 'special' and the like and make claims that are not supported by the evidence that leads others to think that the whole thing is a crock and they want to distinguish themselves from the whole fiasco and end up saying silly things about the phenomena not existing.

there is a middle ground here... somewhere...

[ShadowsinTheDay]

"> Even more noteworthy are the biological changes that take place in a multiple's body when they switch personalities

which isn't so remarkable when you consider that the 'biological' changes are those that are known to have the greatest psychosomatic (which is to say psychological) component."

Umm, by saying people with MPD are psycosamatic, an't you implying, that they just made it up? Like bodily illosions of the schizophrenia?

I'm just wondering.

ShadowsinTheDay

[LILITH]

Hello all,
I have alters who right left and right handed. Me the host has diabetes. My youner alter do not. When the littles are going to be out I reduce the amout of insulin I take. All of us with DID are different. What happens to some does not happen to others.

Altheia

Antidotal stories used as fact are pretty lame. Each person is different, each system is different. For me, the point is to protect the system by not letting there be obvious differences to outside ppl. My T and my H know there is a change, but even my closest friends don't always know--unless a little comes front. I really don't like these kinds of articles that parade themselves as fact. I agree--there are NO references and there fore this article can be trashed along with "pulp-fiction"
My opinions
MIss Di

to say that a symptom is psychosomatic (or has a psychosomatic component) is just to say that it has a psychological aspect to it.

the experience of pain are well known as having a significant psychosomatic component to it. hence... it is unsurprising that different alters have different pain thresholds.

the experience of allergies are well known as having a significant psychosomatic component to them. hence... it is unsurprising that different alters have different allergies.

if someone grew a third head with the emergence of an alter that would be pretty gosh darned amazing.

doesn't happen though.

some alters claim to be dogs or other species like that. if they took a DNA sample and found that the person actually had changed into a member of a different species then that would be pretty gosh darned amazing.

doesn't happen though.

to say something is psychosomatic (or has a psychosomatic aspect) is NOT to say that the person is making it up or to say that they have volountary control over it.

people who feel low are at increased risk of infection. so infection seems to have a psychosomatic component too. does that mean that infections aren't real? of course not.

[ShadowsinTheDay]

Yes, I understand. Thanks. I must have missed replying to this thread. i'm sorry.

ShadowsinTheDay

[fgh]

it aint called MPD no more so that's ancient
it aint bizzare like he called it so thats stupid
it takes therapy to know others are around and other people aint put the same way together so that's wrong too
a fragment and an alter are two different things so thats wrong
that we are distinct and different is right, but we dont go round switching allergies off and on, thats just plain stupid talk
it takes therapy to become aware and talk with others in a way to work toghter

sorry you asked?

nona

[fgh]

i dont understand why we gotta explain ourselves to any boddy like we arent real i take that real threatening

nona

I don't think that anybody has to explain themselves.

I dont' think that anybody is implying that DID isn't a real disorder.

I don't think that anybody is intending to threaten.

I think that some people come here and ask questions because they are looking for answers. Mostly because they are trying to make sense of their experience.

It is up to you whether you participate in the thread or not. Whether you share your experiences or not. Whether you share your thoughts or not.

If you don't like people asking questions then you really don't have to respond to their thread.

Other people might be in a better place to talk to the person, however, so it is nice that others have the opportunity to do that.

Peace.

[ShadowsinTheDay]

Thanks for replying. hey, I'd explain what I have, to people. It's just a matter of opinion. . You didn't have to explain anything. no one was forcing you. . But thanks anyways. Hey and by eplaining, not one was saying in teh least, that you are not real ok?
Nope, not sorry i asked. You can be, and sory for that. You gota ask questions if you want to learn. .

Nona, also, I guess since KD edited your thread, you might have said something b*d in it. Respect people please. If that was not the case, sorry that I said anything about the edit. No attack on my part ok?

ShadowsinTheDay