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Old Nov 28, 2017, 12:41 AM
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I’m on my phone and don’t have the icons.

Just saying.

Have you ever really asked “why?”

What did I do?

I was too young, from the first memory I have, to have made a decision to be disrespectful and defiant.

I don’t understand.

It’s late and I should be in bed sleeping, but here I am still sorting this out.

Anybody else?

Sorry.

It’s more a pleading ramble.

Just curious.
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 07:50 AM
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Why... yeah. I don't remember who, but some other me's came up with the invisible neon sign theory... like we had this invisible sign above our collective head that only abusive psychos could see and the thing was either a giant arrow or told the awful people they were welcome. I dunno. I have my own, different take on it, but yeah, certainly have. Hoping the sorting went ok for you and this finds you in a better place.
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Old Dec 03, 2017, 12:03 AM
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**** Trigger Warning ****

I’m on my phone and don’t have the icons.

Just saying.

Have you ever really asked “why?”

What did I do?

I was too young, from the first memory I have, to have made a decision to be disrespectful and defiant.

I don’t understand.

It’s late and I should be in bed sleeping, but here I am still sorting this out.

Anybody else?

Sorry.

It’s more a pleading ramble.

Just curious.
Absolutely. When I think back on what I went through as a child, I think, "How can two adults with college educations have such moronic ideas of parenting toddlers?" The quality of my life was destroyed by moronic parenting ideas in my Mom and Dad's brains. It must be that my parents thought everything was genetic.

Even chimpanzees know that toddlers have to be protected from harm until they are older.

In my Mom's case, it was because she was so hung up about her Mother spanking her for trying to abuse or bully her younger sisters. My Mom's mother was a second child so she probably did not tolerate Mom abusing her sisters at all. I do not know how severe the discipline was but Nana may have used inappropriate discipline on Mom. Mom jerked me up when I was about two and one-half years old, by one arm, and put welts all over my little toddler legs with a tree limb. Maybe Mom learned that from Nana.

Because my parents did not take parenting of toddlers seriously, they reduced the odds of their genetic line continuing. My older Brother is the only one who had children. Everyone of us, my brother, my sister, and myself, were damaged as toddlers. We all had emotional problems by the age of three. I got it worse because my Brother got to vent his crap on me.
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Old Dec 11, 2017, 04:37 PM
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"Why?" The sad answer is "Because they can." That's how predators operate. They look for weakness and then exploit it for their own selfish, perverted pleasure. Often times these same people are damaged in some way as well. Example: WARNING: EXTREME TRIGGER RISK :
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Also, sometimes it's as if there is no answer. My other personalities and I have adopted a saying recently that we say to each other at times like this. "Why is the sky blue?"
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Old Dec 16, 2017, 01:01 AM
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"Why?" The sad answer is "Because they can." That's how predators operate. They look for weakness and then exploit it for their own selfish, perverted pleasure. Often times these same people are damaged in some way as well. Example: WARNING: EXTREME TRIGGER RISK :
Possible trigger:

Also, sometimes it's as if there is no answer. My other personalities and I have adopted a saying recently that we say to each other at times like this. "Why is the sky blue?"
Small children do not understand their emotions. It is adults responsibility to monitor all toddlers from newborn to five. Children in that age group should never be un-monitored by adults.

My two-year older brother developed jealousy of me when I was born. This is a common phenomenon. Parents should know about this and deal with it but most do not. My Mom's parenting skills actually promoted my Brother's jealousy and eventual hatred of me. She told both of us when we were toddlers that it was normal for older brothers to "pick-on" their younger brothers. My brother developed an obsession with making me cry. I had no peace in my own home growing up.

But here is another case of parents not doing a simple thing to help their children. All I needed was one of my parents to talk to me about this relationship and help me remove my emotions from it. In my case it was the emotional pain that my brother caused me not the degree of physical abuse that caused me to have mental health problems. I was being abused by a family member that I loved so it caused me extreme emotional pain. I could not get out of the situation and I had no one in my family that had any common sense that I was being damaged psychologically by my brother.

Toddlers can be mean to other toddlers but they do not really understand those emotions and it is the adults responsibility to deal with these things when they come up. You, as a small child, should not have been left alone. Then this situation would not have occurred.
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Old Dec 16, 2017, 12:37 PM
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Small children do not understand their emotions. It is adults responsibility to monitor all toddlers from newborn to five. Children in that age group should never be un-monitored by adults.

My two-year older brother developed jealousy of me when I was born. This is a common phenomenon. Parents should know about this and deal with it but most do not. My Mom's parenting skills actually promoted my Brother's jealousy and eventual hatred of me. She told both of us when we were toddlers that it was normal for older brothers to "pick-on" their younger brothers. My brother developed an obsession with making me cry. I had no peace in my own home growing up.

But here is another case of parents not doing a simple thing to help their children. All I needed was one of my parents to talk to me about this relationship and help me remove my emotions from it. In my case it was the emotional pain that my brother caused me not the degree of physical abuse that caused me to have mental health problems. I was being abused by a family member that I loved so it caused me extreme emotional pain. I could not get out of the situation and I had no one in my family that had any common sense that I was being damaged psychologically by my brother.

Toddlers can be mean to other toddlers but they do not really understand those emotions and it is the adults responsibility to deal with these things when they come up. You, as a small child, should not have been left alone. Then this situation would not have occurred.
That's terrible. I believe that a family member may have abused me too but, I'm going to see a therapist before I settle on that being definite. It's truly awful the things that some parents don't seem to notice or just don't see anything wrong with when it comes to what their children have to put up with growing up.
Is your brother still mean to you?
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Old Dec 17, 2017, 07:59 PM
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That's terrible. I believe that a family member may have abused me too but, I'm going to see a therapist before I settle on that being definite. It's truly awful the things that some parents don't seem to notice or just don't see anything wrong with when it comes to what their children have to put up with growing up.
Is your brother still mean to you?
My brother and I can have some decent conversations on the phone. But I can sit in a room with him and not say a word and he will get mad at me. Or, I can try to converse with him and he will get mad at me. His anger at me was developed between the ages of two to four. At that age emotions can become part of the subconscious mind if the parents do not help the child understand the emotion. My brother would have to first admit he has a problem and then it would take years of psycho-therapy for him to release this hidden hatred of me.
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Old Dec 18, 2017, 10:33 AM
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My brother and I can have some decent conversations on the phone. But I can sit in a room with him and not say a word and he will get mad at me. Or, I can try to converse with him and he will get mad at me. His anger at me was developed between the ages of two to four. At that age emotions can become part of the subconscious mind if the parents do not help the child understand the emotion. My brother would have to first admit he has a problem and then it would take years of psycho-therapy for him to release this hidden hatred of me.
That's awful. I hate that it has to be that way for you.
I have a brother who is hard to get along with and has a horrible short temper and very little patience. Often times he's a bully, exhibits controlling behavior, demands that "his needs" be met and almost anything I do is never right or he treats me like I'm clueless. On top of all that I have to live with this asshole which I know is a bad way to refer to a family member but, I'm really getting pissed off and my patience with constantly having to walk on eggshells around him and continue to be diplomatic to keep the peace is wearing thin!
After I get some therapy and get my head together and my system back to functioning normally I'm getting my own place even if it's in one of the worst parts of town. As long as the rent is 300 or below I don't care how bad the crime rate is. I've had enough of this foolishness.
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