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Old Feb 18, 2019, 11:37 AM
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So I have contacted 2 Psychologists to be retested. They mention on their website hypnosis. That is not necessary for testing is it? I am dead against hypnosis.
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Old Feb 18, 2019, 12:44 PM
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Old Feb 18, 2019, 01:14 PM
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I'm not sure if hypnosis is necessary, Dnester. If you do not want hypnosis, I'd suggest to talk to your doctor about this and see how it goes from there. Hopefully he/she will be able to help you. Ask them if you can avoid hypnosis since you're against it. I'm so sorry, I know it's hard. Please don't give up. I hope you'll be able to get the help you need and deserve. You're a wonderful person and you deserve it. Remember that we're here for you if you need it. Feel free to PM me anytime. Let me know if I can do something to help you. Wish you good luck! Let us know how it goes. I'm so sorry you have to deal with this
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Old Feb 18, 2019, 01:33 PM
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Hypnosis is not part of any formal psychiatric or medical testing for anything.
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Old Feb 18, 2019, 01:48 PM
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So I have contacted 2 Psychologists to be retested. They mention on their website hypnosis. That is not necessary for testing is it? I am dead against hypnosis.
diagnostic testing for dissociative disorders is the same as any other testing. you will be meeting with the psychologist to just talk with them about your problems. then you will have some tests like you took in school, and tests where you answer the questions.

no hypnosis is not part of diagnostic testing. when you see that on treatment providers websites its just one of the many services they offer... example some offer DBT, CBT and some are certified for hypnosis and some are qualified to offer non traditional holistic therapies.

for the testing just tell the truth and dont try to second guess or exaggerate or try to manipulate the tests. if you do the psychologist will know, the testing process for mental disorders has validity scores, and scores that rate your responses including things like whether you hesitate to answer, fidget, appear to be one way but your answers are conflicting with what your body language, tone of voice.

for DID and other dissociative disorders they will be looking for things that are ......not ......found online.

they wont be looking at whether you switched into an alter in front of them, anyone can pretend to be an alter given access to youtube videos.

they will be looking at other accompanying symptoms that are not posted about on the internet, that only those who have the disorder actually go through, stuff that cant be learned through books, movies, video clips and researching the internet.

for example the testing psychologist will be looking for things like ...
"consistency / continuity" (dissociative disorders actually have consistency and continuity)
"sense of agency"
"testing scales" some have 5 some have 20 different scales built into the testing process.

the testing psychologist since you have already in the past been diagnosed with a dissociative disorder that no longer exists they will be looking at the diagnostics, symptoms and disorders that you wont have access to. the ones where the diagnosis's are not found online, in books or movies or in youtube video clips. things like 12 letter disorders starting with abc or xyz (purposely not posting the disorders since you do have a problem with hypochondria. after the psychologist diagnoses you with the mental disorders they will be explaining to you what the actual disorders names are and why you were diagnosed as that mental disorder you cant find in the DSM, ICD or on the internet or in youtube videos with out knowing the name of the disorder before being diagnosed with it)

my point is the psychologist will know whether you are trying to manipulate or be a disorder that you may be researching. so the best thing to do is be your self and take the testing honestly.

lets put it this way I know someone who asked questions on the internet and tried to get others to tell them things and those things were not on the tests and they got diagnosed with fictitious disorder imposed on self. then they had to retake the test and the second time around they did the test honestly and got the correct diagnosis.

You have been having such a hard time with trying to figure things out that I dont want this to happen to you.
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Old Feb 18, 2019, 05:45 PM
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Someone told me I had to see a medical doctor as well? Is this true? I already had a MRI 6 months ago that was normal. Also how long does this test take? Am I going to be in there for hours or is it something I have to do over a months time? I want to be retested but my old psychologist wont. So I will be going to someone for that while seeing my therapist. Then when my therapist leaves for vaca I will be going back to old Psychologist. She got doctor of the year in 2017. Or maybe I will start fresh with a new Psychologist until my therapist gets back. So I am trying to figure out time frames so my insurance will cover everybody.
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Old Feb 18, 2019, 06:09 PM
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Someone told me I had to see a medical doctor as well? Is this true? I already had a MRI 6 months ago that was normal. Also how long does this test take? Am I going to be in there for hours or is it something I have to do over a months time? I want to be retested but my old psychologist wont. So I will be going to someone for that while seeing my therapist. Then when my therapist leaves for vaca I will be going back to old Psychologist. She got doctor of the year in 2017. Or maybe I will start fresh with a new Psychologist until my therapist gets back. So I am trying to figure out time frames so my insurance will cover everybody.
how long the testing process is depends upon how honest you are, how long it takes you to answer the oral and written questions, how scheduling for the test appointments work out. what the psychologists schedule is, which of the many tests they decide to give you given what your past diagnosis are, cultural background is, and many other factors.

then after you do the testing process it takes time for the psychologist to send out the tests to get scored at special computer scoring companies that treatment providers use, what that scoring companies back log is, .....

my point is it takes how ever long it takes. this isnt something you can go in and do a test in an hour and get a diagnosis right away. it can take a very long time.

will you have medical tests, that depends upon what your own answers are. there are some physical health problems that share the same problems as many mental disorders. in order to diagnose these medical tests have to be done to rule out the problem being medical.

most people sign release of information forms so that the psychologist/ psychiatrist can get copies of the medical files which saves time and having to do medical tests.
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Old Feb 18, 2019, 08:47 PM
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I wouldn’t do hypnosis unless you like taking a nap. I put myself to sleep every time.
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Old Feb 18, 2019, 10:01 PM
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Only the person testing you can tell you how long the tests they will do will take. We have no way of knowing which diagnostic tests and interview process they are going to use or how long they intend to take to administer them.
My personal diagnostic interview with the psychiatrist took 2 hours. But who knows if your will be similar or not.
It took me about three weeks to get the formal results. But yours will likely be completely different.
The only person who can answer these questions is the person who will be testing you.

Who is the "someone" who told you you will have to see a medical doctor as well? If it was random person online what the heck do they know about what your therapists etc want to do? Nothing! If it was your therapist or psychiatrist who told you you will need to see a medical professional as well then ask them who and when they want you to do that.
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Old Feb 18, 2019, 10:13 PM
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I am on a reddit forum as well as this one. They said you have to see a medical doctor to make sure certain things arent coming from seizures, brain tumors, etc. That part really doesnt matter with me though. My MRI and EEG I had done six months ago was normal. I didnt have those tests for this though. It was for medical reasons.
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Old Feb 18, 2019, 10:17 PM
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I do want to retest my therapist said its not neccesary. Im just curious about all the people diagnosed DDNOS before the change certaintly they didnt all retest so what happens to them?
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Old Feb 18, 2019, 10:53 PM
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I do want to retest my therapist said its not neccesary. Im just curious about all the people diagnosed DDNOS before the change certaintly they didnt all retest so what happens to them?
treatment providers have their own ways of updating a persons mental disorders. they dont always have people get retested just because the APA has discontinued a diagnosis label.

instead of working with a "diagnosis" they work with "Symptoms and problems" and making treatment plan goals.

example when things changed over to the new system I had a couple NOS labeled disorders. those were removed from my file as in my treatment provider entered a notation stating "NA due to mental health system no longer has a disorder with NOS labeling" NA stands for no longer applies, which means from that moment on I was no longer diagnosed with the NOS disorders.

then we worked a treatment plan of goals where the therapist and I met, set goals and I had to accomplish those goals.

some of my mental disorders just "transferred" over to the new diagnosis names and others were removed and later when it was time for me to go through my annual testing process, I received my new diagnosis labels on the files.

like your treatment provider is trying to do with you, its not necessary for you to get a diagnosis,

being diagnosed with a mental disorder is a personal choice, you are the one choosing to be retested, no one is forcing you to do it or telling you, that you need to do it,

you can just continue working with your treatment provider based on what your problem areas are, setting goals and accomplishing those goals with out having mental disorder labels.

like I posted to you before, this is something where you will need to decide whether you want to have a diagnosis label or if you want to just accept how ever you are is how you are and work on your problems instead of having a diagnostic name.
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Old Feb 18, 2019, 11:33 PM
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I am on a reddit forum as well as this one. They said you have to see a medical doctor to make sure certain things arent coming from seizures, brain tumors, etc. That part really doesnt matter with me though. My MRI and EEG I had done six months ago was normal. I didnt have those tests for this though. It was for medical reasons.
They are wrong. You don't "need" to. I didn't need to in my diagnostic process. Some therapists/professionals might think it is necessary in any given case but that's up to them. People on reddit are not your treatment providers any more than we are. If you have questions about your testing and treatment, ask your treatment team. They are the only ones who can tell you what they need or want or plan to do.
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Old Feb 18, 2019, 11:38 PM
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I do want to retest my therapist said its not neccesary. Im just curious about all the people diagnosed DDNOS before the change certaintly they didnt all retest so what happens to them?
It's just not necessary to retest in all cases. Ones that were still in therapy probably just had their codes changed for insurance purposes. The clinicians were probably fairly sure of their clients' subtype of OSDD just from the course of therapy. Much of the diagnostic assessment just comes from interactions with the client over time rather than a formal diagnostic process anyway.
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Old Feb 19, 2019, 08:49 AM
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Looks like I wont be able to be tested anyway. The Psychologists I contacted said they couldnt do it.
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Looks like I wont be able to be tested anyway. The Psychologists I contacted said they couldnt do it.
Both said they couldn't?

When you contacted them what did you specifically request?
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Old Feb 19, 2019, 10:15 AM
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I asked them for OSDD testing both said they were not available to test at this time.
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Have you tried any of these quizzes yet?

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Old Feb 20, 2019, 09:16 AM
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I dont go by online quizzes for anything.
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These are psych central...the Sanity Test is a fun one....more general then specific.
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Old Feb 20, 2019, 10:03 AM
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I asked them for OSDD testing both said they were not available to test at this time.
I have to agree with amandalouise when she said:

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like I posted to you before, this is something where you will need to decide whether you want to have a diagnosis label or if you want to just accept how ever you are is how you are and work on your problems instead of having a diagnostic name
You have already said you are not going to change treatment providers.So maybe instead of complaining about them you should just allow them to treat you.Besides,even if you did get testing done and you don't have OSDD,what was your next plan?Do you think you can force your therapist to change what she believes or do things differently?What if you had been able to schedule with one of the psychologists and they said it was OSDD or DID? Would you have accepted it?What if they said it wasn't? have a feeling no matter what you would find a way to fight/defy any MH provider,regardless of what they say.

You haven't officially been diagnosed with anything yet by your therapist,she has just said that's what she thinks it is.Why not just go along with whatever she wants to do so she can either confirm it or rule it out? It's not something that can happen real fast,when you want it to,it takes time to receive a diagnosis.You seem to be wasting a lot of time obsessing over all of this and fighting all of this yet you refuse to find someone else.You refuse to be treated,you refuse to trust or believe anything you are told,even by anyone here at PC.

I'm not sure what you expect anyone here to do or to tell you.And it seems to me asking the same questions in different ways about so many different things here is just making everything worse for you.You really need to be talking to your therapist about all of this.Nobody here can fix this for you or tell you your diagnosis or anything else.
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Old Feb 20, 2019, 11:53 AM
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Im wondering if they wont test you because they cant test you....

you posted that you asked them to test you for OSDD. there is no test called the OSDD test. when people here in NY ask for a specific mental disorder test they are usually denied because that tells the psychiatrist a person may want that disorder and wont settle for anything less.

testing for mental disorders is a "whole battery of tests" they test for all mental disorders not just one. you cant just walk in a psychologist office and say I want the test for OSDD. because there is no one test called the OSDD test.

to be tested you will have to ask for "psychiatric evaluation for mental disorders"

also on feb 16th in another board says you have recently been diagnosed with a mental disorder that you dont want to reveal in the post....

this is what you posted 2 days before this thread here....

found May trigger thoughts

I have recently been diagnosed with something but am looking for unbiased opionions so I wont be sharing that. On a daily basis I have random thoughts. These are NOT auditory hallucinations. I call it chatter. Here is some of the chatter I have had in one day.

1) I dont want to be touched
2) We were molested like 5 times
3) I want to die
4) I want to be touched
5) I dont want to be stabbed in the stomach ( out of the blue, no trigger)
6) I wonder how so and so is doing ( and I could have cared less)

What could this be?

my point is since you just got diagnosed with something that you are not wanting to tell us about that may also be why you can not get retested now. its too soon. treatment providers do testing usually on a yearly basis not 2 days after getting a diagnosis you many not like.

Im with betty here. it's time to take a breath, relax and talk with your treatment providers. give them a chance to treat you rather then searching, researching and trying to get a diagnosis that you want...

none of us wants any mental disorders, let alone what our treatment providers tell us we have. in the end all we can do is accept that they have diagnosed us and move on to treatment. the way out of the diagnosis we dont agree with is working with treatment providers.

bottom line is we can not tell you what is going on in you. you will need to work with your treatment providers.

they will explain to you what your new diagnosis is and why they have diagnosed you with what ever it is you are not telling us about.
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Old Feb 20, 2019, 04:11 PM
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I hope you'll be able to get the help you need, Dnester. I'm afraid I must agree with what all the others have already said better than i ever could. Please try to listen to what your treatment providers have to say. They're there to help you after. Remember that we're here to support you. We can only do that, though. Support you. We can't diagnose you and we can't treat you. I'm so sorry, I know it's hard. Please don't give up. I hope things will get better soon for you. Remember that we're here for you if you need it. Feel free to PM me anytime. Let me know if I can do something to help you. Wish you good luck! Let us know how it goes. I'm so sorry you have to deal with this
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Old Feb 20, 2019, 10:28 PM
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Thanks guys. Im just going to roll with my therapist and hope in May when I see my old Psychologist I will get more of the answers I need. Sorry if I upset anyone. I wasnt aware there wasnt specfic testing for that. In that post on Q and A I did mean OSDD but I didnt want to say that because I am unsure of my diagnosis and didnt want to sway anyones opinion. As far a diagnosis though she does think I have OSDD but she said for most people since she is EMDR therapist she puts PTSD for billing usually.

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