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#421
I was 170 today. So better overall since Thanksgiving 2020 but basically I've just been the same weight these last 2 years. I believe my issue is my sleep. Going to bed at 6 and waking up at 2:30 and drinking zero sugar soda and then needing coffee isnt helping. So its later then I am usually up and I'm just trying to hang on for a bit. Ideally another couple hours but I need my meds which make me tired.
My mom says I know myself well and I do know a lot of my issues can be worked out if I just get my sleep under control. |
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I'm just fluctuating and not really losing weight. I think it's because I'm stress-eating.
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I'm just going to start having chicken nuggets for breakfast instead of yogurt or cereal. Its what I actually want to eat for breakfast and I figured its better then just denying myself until the middle of the afternoon or dinner and being frustrated all day. My therapist may not be happy about it but as long as I'm eating well the rest of the day it shouldnt be an issue.
But I ate fairly healthy today. I had a full calorie 20oz Mountain Dew just so I could review it for my brother in law in case I wanted him to get me more. My calories equaled to about 1270, 85 grams of protein, 176 grams of carbs, and 1668 mil of sodium. I weighed in at 167. |
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I have since packed away my size 14's and now wear size 16s. I'm petite - 5'2" (really, 5' 1.5", but my doctors always record me as 5'2", which messes with my BMI and risk factors). I'm >35% BMI. I'm now about 190 to 195 pounds, give or take. I fluctuate between 180 and 198 pounds. My fluctuation has always happened this way. I'm always 10 pounds this way or that. It's never a consistent number, even if I'm not wearing anything on my own weighing scale. I might need a new scale.
Earlier this year, I was around 165. That's how much weight I've gained. I'm really sad. I need to change my diet, but it is hard. I have CFS/ME and other physiological disorders, so it makes exercise impossible. I can try to walk, but then I have mental disorders preventing even that - meaning, preventing my going outside. Still, I try to do what I can. My goal for 2022 is to improve in small steps. That's what my T suggests, and that's also what my rec rehab T suggests. I plan on reading three diet books - FODMAP (my primary care and former nutritionist and former GI specialist doc suggested), the Obesity Code (my former primary care suggested), and the Diabetes Code (to prevent diabetes since I'm prediabetic, though without the diagnosis because I'm just at the cusp of having high blood sugar and not enough for the diagnosis). I will see what my diet should look like when I combine all three. There are ways to lose weight when exercise is not in the cards, but it is extremely difficult because it involves intermittent fasting and a strict lifestyle change. I'm not sure that I'm up for that challenge, but to initially lose the weight and then find a healthy balance of eating and living after that might work. I don't know. People always lose weight then regain it, which is what the Obesity Code book discusses; it's why short-term weight loss with calorie counting and exercise only does so much before you regain it a few weeks to a few months later. It always happens, since weight gain has to do with metabolic disorder/dysfunction/disease, and since our adipose cells can only be shrunk and not decreased (we all have a set amount, and the processed foods we had and our mothers had since birth affects our genetics and metabolism), This is why obesity is managed like mental illness; it's not our fault. We can have metabolic disorders, including obesity, but remain thin because of our strict restrictions and/or exercise regimens, which is part of managing (but not always feasible as you age and become more disabled, etc.). This is why obesity itself is a disease. Even our hormones that don't detect fulness, or even our "addictions to food" are caused by certain metabolic disorders and possible hormone and neurological disorders, as opposed to individual choices and so-called will-power. The more we reduce stigma and responsibility on weight and instead see this as a disorder to be managed, the better we can manage it and see the seriousness in how we live - not based on dieting (the yo-yo thing) or calories, but rather based on what our bodies are intolerant of, what our bodies need, and what limitations we have. Some can lose weight, some may need surgery, and some may not be able to lose weight at all. This obesity/metabolic disorder is the #1 risk factor apart from age for severe Covid-19 disease and death and long-Covid disabilities. Even for normal-weight persons, if they have a greater number of adipose cells, even though they've managed their weight and had weigh loss, they can still be at high-risk for severe Covid disease. It's similar to that of former smokers who are at risk for severe Covid-19, regardless if they've quit smoking or continue smoking, though the benefits of quitting smoking is much better than continuing. In a similar vein, our adipose cells may shrink during weight loss, but the amounts remain, which can still be conduits for Covid-19 to grow, sadly. Our immune responses also are affected by both age and adipose cells. The fatter the adipose cells and/or even the greater the number of shrunk adipose cells during weight loss or weight management may still affect immunity, which then affects severe flu and/or severe Covid-19 diseases. As we age, it gets harder and harder to deal with immune functions and adipose cell maintenance. It's a fact we accept, and it's something that we can learn to live with by understanding our limitations apart from others without metabolic disorders (others with normal amounts of adipose cells who only gain weight but are never obese). So, the more scientists, doctors, and the general public accept that obesity is a metabolic disease, the better we can actually manage it and destigmatize it from placing blame on individuals with such diseases. |
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#425
I did a lot of stress-eating today. I'm not hungry now. What I have to eat isn't appealing.
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I amazoned a 24 pack of 4 oz sliced mushrooms and have been adding a can to one or two meals a day. They really bulk up a meal with seeming like youre faking it. Its only been about a week so i dont know yet if its helping my weight much. But i like not feeling like i want a second serving before im done eating my first one. Now a meal feels like its the right size. At the end of it, im satisfied, i have a piece of fruit, maybe a cup of coffee. Not stuffed, not waiting for the hunger to go away. |
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#427
I eat cereal twice throughout the nice, then I have breakfast, later a sandwich and finally dinner. There's a snack before bed. I need help.
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Hey @SprinkL3
A couple of things I know I have mentioned it multiple times in this thread and no one (or maybe I missed someone) has really shared what they think about weighing themselves everyday. how do you feel about that? Personally I think its the worst thing a person can do, heavy or thin, diet or no diet. Its not reliable, stable and can trigger food disorder/disordered thinking and eating. Plus home scales are generally a good baseline but unless you have a certified company come and mechanically "balance" it every month like a Dr office you have no true way of knowing its accuracy. It would be a better idea for someone monitoring their weight or trying to lose it to go once a month to the same dr office and use their scale. I gained covid weight, who didnt? Locked down in cold weather with nothing but the comfort of a limited person or people who didnt indulge? I had a very active summer and was fortunate to have dropped the extra yet here we are at xmas time and I know by my clothes that the extra pie and cookies have put a little weight on me. But I will absolutely not be weighing myself until after the New Year. I refuse to ruin my holiday punishing and hating myself. I did/ do have a metabolic issue. Genetically I look just like my grandma and all 7 of her sisters. They worked a farm during the great depression so I know they were active and couildnt possibly overeat. I know I am rambling. People can do what they want but I am certain that weighing yourself everyday is terrible for the psyche. I speak as someone who was obese, had the roux-n-y gastric bypass, and kept the weight off for 14 years (well 127lbs give or take the 20 that I flip flop with). To some, especially now when WLS is soaring and people get the gastric sleeve pretty frequently, it might seem like I had it easy. Like all I did was lie down and have surgery and never had to think about it again. It is not easy. It is a tool and life adjustment that you have to commit to. I should look up the "failure"/ revision rate of these procedures because I personally know from my years in AA 6 women all who had a wls procedure and everyone of them lost and regained the weight within a few years. 2 of them had the same surgeon as me and 1 had a revision that didnt take. So if it is 'easy' it would work on everyone right? I cant stress enough the value of a lifetime adjustment. The bypass didnt reduce my stomach capacity and make me not hungry. The procedure I had actually reattaches the 'new stomach' to the small intestine and to do that about 100cm of the small intestine had to be removed. What that did was literally and fundamentally change the way I process and digest food; and make me sensitive to things like heavy fats and sugars. It was the smaller portions and the new digestion that made it work for me. It literally changed the way I metabolically process food for energy. It also change the way I metabolize meds too but thats another thread. Not to hijack but I urge you to google " orexin receptor and weight and sleep" something along those lines. My sleep doc is treating my for clinical insomnia ( not mental illness but physiologically caused) and sedative/hypnotics like ambien,lunesta,sonata, temazapam etc are generally not good long term. I am not saying you shouldnt take them long term but the long term side effect profile is concerning. Plus even though I am fully able to take medicine and not abuse it (ive had a pain medication ive used on an off for a couple of years, and various times of benzo use) I noticed some of those side effects from the gaba-targeted medicines. But he tried me on 'belsomra' which didnt work and now ive had dayvigo and it is probably working about 70%. I have to figure out the cpap situation because I cant seem to find a mask that doesnt press on my sinuses. But he told me to read about it and the orexin receptor and I was stunned. Ok enough from me. Quote:
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#429
I weigh myself every day and I don't have an issue. I did Noom for awhile and I was succesful and so did many other people who did it and one of the requirements is weighing yourself every day because you do indeed see changes every day.
I lost about 90 pounds on my own from November 2015 until Feb 2019 and I went from 236 to 147-155 and I stuck to that weight for over 2 years. Then in November 2019 my meds got messed up and I got to 170. Then I did gain the Covid weight as well and by November 2020 I was 187. But after switching my meds around and getting my motivation back I lost 20 pounds in a year. I do fluctate around alot though. I think I was 182 in June. I'm 166 now and I'm trying to work on my sleep schedule next because I think that is a big issue. But I havent kept all 90 pounds off but I have kept 70 pounds off in 5 years which is still a big deal. My weight issues were always related to my meds though. I never had a food addiction. |
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Thank you guys!
I don't know what to do. I don't have a nutritionist, and my primary care basically just tells me to surf the web and find something that fits with me. That's not real advice at all for someone who has all these issues, including thyroid, chronic fatigue, some strange thing causing my MONO% and other blood labs to repeatedly (this is the 3rd time now in 2 years) score abnormal. My blood sugar was really high, but then again, they never asked me to fast. I asked them, and they said I didn't need to. So I'm not sure if my blood sugar reading is accurate. All in all, I need to figure out what is wrong with me, and why my weight goes up and down. Just a few months back I was at around 163. I'm not sure how it spiked up to 195, though when I last weighed myself, I had a coat and heavy boots on. I just used the scale in the waiting room at the VA, so I'm probably more like around 190 or 185, which is what I last weighed in my apartment without clothes on. I don't weigh myself every day. I weigh myself like once every 3 months, LOL. My doctors don't even weigh me, which I think is odd. I honestly think my doctors are ignoring my needs out here. I am asking local friends if they'd be willing to walk with me outside. That's safe enough to socialize and get exercise and have protection with another person walking with me. I'm not going to restrict my diet until after the holidays. I need to enjoy the holidays before I can diet. LOL. |
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I'd have to see one with my original Medicare outside of the VA and pay copayments on that if I want to see a specialist. I might do that. I just have to find a reputable one though. Many doctors and nurses out here remain unvaccinated and follow Dr. Cole, from what I've heard. Also, there was this free prediabetes program through Medicare, and when I called the local number that Medicare provided, they told me that they don't get paid enough from Medicare to do that, and that I should just join a gym in their YMCA instead. They were very rude and judgmental to me on the phone, instead of helping me with the free Medicare program that they were supposed to offer. I hope they aren't getting paid for that program and not providing it to anyone, or to only a select few. That wouldn't be fair. It was supposed to be a program to help reverse prediabetes. So now I'm back to square one with trying to do things on my own. Even when you have Medicare as a backup, you don't really have anything at all if the doctors fail to accept it, and if the doctors also are buying into some other kind of belief system that prevents them from vaccinating around here. They will mask, but they won't even use N95s. I just don't get them out here. I just don't feel safe. The good news is that the VA is mandated to get vaccinated and follow certain protocols, so 85% are said to be vaccinated. But the rest all have excuses. Who knows what they are basing the 85% on though; nurses or doctors, one or the other? |
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I see an endocronolgist but I have to because of the meds I take that can only be prescribed by him. He gets covered by my insurance under "transgender confirmation care." Or something like that. But we never discuss my diet. Only my meds and blood levels.
Today I did have 10 Tyson chicken nuggets for breakfast. I got an iced tea which I thought was herbal but it wasnt. This is a local place with no nutrion info anywhere so I put it at 250 calories. Then I had a couple pieces of cinnamon cranberry goat cheese, and the noodles out of a small microwave cup of Campbells double soup. Dinner will be a can of potatos. It wasn't the best overall and I didn't meet my protein goal but I did stay way under my carbs goal and I stayed under my sodium goal as well and thats the most important to me. I am at roughly 1270 calories although I have no idea on the tea. I actually skipped soda today. Including the zero sugar caffeine free stuff I got the other day. I could use a sprite though for this sudden bout of nausea I have. |
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Last time I weighed myself I was 164 lbs.
I think my naltrexone/Wellbutrin weight loss medications are working good to decrease my appetite a lot. I don’t feel hungry anywhere near as often as I normally do. __________________ “All the darkness in the world cannot extinguish the light of a single candle.” -St. Francis of Assisi
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I was 165.6 or .4 today. I took my zofran last night so I was pretty hungry. For breakfast I had 10 Tyson nuggets, 2 Sodas, and 4 candy bars. 2 were just small ones though about 130 calories each. I got an iced tea but I got it with splenda. I also got a lemonade coffee and I'm not sure on the calories on that. I had about 3 servings of pizza Goldfish crackers for lunch. But I havent been hungry for actual food today besides the nuggets. I was thinking of going out to eat but I changed my mind. So I'm guessing I will just maintain my weight or go up a pound. Maybe I should legit just not weigh myself in the morning.
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Im getting closer to 240. I kinda go in increments of 40 lbs - its what it takes to make a noticeable difference in how i look and feel.
And i just cleaned some garbage out of the apartment so i should be able to clear up a little exercise spot, so that will help. The rice and potatoes based diet plus veg n protein seems to be working at controlling my appetite, but i need to start tracking my blood sugar again. Dr appt next week. |
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I quit smoking in March. Have put on 20-25 lbs since, and I was already heavy. I've got to do something about the weight. I hit 200 lbs and that's really bothering me.
I decided I want to get into playing ice hockey. Women's league. Figured it would be good for me. Started practicing skating. Got on the wait list for the adult skating class. Hope I can get in. I am way overweight and need to get in shape. Trying to get myself motivated to workout at home this morning. It's so hard. Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk |
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@scatterbrained04 - Congratulations on quitting smoking! I quit smoking on March 27, 2020. I'm approaching 2 years nicotine- and tobacco-free! I quit cold turkey.
I initially lost 30 pounds, but then I gained it all back. I'm about 185 to 195, give or take. I'm short (5'2"), so this makes my BMI skyrocket high! The VA's MOVE plan states the importance of movement, especially for those who have mobility issues and cannot do exercise. Movement can also help burn calories and keep good blood flow. Diet is important. There are many different diets out there, but really, it's a lifestyle change once you hit obesity (>30 BMI). Obesity is a metabolic disorder, so your adipose cells don't decrease in number; they only shrink in size. Sadly, obesity entails having more adipose cells than normal, and it also entails having engorged cells at that! The worst fat is visceral fat, the kind that forms around your organs, which is typically in the upper abdomen area. Belly fat is the worst, and it's the hardest to get rid of. However, even thin people might have visceral fat that hides around organs. Quote:
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I was 170 yesterday and today. Stupid visteril and zofran. I have not had either today and so far my appetite has been ok. I had a couple full size calorie sodas and a few sips of a lemonade mixed with espresso. But I also had a yogurt and an orange. I plan on having the noodles from a can of soup in a bit and then 5 chicken nuggets and an atkins shake for dinner. Right now I'm going between 165 and 170. I do plan on giving myself Christmas off but I also want to be mindful of the other Christmases I gave myself off and deeply regretted it physically. There was one Christmas where I ate half a big bag of Jays Open Pit BBQ chips in one sitting. It took 3 days of healthy eating to get them out of my system and I swore off them for a long time.
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Dewd, hardly any of the food you eat has any nutritional value. Like it cant be used to repair / create new cells. You cant make hair and skin out of soda pop and potato chips. They are truly empty calories. All they can do is clog up your liver and make you unhealthy and gain weight. I can just see your liver saying, wtf is this stuff? You need to go like 80/20 the other way - 80 percent nutrition, 20 percent junk food.
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