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Default Feb 18, 2016 at 08:39 PM
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I asked the pdoc while I was in the hospital to please not just diagnose me due to prior diagnoses because I do not think they are accurate. But as always they did. There are other notes that I saw posted and researched wish sound more accurate, and they didn't actually tell me what I was diagnosed with this time, but I saw this info when the discharge nurse was going over my paperwork. I'm thinking they kept me so long because they didn't actually come up with a set diagnosis, however I'm being treated for the same things I was in the past which were ineffective. I'm actually changing moods and behaviors daily now with the new meds I'm taking. I guess what my question is, is that this is normal behavior when taking neurontin (new) Effexor (new) vistaril (new) and trazadone (taken before) I get different mood swings daily, but there is a main one for the most part everyday, but different everyday. Does that even make sense?

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I neither know the diagnosis or the medications is normal for you. I do know that most medications have side-effects and if the mood was getting worse than the dosage may need to be decreased (or sometimes increased). If you mood is getting worse it is good to let your doctor know about it so he/she can alter that problem, it is also great to let him/her know if you are feeling better.
Is Pdoctor a paediatrician doctor?, depending on your age and health they may not disclose you with all the information, I assume they notified your parent/s?. I assume you will see the doctor for a check-up appointment, so in the meantime just try to take it easy on yourself and be mindful about your behaviour correlating with the medication, maybe keep a diary.
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I neither know the diagnosis or the medications is normal for you. I do know that most medications have side-effects and if the mood was getting worse than the dosage may need to be decreased (or sometimes increased). If you mood is getting worse it is good to let your doctor know about it so he/she can alter that problem, it is also great to let him/her know if you are feeling better.
Is Pdoctor a paediatrician doctor?, depending on your age and health they may not disclose you with all the information, I assume they notified your parent/s?. I assume you will see the doctor for a check-up appointment, so in the meantime just try to take it easy on yourself and be mindful about your behaviour correlating with the medication, maybe keep a diary.
I'm 40 years old. I'm having trouble finding a pdoc. Or regular doc for that matter. Apparently no one is taking new patients with medicaid. I was released from the psych hospital almost a month ago. I have only been living in Co since the end of Sept. I had a lot of things happen in a very short time and kinda had a meltdown. I have no family or friends out here so I'm having trouble figuring things out. Ok I sort of have 1 friend but he's my ex and acts like I don't exist most the time. I seriously feel better than I have since I was a kid, it's just the mood swings are driving me crazy. I was wondering if anyone has had similar reactions

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If I understand correctly these new medication changes are fairly recent. Some may take up to 2mos before a positive effect is noticable. It may be a challenging time until that happens. Can you ask the pdoc(s) if this is normal or better yet, ask them about what changes they desired when prescribing them to you?

In the meantime perhaps you might come up with a coping plan. Mindfullness and Distraction work well for me.
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If I understand correctly these new medication changes are fairly recent. Some may take up to 2mos before a positive effect is noticable. It may be a challenging time until that happens. Can you ask the pdoc(s) if this is normal or better yet, ask them about what changes they desired when prescribing them to you?

In the meantime perhaps you might come up with a coping plan. Mindfullness and Distraction work well for me.
Yeah I've been on a little over a month. I called hospital I was at and they said check back in for evaluation, I will wait unless it becomes unbearable, and keep trying to find a pdoc outside. My experience was less than desirable. Only in a depressed state would I go back. But I have been doing distraction. Mindfullness is in the beginning stages, and walls are my best friends

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i take depacote for my mood problems and i know it helps greatly.just a suggestion.
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I'll bring it up with pdoc whenever I finally see one. March 8th I see someone.

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I'm 40 years old. I'm having trouble finding a pdoc. Or regular doc for that matter. Apparently no one is taking new patients with medicaid. I was released from the psych hospital almost a month ago. I have only been living in Co since the end of Sept. I had a lot of things happen in a very short time and kinda had a meltdown. I have no family or friends out here so I'm having trouble figuring things out. Ok I sort of have 1 friend but he's my ex and acts like I don't exist most the time. I seriously feel better than I have since I was a kid, it's just the mood swings are driving me crazy. I was wondering if anyone has had similar reactions

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From what I've read it may be wise to spend less time with the ex. How about church, gym or a social group?. You could even take a few classes to keep yourself busy. Its good that there are some progress, it might be good to see a GP that can be you're regular doctor if the mood swings are dangerous to you or to others, its also for the benefit of getting prescriptions and the doctor can evaluate of the medication dosage.
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From what I've read it may be wise to spend less time with the ex. How about church, gym or a social group?. You could even take a few classes to keep yourself busy. Its good that there are some progress, it might be good to see a GP that can be you're regular doctor if the mood swings are dangerous to you or to others, its also for the benefit of getting prescriptions and the doctor can evaluate of the medication dosage.
I spend as little time with the ex as possible, however I'm living in his home. That is a whole other post in and of itself! I know the situation is unhealthy and adding to my problems. I'm unable to go to church because it is a trigger for me. I cannot do the gym due to my anxiety disorders, and I'm having trouble finding a social group outside the Internet, because I don't know where anything is out here (have to rely on ex for that) and my social anxiety disorder is terrible. I would love to take some classes to keep me and my mind busy but I currently have no income. I have been searching things up online however. I'm trying. And as for the doctors, I think life is trying to mess with me big time! I have a therapist that schedules me in when he can instead of pre booking into the future, so I get to go 3 weeks before I see him again. And I cannot find a psychiatrist or a gp,md any kind of regular doctor that is taking new patients with medicaid. I'm a bundle of grrrrrr. My anxiety disorders prevent me from doing a lot of things, and honestly making phone calls gets harder and harder the more times you are told no. So after a bunch of times I quit and it gets harder to try the next time but I do. .

I honestly wouldn't have posted this question, if I could get in to see someone. Because this is new for me it was kinda freaking me out

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EGad! For me that would be a death cocktail. So let try to understand... You just moved to a high altitude and the docs put you on 3 new meds at once? Effexor can cause weird sudden drops in blood pressure and carries high cardiovascular risks! Trazadone and Vistarial are both used in hospitals as generally prescribed sleep aids, so being on both seems kinda redundant unless Trazadone is actually an effective antidepressant for you... They also both effect blood pressure! Plus they both carry risks of respiratory depression! All three combined puts you at high fall and severe dehydration risks... High altitudes can similarly effect your cardiovascular and respiratory systems... I won't even start about my feeling on neurontin (cuz this post would be at least 3xs as long) Do you have chronic high blood pressure that is not already treated medically? I'm not trying to scare you, I'm honestly just concerned if your docs considered, weighed, and informed you how this combo may effect you physically and if you don't have a GP there yet....are they/ you or anyone monitoring your blood pressure? O2? Creatine and ketones? I'm glad to hear that your mood overall has improved, that is a good sign! but the fact that you are having bad mood swings daily , suddenly, and at random times of day could be related to the physical side effects, possibly. You did mention they kept you longer than usual in ward, which hopefully was to make sure that your major physical systems were remaining or reregulating to steady and stable... But that is in a controlled environment... Outside..schedules, eating, sleep fluctuates more. It is just the nature of outside variables and chaos.. Hope you are doing ok and PLEASE HYDRATE! For Serious. I know your not itching to go back to hospital esp one that you had a bad experience at. but if you are really feeling wonky at least go to the nearest urgent care and get a work up. In the meantime, it might be helpful to keep a daily health journal. Maybe you will be able to find correlation between the fluctuations in mood as related to physical symptoms, schedule stress changes calorie fluid intake etc. I have done this in the past and have found it extremely helpful to figuring out and identifying if I am in someway causing the mood flux or if the Meds need tweaking... Hope this is helpful sorry if I got a bit preachy there.
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EGad! For me that would be a death cocktail. So let try to understand... You just moved to a high altitude and the docs put you on 3 new meds at once?Effexor can cause weird sudden drops in blood pressure and carries high cardiovascular risks! Trazadone and Vistarial are both used in hospitals as generally prescribed sleep aids, so being on both seems kinda redundant unless Trazadone is actually an effective antidepressant for you... They also both effect blood pressure! Plus they both carry risks of respiratory depression! All three combined puts you at high fall and severe dehydration risks... High altitudes can similarly effect your cardiovascular and respiratory systems... I won't even start about my feeling on neurontin (cuz this post would be at least 3xs as long) Do you have chronic high blood pressure that is not already treated medically? I'm not trying to scare you, I'm honestly just concerned if your docs considered, weighed, and informed you how this combo may effect you physically and if you don't have a GP there yet....are they/ you or anyone monitoring your blood pressure? O2? Creatine and ketones? I'm glad to hear that your mood overall has improved, that is a good sign! but the fact that you are having bad mood swings daily , suddenly, and at random times of day could be related to the physical side effects, possibly. You did mention they kept you longer than usual in ward, which hopefully was to make sure that your major physical systems were remaining or reregulating to steady and stable... But that is in a controlled environment... Outside..schedules, eating, sleep fluctuates more. It is just the nature of outside variables and chaos.. Hope you are doing ok and PLEASE HYDRATE! For Serious. I know your not itching to go back to hospital esp one that you had a bad experience at. but if you are really feeling wonky at least go to the nearest urgent care and get a work up. In the meantime, it might be helpful to keep a daily health journal. Maybe you will be able to find correlation between the fluctuations in mood as related to physical symptoms, schedule stress changes calorie fluid intake etc. I have done this in the past and have found it extremely helpful to figuring out and identifying if I am in someway causing the mood flux or if the Meds need tweaking... Hope this is helpful sorry if I got a bit preachy there.
actually I was not on meds at all when I went in. Hadn't been for a few years. I had taken trazadone in the past. They gave it for sleep, as I hadn't slept more than 1-2 hours a night if that. So they originally just put me on the visteril and trazadone at bed and visteril as needed for anxiety. Then they put me on serquel after I told them not to. So they saw why and took me off that and two days later put me on Effexor and neurontin. I'm kinda upset about it now because I've always had low blood pressure. Even when in labor with my children it never reached above 132. I never noticed a change with the altitude but that could be because of so many emotions I was going through just because of the move. And no they didn't say anything that's why I posted this. Because I'm having trouble even finding a regular primary doctor out here. Thank you! You were not preachy at all. I thank you so very much!

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Agree on effects on RX and need for communication , diary ,and speaking up for the sake of your mind/body connection. Been there also and by the time I figured out that effexorvwas not part of my picture, getting off was like being a junkie on withdrawals - horrid! So , please be good to yourself and your future and realize medication is there to help you and yet is only as good as the correct "recipe". A suggestion- one way you might want to consider is the library - either visiting or volunteering. It is quiet, it eases you back into the world but limits your exposure to forced people interaction yet allows you to begin somewhere and going onc a week for a day you could either find a bus, a cab or catch a ridev. Just a though to consider. Always a community program that is very low cost as well generally.... Hoping for you to already be having better days...
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Agree on effects on RX and need for communication , diary ,and speaking up for the sake of your mind/body connection. Been there also and by the time I figured out that effexorvwas not part of my picture, getting off was like being a junkie on withdrawals - horrid! So , please be good to yourself and your future and realize medication is there to help you and yet is only as good as the correct "recipe". A suggestion- one way you might want to consider is the library - either visiting or volunteering. It is quiet, it eases you back into the world but limits your exposure to forced people interaction yet allows you to begin somewhere and going onc a week for a day you could either find a bus, a cab or catch a ridev. Just a though to consider. Always a community program that is very low cost as well generally.... Hoping for you to already be having better days...
Thank you, I've been going to the library, one I've been trying to get all the info I can, and 2 it's being around people without the anxiety feeling. Honestly I think the Effexor is working, I think it's the neurontin that is not really helping with the mood swings

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Thank you, I've been going to the library, one I've been trying to get all the info I can, and 2 it's being around people without the anxiety feeling. Honestly I think the Effexor is working, I think it's the neurontin that is not really helping with the mood swings

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Glad to read you are feeling better. I agree with everyone's suggestions,mood journal was key for me-many yrs ago because they kept trying so many meds combos,and just kept telling me-it's med side effects,give it few weeks,you will adjust...that was bull s@$!. Finalky,side eccects so bad,went to ER-they were like yes,this is out of control,you are right/wrong meds for you!so I'm hoping you can find gp or pdoc who will listen about your meds/moods,etc! Def write it down,along with sleep/foods/activitiez/people-so you can see if was med or possible triggers...
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Glad to read you are feeling better. I agree with everyone's suggestions,mood journal was key for me-many yrs ago because they kept trying so many meds combos,and just kept telling me-it's med side effects,give it few weeks,you will adjust...that was bull s@$!. Finalky,side eccects so bad,went to ER-they were like yes,this is out of control,you are right/wrong meds for you!so I'm hoping you can find gp or pdoc who will listen about your meds/moods,etc! Def write it down,along with sleep/foods/activitiez/people-so you can see if was med or possible triggers...
I finally got a pcp. She is great. She is also pretty concerned about the mood swings. She gave me some pointers to discuss with the pdoc that I finally see today. She increased the Effexor for me as it was the only med she was willing to adjust on her own as well as had me stop taking the trazadone for bed due to having nightmares as well as waking up every couple hours. Now I just wake up every couple hours. I realize now, that the Effexor kinda makes me hypo manic, cause this happened back when I got the first increase. I'm not going to lie, I kinda like it because I get a lot done, but I'm also irritable and need to keep busy as to not say something that I will regret. But I know that will go away. I'm more impressed with the benefits of it than the negatives. My pcp does not think I should be taking visteril as needed for anxiety, not neurontin for mood. So I will discuss that with pdoc today. I will also take a screen shot of my mood tracker, as I've been forgetting to do my Journaling. So did your meds ever get straightened out, I mean is your cocktail correct now? Thank you for your advice.

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Yes,my meds were adjusted ,fixed about 15 yrs ago!have been very stable on same meds for yrs,just have had tweak doses up/down,occasionally add anxiety med whn life very stressful. I love my pdoc,really listens and believes what I say. Sooooo glad you have great md

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