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Old Jul 05, 2018, 07:59 AM
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I am left wondering whether you had difficulties in your engineering careers because of your mental illness (also memory issues) or not?

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Old Jul 05, 2018, 08:15 AM
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The problems the ex H had in his engineering career was mostly from his ASD & adult ADD. Mine ended up being burnout from stress trying to handle everything that he was incapable of & holding down my career that demanded 60/ 70 hours a week.

My memory issues were stress related because when I got away from the stress my memory is fine.

Some MI's are long term built up from situations, others are genetic & some are both. If the MI goes away when out of the situation with good therapy it is an indicatikn the issue was totally situational. If meds are still needed tobkeep the balance once out of a situation it's pretty much that genetics was part of the MI too. Obviously if there is MI without a situation or illegal drug induced then it is most probable a genitic thing or something possibly caused in the birth process.
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Old Jul 05, 2018, 08:19 AM
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I agree with your explanation of memory loss. It can also be due to an injury. My doctors say my memory is fine, and I certainly hope it is.
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Old Jul 05, 2018, 08:58 AM
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Yes, I know several people who have had TBI's. Their recall can be totally impaired or slowed down drastically & can be at a loss for the word they are trying to use. Their memory is fine, it's the processing part that struggles. They have had to adjust the kind of work they do....anytging that requires fast thinking & reaction time has become a problem & can no longer be accomplished. That is one reason it is important to be aware of our limitations & accet them once they are known.

Sometimes until we try things we don't know what our actual limitations are
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Old Jul 05, 2018, 09:03 AM
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I understand your concerns, but there are so many specialties and I won't be the same after 6 years of MBBS and 3 years of M.D/M.S respectively. There would be new treatments available, me getting away from toxic environment since the first day I got admitted in med school, and I choosing a specialty that requires what I am capable of doing would be pretty nice combination. As long as I am competent, I think it should be fine. It's not an obsession, it's a hope. If I do get in med school, I will be away from toxic environment I have been in for whole my life. How's that?
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Old Jul 05, 2018, 09:10 AM
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Like I said....one has to try. Limitations only show up IF THET EXIST when one tries. If one never tries, one is ALWAYS LIMITED by not trying.

BUT if limitations do exists & show up when trying it is important to accept & deal with them by making necessary adjustments in one's plans & goals.
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Old Jul 05, 2018, 09:17 AM
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My limitations are actually non-existent, I believe. I just have to stop dissociating. I need to focus, concentrate and practice. Then I'll get the pleasure to practice.
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Old Jul 05, 2018, 10:30 AM
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With dissociation thete are usually triggers & being aware of the triggers is key & that takes therapy. It is not like day dreaming where your focus goes off. One's mind actually leaves to somewhere else not just loss of focus. My psycholigust said it is a coping skill we learned to protect ourselves. As we become aware of the triggers & learn new coping skills, dissociation can lessen. I had more trouble with depersonaluzation where it was like I was watching myself in a movie but in the extreme, they are our mind's response to triggers. Normal dissociation is like when driving & you don't remember how you got from one point on the highway to the next.....but that is not the dissociation that is a response to triggers, usually related to trauma.....which takes time & good therapy to work through.
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Old Jul 05, 2018, 10:43 AM
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My psychiatrist doesn't give me therapy... BUT if I move out this year to med school hostel, I'll figure out it's a pretty good first step.
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What do you think, eskielover?
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Old Jul 05, 2018, 11:53 AM
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I think when you pass the test then you will know what you will be able to do. Otherwise can you still move out when you go to the univ as a back up plan?
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I am already in a B.S program, we're going to have lectures started soon, but the hostel of my college isn't well-kept to be honest. I also do not feel secure there, and the classmates are pretty brutal, would pretty much kill me if I piss them off. So my only escape plan that is viable is med school. I will either get in med school, or die trying. And the instant I get selected, I am gonna focus on being a good medical student, not just passing the classes.

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Old Jul 06, 2018, 07:32 AM
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Been following along your thread here and I have to say I think it's awesome that you're not giving up on your dream. I'm rooting for you.
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Thanks a lot. That means a lot to me. It's that I want my dream to be fulfilled. It may not be a perfect job, but it's damn close to someone like me. What we need is awareness, of diseases that can kill people who are affected by it, as well as kill others or ruin their lives. A man who gets a head injury isn't the only one affected by the injury, but he has psychologically and physically affected people around him. If he's the sole breadwinner of a family, what about his young children, who will feed them?


Especially mental illness. Getting into med school or being good at life in general would have been very easy for me if I were born to sane parents. My parents are unfortunately mentally disabled, they've their own demons. They led me not having proper brain development, leading me to be socially awkward. I don't know in detail nor I do know if it's permanent or not, but as I everyday deal with people's awkward looks and classmates' hostile laughter. It's my duty to lead others who are suffering from mental illness have a better life. Medicine seems perfect for that. I am not interested in legal matters neither I wish to take doctor-patient relationship to another level, but I want to believe I have a purpose in life. Which is to make other people's lives better.
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Old Jul 12, 2018, 03:28 PM
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It is possible,
I was born in a severely dysfunctional family, so dysfunctional I was misdiagnosed as having autism when I was a child and as a teen too because my development was extremelly damaged. Right now I am a fourth-year pharm student, I am having hospital practices.
Pharmacy is not the same as Medicine, but both are very demanding career, and working in hospitals require of social abilities.

It's not easy, but it is possible.
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I am glad you found out a career you like. I was as well as considering going to pharmacy but didn't (and instead enrolled in a B.Sc course) due to my anxiety. Here in India we don't have pharmacists working in hospitals or clinics. I am trying to go a step back and enroll in MBBS, but I have no idea what fate holds for me.
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Your question is a reflection of my own at the moment, Lonely Chemist. I struggle with depression and anxieties, I would like be a counselor, but do not know if it is something I am honestly capable of.

I have a read a number of your posts and find them rather well-written, charming and delightful. Have you considered perhaps taking a creative path with medical knowledge? Though it isn't the same as saving a life in the E.R., storytelling has a great ability to heal.
Earthlove there are programs called consumer/provider programs in which people with mental illness are able to become counselors. Of course there is a process where students are judged on their ability to pay attention etc. I have been through such a program and it was the best thing I ever did. Give it a try.
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The lonely chemist....I still believe in you . Your desire is so great, I think that you have a very good chance. Your desire to heal is the most important positive attribute.
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Old Aug 13, 2018, 12:38 AM
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Calla, I have decided to ONCE AGAIN try to be a doctor... I think I need to succeed to make things better.
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Calla, I have decided to ONCE AGAIN try to be a doctor... I think I need to succeed to make things better.
Wonderful! I'll live out my vocation vicariously, through you .
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Thanks for encouraging me. If there's one person that can lead me out of this situation, it's me. I'd need to carefully prepare for the medical entrance exam, get admitted in a government medical college, and then everything'll go fine.
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There are severely mentally ill people who are doctors. They sometimes do things that are not acceptable and are punished by law for their actions. One doctor with bipolar who was a gynecologist branded women with his signature on their bellies after a C-section. His lawyer said he had Pick's disease with Alzheimer's but in reality he has bipolar disorder. He had his license suspended. I don't think all severely mentally ill doctors break the law but some have to quit because their illnesses interfere with their work. For example, Debbie Thomas the Olympic champion who has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder made it through residency and had a practice. However, she made too many professional mistakes and it cost her. She lost her license to practice medicine. I think it is very difficult to practice medicine with a severe mental illness. I myself have gone through medical school and graduated but did not make it through residency. This was due to my inability to perform because of my mental illness which had become very severe from lack of medication compliance. I was extremely happy to have left the medical field because I knew myself I was not suitable and not motivated in doing it. Having a severe mental illness interferes with one's good judgment which is critical in making decisions as a doctor. I would not discourage those who have a severe mental illness from becoming doctors if they are motivated and suitable for such a profession. However, there are too many examples of doctors with severe mental illness who err in judgment and take actions that are not considered very professional as a result end up harming their patients and themselves at times. The suicide rate for doctors is already high. To compound the stress one undergoes to become a doctor with a severe mental illness is a formula for a tragedy waiting to happen sometimes. People who go to medical school are not as compassionate as you may think. Some are in medicine solely for the money it makes. I met some a-holes there who were as compassionate as John Wayne Gacy. You should not believe that all who go into the medical field are in it to save people's lives. There are all kinds of people who go into medicine. Some are decent while others are not. The best doctors are also not the nicest either. There are some really mean doctors who work hard to be the best doctors. I'd rather have someone who is knowledgeable and works hard to be on top of their specialty to be my doctor rather than someone who is just nice and does not know what they are doing. Being a good doctor is hard work. A doctor who is nice and capable is hard to find these days unfortunately. Getting back to your point, there are doctors with severe mental illness. Those who are competent continue to practice while those who don't, don't make it. It is the same for all other health professions. There are severely mentally ill nurses, physician assistants, dentists, etc. They all need to be licensed and be able to perform their duties in spite of their illnesses. If they can't fulfill their duties, then they can no longer work in their profession. In a nutshell, the question is whether or not it is worth the risk of becoming a doctor given that one has a severe mental illness? I think this is up to the individual and his/her capabilities. Some doctors with severe mental illness may actually be good doctors. It depends on their decision-making ability and performance in the end. I had a psychiatrist who had Asperger's syndrome and he was quite good. He never told me about his illness but his twitches and lack of emotions made me realize he was not an ordinary person or doctor. He was very good but not a very nice person. He was very aloof but knowledgeable. I did not like him as a person but knew he was well-informed and had done his research. He was a Harvard medical school graduate. I give credit to all Harvard medical school graduates by the way. All of the doctors from Harvard are in a class by themselves. They are the best in their field and deserve respect. I have met several Harvard graduates and they have been the best doctors I have encountered. Anyways, I apologize for my ramblings.

Good post. I can relate, as a retired/fired RD/Nutritionist. I was getting help for my Depression and ADHD, but the nursing home where I worked had too many problems, new owners who micromanaged,etc. I got fired for a professional mistake during a health dept inspection. I tried college for another career, but chemistry did me in. After 8 years I haven't worked full-time since.
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I am sorry for you, chrisozzie.
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Old Aug 16, 2018, 12:56 PM
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Well I think there are many mentally ill doctors and if they dont start that way they may end up that way. They work incredibly long hours and deal with lots of stress.

I am settling for just trying to be a healthy influence on the world. A sort of life doctor. Many people on this forum may have directly or indirectly saxed lives with the support you give others. When we are good and kind and are responsible we are way ahead of many others who dont see or understand who they are let alone are able to change to make the world better. We all may not be doctors but we can be healers by being good people and helping others. Keeping a person alive is wonderful but changing the world? Thats really amazing as it effects everything and everyone. Im just going with the flow of my life. There are things I cant do but im trusting this path in life is going to be terrific
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Old Aug 17, 2018, 03:01 AM
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I am not sure about my the mental health of doctors in my region. The medical education here seems less rigorous, although I am not completely sure.

I want to be a doctor just not to be a good person but as well as make a living out of something I do enjoy (not just from emotional point of view, intellectual as well) but I got a lot of problems. Positivity should help.

Basically my parents are crazy and they control my life, I am not a normal teenager. They don't even allow me to hang out with friends, or even let relatives visit me. "Bad influence." I am a bit too tired of this, so I am going to try to get admission in a medical college, and live at the hostel in there.

It's that the human body and organic compounds like drug fascinate me. I may not be smart enough to fully understand what I am learning (thank you, parents....) but at least it's better than working as a high school teacher or a manager. And I'd be better at my job than as a teacher or a manager.
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