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Old Feb 20, 2012, 10:18 AM
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What kind of person is one that is so good at lying, even when you know they are lying, that you get drawn in and even believe them, even tho you know what they are saying is a flat out lie.....

Not that I'm that gullable that I believe what anyone tells me.. Never met anyone like this before...SO just wondering what kind of person is this? One that is soo good at lying, that I guess they might even believe their own lies? And you don't come to your senses until they leave your presence.

ANYone ever meet anyone like that? AND what type of personality is this?

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Old Feb 20, 2012, 10:32 AM
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I always thought there were many reasons people lied to avoid the truth so they can: avoid getting caught at something, for protection, to make themselves feel more important, to make things more interesting, to see if they can get away with it, they may be lying to themselves, etc. Depends on the person, their past, what they've learned, and the circumstances seems to vary for the reason. I don't know about personality type but there seem to be a lot of factors.

It drives me nuts and if I catch it in time, taking into the circumstances, I will vary how I will call them them out on it now a days as I have no patience for this. If I don't realize it until later, depending on the relationship, it can be discussed later. Otherwise I keep it in mind in dealing with them in the future and pay closer attention then.

It is frustrating to say the least. I am sorry to hear you are dealing with someone that cannot be forthcoming. Word of caution though, not everyone wants to face the truth and can be very hostile when confronted with it. If this is someone important to you, it could be well worth talking to them when they do this that as honest as you are with them you'd expect the same in return moving forward.
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Old Feb 20, 2012, 10:43 AM
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While I can't tell you what kind of personality that might be, I definitely have met people like that before, and it's difficult when you're the one who is being lied to. Recently I went through an experience where I knew the person was a liar, but was in a way held captive by what they said to me, and chose to believe that maybe they weren't lying. If someone is an expert liar, it really does have that kind of effect on you.

I don't know if this is a certain personality as much as a learned behavior, or maybe a defense mechanism. People may lie to protect themselves, or in some cases for personal gain. There are many different types of people like this, and they lie for different reasons. But I think the important thing here is first learning to weed them out and protect yourself from them, before you trust them.
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Old Feb 20, 2012, 10:47 AM
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It's an OCD thing, I think--compulsive lying. Observing it at work, I'd say yes, they do seem to believe what they say. At some level at least.

Just my observations. Not schooled in this.
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Old Feb 22, 2012, 09:08 AM
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Fresia.. For me to confront this person with her lies would only cause bigger problems. Her parents are aware of what she is and has been doing, so let them deal with it. Unfortuantely she is AJ's problem..

Yesterdays .. Good point to weed them from one's life. Is exactly what I am going to do.. Keep very limited contact with her..

Roadie...Compulsive lying... I was going to read up on this so I could maybe get a better understanding of this person, " she is in my son's life" but decided it wasn't worth my efforts. I'm tired of the worry.. Time will tell....

Guess we will just have to wait and see what the end results of her lies in the next 4 months...Is too draining on me and I have to let go..... Very difficult dealing with liars...

THanks everyone...
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Old Feb 22, 2012, 04:55 PM
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Radio flyer, my gut reaction to your personality question and lying popped up "Casey Anthony". Sorry this person is causing you so much stress.

I like your idea of limiting your time with this person. It is her problem, but it is also that ripple effect that 'gets you'. I have a person in my life that I dearly love who sometimes 'remembers' things differently than I do, and tends to 'embelish' the story to make it sound better. i know it is a lie, but it isn't one that is meant to hurt others. Just a boastful sort of thing. I can live with that. Maybe we all do those kinds of lies sometimes. That is human.

Chronic lying for one's own gain isn't and does cause others damage, distrust, fear and wanting not to spend time with them.
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Old Feb 22, 2012, 05:00 PM
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I hear a lot of mental disorders can cause compulsive/pathological lying. I had a roommate like this. She is ADHD and clams she's autistic.
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