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Old Oct 03, 2012, 11:04 AM
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In my view, if you follow such a philosophy then what are the thoughts regarding the reverse of such a statement? I would simply retort with; does that mean that i owe the world nothing then? After all it seems a bit of a vague, nondescript thing to say. I think phrases like these are best taken with a pinch of salt and sometimes tact goes a long way - if you treat people with respect and compassion surely such phrases wouldn't be important anyway? As long as you know you are a good person who cares what others think?

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Old Oct 04, 2012, 02:34 AM
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I don't understand that.
Obligations as in the context of the orginal post are voluntary in that I can chose to undertake them or not. I am obligated to perform certain duties to my employer, as my employer is obligated to pay me. Those obligations exist because of a mutal voluntary agreement. I can walk off the job if I want to do so, I just know that taking that action negates my employer's obligation to pay me.

I obligated by the laws of this society, I can choose to obey them or not and suffer the consequences as proscribed in said laws. If I do not agree with our social contract, I can renounce my citizenship and sign up for another social contract elsewhere etc...

Point being is that only I as an adult decide what obligations I undertake and what obligations I will not, knowing my decisions will have differing outcomes. Choosing to participate in a society is voluntary unless you are living in a repressive dictatorship with mined and walled borders.
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Old Oct 04, 2012, 04:37 AM
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I go to anti-war demonstration. I donate money for African children. I volunteered with refugees. Most of the souvenirs I bought on my travels were because I felt sorry for the refugee (in Italy) or old lady (in Ukraine or Albania) selling them and felt they might use my euros better then me.

So I kinda love people abstractivelly.

but to invite them into my life... breathing is not enough. They have to have passion, intelligence, spark. SOmething. Is it that much more selfish than "I don't watch news because it makes me depressed?". Talking about weather and men and shallow fluff drains me. I will respect the people (or at least not disrespect them out loud, unless they are too far gone. Worry not it goes mostly for politicians and famous for being famous celebs), but I am not gonna pretend to love them. Because I really love a lot... but I prefer to focus my love
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there are different kinds of love. When you say you love people abstractly, I think you mean agape love, the kind of love one has
for his/her fellow human beings. But you protect yoursef and are selective about who comes into you inner circle of friends and loved ones because it is sacred to you. I respect that.
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