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#26
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thanks for the advice and your past experiences. The thing is though, that even though you might say that it wasn't fun, or worth experiencing, you still have the right to talk about it, and use it in conversation. you HAVE the experience. You don't ever have to do it again, but you still have the experience. That is what I want. But it's just a matter of whether it's worth losing my sanity. but I have a question. When people around me are talking about psychedelics or ask me if I have ever done them, what should I say? How should I react? That is what I feel I need the most help with.
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Well, you could ask them why they are interested in whether you have or not. Or say, "No, I haven't" and explain that it's not something that you need to try to know what it's like. You have heard plenty of stories after all! I don't think you even need to justify why you haven't. Or you can lie, like I suspect some of these people do.
I obviously get worked up over this issue. I honestly think trying drugs is not a smart move, especially if anyone has a history of mental health issues anyway. I don't know if you do or not, but it's just not a wise thing to do. Good grief, I have had enough struggles with legal, prescribed medications! Okay, I have said my piece. ![]() ![]() |
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yeah I guess I don't really need to explain myself. maybe it's a confidence issue, that I fear I'm not interesting. Cause I mean that's the only reason I feel I need to take these drugs, is so that people will still think I'm interesting. And I'm 21 and a virgin, so I know how that feels. For a guy in college? yeah it's pretty uncomfortable to be around sex all the time, and not have anything to say about it, or try your best to avoid the subject. And I'm just going to put it out there, and say something probably controversial, but I think all the safe sex, free condoms, consensual sex is awesome! talk you hear around campus does in fact promote sex. I'm not arguing against it, I think sex positivity is very important, but I still think it does promote and encourage people to have sex, because it imposes the idea that having sex at our age is normal, and that if we aren't having it, then we aren't normal, or being a part of the group. I personally feel it alienates those who aren't sexually active, or who have certain disabilities, mental, emotional or whatever. just my opinion though. feel free to disagree.
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Hello rolan,
I agree with PAYNE1 about the acid questions. That topic really bothers me, as I'm also a person on many different medications and have had countless dangerous side effects as well. I applaud you for being afraid to try acid & strongly encourage you NOT to give in to your anxiety about wanting to fit in. It is a huge struggle in life that almost all of us go through ~ some of us earlier (some later) than others. You know what's important to you, and KUDOS to you!! ![]() ![]() Regarding your discomfort about active sex education...that is tricky. I can understand your discomfort with the subject being discussed and encouraged so openly, since you're in the minority, but IMO the education is really important. These topics really do need to be discussed openly at young ages for a large variety of reasons: protection from disease; prevention of unwanted pregnancy; acceptance of oneself sexually; learning about proper boundaries and respecting others. These are huge topics that follow human beings throughout our lives. I believe that human beings cannot learn too much about these subjects because they are THAT important. If you're attending a large college, you may want to do a survey of some kind to check out interest in starting a support group for people in similar circumstances or with similar interests. It sounds, to me, as though you would benefit quite a bit from getting to know a few other people at your school that are more like you. Or, if you're interested in music or art, join one of those groups. Point is: sounds like you've got a bit too much time on your hands, and you are spending that time worrying about fitting in with others, to make the time go by more comfortably. Very best wishes to you ~ take care!
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I don't know... I guess maybe for some it's so they seem enlightened. Or maybe it's just so you might be able to understand what sort of place they were in when whatever thoughts they're discussing with you came from. Maybe? I have met those people who seem to think they're better than people how don't trip. That's always seemed stupid to me. No one's better or worse simply based on their ingestion of anything.
I've done LSD. I've done mushrooms. I've done some other psychedelics. I've seen some pretty horrible freak-outs, and I've had some pretty amazing times. For me it can be an extremely theraputic thing: I can look at myself, my problems, and my thoughts from a different point of view than I otherwise could. It doesn't make me smarter than people who haven't done psychedelics, but it's a tool that works for me, personally. I can take things away from a good or bad experience after it's over, and come out feeling refreshed, and just lighter. I don't mean that to sound like I think I'm 'enlightened', or anything, so hopefully it didn't. It's something that works for me. It might not work for other people. That's fine. If someone wanted to open up a conversation about that with me, I'd be happy to have it, but I'm not going to go interjecting it in to anywhere, because I a)realize how it can change a person's perception of me(good or bad, unwarranted or not), and b)probably isn't something they care about if they aren't asking. I don't need to go telling everyone I've done it, and I feel no need to try to convince other people to try it. I get your frustration. I don't understand it either. /shrug |
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#31
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correction: disabilities, mental, emotional, or whatever that inhibit someone from having sex.
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Real acid?
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In my opinion, take acid. If you really want to. But the thing is... it doesn't sound like a good enough reason. Most people take it as a spur of stupidity of the moment kind of thing. This sounds planned out. And only because you want to fit in. You shouldn't do something just because everyone is doing it! Aren't you unique? Aren't you an individual? Do it because you want to do it and not because you feel like you should, or somehow you aren't worthy just because you haven't done acid. (What a weird sentence that was to write, lol).
I'm certainly not trying to "preach". I guess, maybe you could share a list of pros and cons on here as to why you'd do it and see what everyone else says? That could be interesting, and possibly provide some more useful feedback on this thread. I'm pretty open-minded. To drop acid, or not drop acid, that is the question.
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ahhhh that was such an awful experience... just had dinner with a friend, who from what I remember had never done drugs before, and now just kept talking about how she tried acid and shrooms at burning man, and I basically just sat there at dinner for an hour while she and her friend talked about tripping. I went dead silent. I only smiled forced uncomfortable smiles. I said nothing. I was so uncomftorable and anxious. I lost my appetite immediately and just wanted to leave. I just didn't want to hear these things, about how she now sees everything more clearly. I know I shouldn't think this, she has every right to do these things, it's her choice. but I just have no idea what to say in these conversations. I just kept looking at my phone, trying to avoid being asked if I had ever done psychdelelics. I'm just not ready to take them yet!! yet I can't escape talk about it. now after hearing about her doing it, I seriously think everyone of my friends and people I know in college has done psychedelics. even on a school trip I went on over the weekend, for student government, just kept hearing the board of finance rep talk about driving while tripping. I know this sounds stupid, and I shouldn't give in to peer pressure, but just the environment I live in here, I can't escape it. I keep trying and trying but I can't.
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If all your peers were jumping off a bridge would you feel compelled to jump too?
Admittedly, I don't get it, I've hung out with druggies, drunkards and everything inbetween from my early teens to early adulthood and never felt pressured to do what they do. When I finally did want to experiment with something, it had nothing to do with peers or pressure, it was pure curiosity because I didn't even have druggie friends at that point in time. Idk why I've never experienced peer pressure, maybe its because I've always had a solid sense of self and don't seek that type of validation, idk. What I do know is that you are making a huge deal about something that is essentially irrelevant. Think about it, will this matter in 5 yrs? Will you sit on your deathbed regretful that you never dropped acid? 10 yrs later and it doesn't matter whether I experimented that 1 night or not. It didn't change anything in my life. It doesn't and never did hold any type of weight or value. You're driving yourself nuts because you can't even handle other people talking about it. Seems like everytime you post your resolve is weaker, not stronger, so instead of being tormented for however long you still have left at college... Trip your balls off already and get it over with. |
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I agree with Trippin2.0 (lol about the name and this thread coincidence)
Maybe you're getting so anxious about this because you're not feeling fulfilled in your life? Until you have a more secure sense of self, maybe you'll never be satisfied hearing about other people's experiences because you need more of your own. Maybe it's not necessarily dropping acid, but like.. travelling to Asia or parachuting or something that you need to do! you're getting nervous because you feel like you have nothing to contribute.. you could go on your own journey and find something to contribute!
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Drugs don't add anything to life. You won't contribute anything by tripping.
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