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#51
Dec 04, 2016, 02:11 PM
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Dec 04, 2016, 02:14 PM
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#53
Dec 04, 2016, 02:38 PM
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Christmas and the holidays are such a depressing time for so many. I can understand the various reasons people don't like the Holiday. If I didn't have kids I think my husband and I wouldn't celebrate it. We'd probably make up our own Holiday instead (Probably like Festivus or something). But some people LIVE for Christmas.
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Dec 04, 2016, 06:47 PM
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Nammu …Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. …... Desiderata Max Ehrmann |
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| *Laurie*, lizardlady, venusss
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Dec 04, 2016, 08:04 PM
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#56
Dec 04, 2016, 08:05 PM
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I don't think anyone is acting like a victim. They are just expressing the way they feel. Don't understand why people can't just be supportive
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| nonightowl
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#57
Dec 05, 2016, 03:30 AM
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#58
Dec 05, 2016, 09:27 AM
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Regarding gift giving, all I can afford is a token gift for each of my two adult children. Others will have to make do with a holiday greeting card. If they have their noses out of joint then too bad - they are missing the whole point of the holiday.
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Dec 05, 2016, 02:57 PM
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I take back everything I wrote about Christmas.
 getting ready to freak just a tad here. I just learned through my mother that my sister wants to drop in around the holidays.  I am going to look up a definition for 'drop in' before I figure out if this is freak out worthy or not
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| Nammu, nonightowl
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Dec 05, 2016, 03:07 PM
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#61
Dec 05, 2016, 03:11 PM
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That sounds to me like one or possibly two cups of coffee or eggnog followed by a "Thank you very much for asking, but no, I must be running along" if invited to stay for dinner. |
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Dec 05, 2016, 03:20 PM
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The Christmas "blues" thing...I experienced it while I was in college, having been abandoned by my first love. It was heartbreaking, really. Not only an emotional, but a physical pain. Since then, I've been pretty much immune to Christmas sentimentality.
That said, my Christmases as a child, in the little church in which I grew up, were magical. We had a Christmas play, packed presents for the unfortunate in our neighborhood, went out carroling in the snow. All our thoughts were kind. |
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#63
Dec 05, 2016, 05:17 PM
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Music is loud, I agree but unless you work st the store I don't see where else do you hear it? Christmas decorations are different here, depends on where you look. Some sure might be not of my taste but unless it's in my house what do I care. Most certainly no one is required to take loans and overeating is strictly a choice. I am totally puzzled why any of it is even a concern in a long scheme of things. Imho Last edited by divine1966; Dec 05, 2016 at 06:16 PM. |
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Dec 05, 2016, 10:38 PM
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Christmas has always been my favorite time of year. In my church, it is about more than the just one day. We prepare during the Advent season and really the season doesn't end until Epiphany. I grew up in a musical family, so tied in with the season was a great deal of musical preparation and performance with choirs and family (my family often sings together during Christmas). I perform now with two different choirs, so a great deal of time is spent in honoring the season spiritually, musically, and a bit secularly. Our gift giving has always been fairly modest within my immediate family (and at this point is mostly about really thoughtful gifts that have lasting meaning) and probably as much is spent in charitable giving, particularly in support of children that attend the school (and feeder schools) I teach in.
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Dec 06, 2016, 12:01 AM
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I was just walking through a Walmart the other day and just out of curiosity I went down isle after isle in the holiday section just going "Geez, I never saw so much Christmas stuff in my entire life than here", and then I said to myself all this is seems like only "money", "money" and more "money" that's all they care about.
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Dec 06, 2016, 03:02 AM
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Store where I work has been playing Christmas songs over over a month on a loop - I try to zone out but it's hard.
What I notice in my colleagues is it's the ones who have least materially making the biggest deal out of spending and celebrating - like it lifts them out of poverty once a year. |
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Dec 06, 2016, 05:43 AM
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Divine,we are allowed to rant and whine... if you ban ranting and whinning 80 percent of internet would disappear.
As for the volunteering things... it gets discouraging even from s strangers. And christmas decor can be eyesore. It is funny how some find it shocking when people dont like things they are 'supposed' to like. They are either acting like victims or its symptom of MI.
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Dec 06, 2016, 06:31 AM
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when 18 and the family Christmas came along, i was well into mental illness and didn't like all the happiness that my whole family thought Christmas was, we all arrive at my mother's house and i would sneak out to the pub up the road to get a few drinks into me before i could face it. Years to come my self-medicating near killed me with acute pancreatitis and a life-saving operation , 6 hours operation and half my gut took away,
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Dec 06, 2016, 07:10 AM
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Will probably either be spending alone or working this Christmas. There is so much hype and expense just for one day. So much pressure to be part of the ideal family Christmas xx
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Dec 06, 2016, 07:57 AM
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I just didn't understand concept of holidays or other people's fault in whatever choices we make. When I overspend (and I do it a lot!) or overeat, it's no ones fault but mine. I don't think one "supposed" to like anything. There are plenty of things I dislike. I just don't see the point of being upset if others like it especially since we have a choice of not participating. I think when people struggle (I do at times too and especially did in my younger years) with making our own decisions regardless what others tell us or when people can't say no or feel easily pressured into things, it's something to maybe address in therapy. As I got older I worry much less about what others want to do snd only do what's right for me and my loved ones as long as no one gets harmed. Good luck! |
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Dec 06, 2016, 08:16 AM
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So I now have to address my dislike for kitschy cheesey music and tacky decorations in therapy?
I think I will just continue snark at them and use the money I would spend on therapy on something else. Apparently, I am not the only one who does not find this season the happiest of them all. And it's okay. I don't struggle with making my own decision, so being annoyed at tacky reindeer and blasting Jiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinmgleeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Beeeeeeeeeeeeeellssssssssssssssssss is my own reaction and decision. It's not fault of the Holiday. Jesus never said: "overspend, overeat and get upset over Starbucks cups..." Look, I expressed I don't get Christmas and several people seem to be quite suprised at the fact, trying to find faul in my (i am depressed, victim mentality, need to address in therapy). Imagine if somebody made thread they don't like chocolate. almost scared of the outrage that i would bring.
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#72
Dec 06, 2016, 11:40 AM
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I just felt you weren't simply disliking Christmas but were pretty upset or angry about the whole thing. Does not seem worth it for me. There are holidays I don't care for, they aren't even on my radar. But I don't feel pressure at all and don't care if others enjoy it or can't control themselves and go broke. I am out of the thread. Just expressed my opinion but don't want to upset anyone.Happy holidays! |
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Dec 06, 2016, 12:04 PM
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I usually talk in ranty and snarky way, that is my way of talking. I prefer it to "saccharine" talk and cliche upon cliche, chicken soup for soul way of speaking.
That is mere personality trait. Search for "rant" on youtube and there will be plenty rants about much more random and lesser things.
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Dec 06, 2016, 03:46 PM
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Christmas really bugs me but I don't think it is a reason to go to therapy!
What is that supposed to do? Make me a copy of everyone else? Actually... I already HAD that therapy... was forced once to participate in normalizing therapy 2 days a week a full year and they were full days! They forced me to cook and eat things I hated and made me fat and they forced me to celebrate Christmas. They failed!! I'm still a freak!!! 
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#75
Dec 06, 2016, 04:07 PM
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Let it be (or not) to each person or family whatever it might be (or not) and then let everyone simply flip the calendar to the next day. |
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