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Old Jun 14, 2008, 08:53 PM
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An older man I know calls anyone who cares about the environment "tree huggers." I finally thought of a comeback, but I have yet to use it.

Car huggers. Anyone else?

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Old Jun 15, 2008, 07:11 AM
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not too bad Doh! nicer than a few things ive wanted to call rude and obnoxious people What you wished you'd said
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Old Jun 15, 2008, 07:52 AM
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Oil huggers?
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Old Jun 15, 2008, 08:24 AM
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in most instances ive been happy when i didnt say the first thing that comes to mind.. i view conflict in a strange way (who's surprised?)

its like the plates of the earth scraping.. the Earth reforms around the new positions and eventually settles..

the moment of conflict is the moment of creation...

nature is haphazard but also efficient...

its a challenge for me as a human to manage the conflict with the least damage and the most growth...

that takes some thought... sometimes the first thing outta my mouth isnt always the smartest, for me or others..

geez its taken me a long time to learn this!

taking a 'so am i, but what are you?' approach to conflict is the haphazard way in my view...

i know you most likely have thought about this for some times Doh...

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Old Jun 15, 2008, 08:56 AM
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How bout extinct...

Sadly,

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Old Jun 16, 2008, 04:19 PM
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 06:11 PM
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LOL Doh,

How about broke?
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 06:30 PM
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lol. did you see that comerical about green houses and the tree gets up, crosses the road, looks at the house all over then gives it a big hug? and the farmers are watching it and one says "house huggers". then the tree pats the house on the roof.

too cute.
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Very well said! Bravo NTR!!
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Old Jun 17, 2008, 08:31 AM
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hey Tim What you wished you'd said

maybe this is my last comment, one never knows..

i wish i hadnt impulsively decided in my original post that Dohs' aquaintance is rude and obnoxious.. that was my assumption and it isnt necessarily correct.... (dang!)

maybe they use the term 'tree-hugger' endearingly? and this older gentleman is related or even a leader in the so named 'tree hugger movement'? i should get more info before i jump to assumptions about others...
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Old Jun 17, 2008, 12:32 PM
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(((NTR)))

Shouldn't we all???

Thank you.

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Old Jun 17, 2008, 02:29 PM
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Actually NTR, your instincts were right on. My father in law uses this expression passive aggressively so I can't respond. He usually throws it out there when I'm passionate about some environmental cause. He says "they," but we both know he means "you."

I wasn't going to muddy the issue with particulars, but it helps to put it into context. Now I suppose this should move to relationships.

I just thought that would be a good comeback since he loves his cars. I don't think I'll ever use it, but I imagine it.

There's just this weird power struggle between us. I'm often shocked into silence by the rude things he says.

Anyone remember, "Well the jerk store called...?"
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Old Jun 17, 2008, 05:59 PM
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To a young lady I was afraid to talk to long ago,

If I could just have a moment, to gaze into your eyes, hold you near, tell you that your countenance is beauty beyond any definable measure of man,

That your your voice rings with a melody that cannot be replicated at the hands of even the most crafted muscian

That I would give my last breath to have you close to me, and with my dying gaze and its fading light look just once more reaching out and connecting to your soul, to feel your essence, to fall into thy wonderous grace,

My heart aches to touch thee but once, my eternal light

But thanks to my Avoidant personalty disorder, I couldn't and we never met oh well such is my strange little life

take care TJ
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Old Jun 18, 2008, 01:44 PM
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TJ, that's so amazingly sweet and sad and funny all at the same time. There once was a guy in one of my classes that I so wanted to meet. I tried to talk to him, but I was too shy. On the last day of class, I wanted to give him my phone number, but just couldn't.

After class I felt awful. He had the same teacher as I, only later, so I gave the teacher the note and asked him to deliver it.

So about a week later, I get this call. The guy says that at first he thought I had written my student number under my note thanking him for help with a paper. Then he realized it was my phone number.

Now he's my husband. We are both so shy that it is a miracle we ever met.
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Old Jun 18, 2008, 02:00 PM
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i did my best ... i'm sorry, if that's not good enough there's nothing more i can say or do .....

to someone i hurt ..... not on purpose .....

but still they're hurting me to this day What you wished you'd said

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Old Jun 19, 2008, 10:23 AM
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Old Jun 20, 2008, 02:30 PM
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Doh2007 said:
Actually NTR, your instincts were right on. My father in law uses this expression passive aggressively so I can't respond. He usually throws it out there when I'm passionate about some environmental cause. He says "they," but we both know he means "you."

I wasn't going to muddy the issue with particulars, but it helps to put it into context. Now I suppose this should move to relationships.

I just thought that would be a good comeback since he loves his cars. I don't think I'll ever use it, but I imagine it.

There's just this weird power struggle between us. I'm often shocked into silence by the rude things he says.

Anyone remember, "Well the jerk store called...?"

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i have friends who live in an area where 'the environmentalists' are causing a roadblock to their means of support.. and i am from a town famous for its environmentalist interests, so, worlds collide...

i sit and listen with them.. they matter, they listen carefully as i explain my thoughts.. we dont agree, thats impossible... but we still try to find understanding... i am so hopeful that we will, cause if we dont, for sure, one group or the other is going to be unhappy for a long time...
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Old Jun 20, 2008, 04:30 PM
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An older man I know calls anyone who cares about the environment "tree huggers." I finally thought of a comeback, but I have yet to use it.

Car huggers. Anyone else?

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((doh))
I have been a environmentalists for along time.....

Due to where I grew up made me more aware....

well very aware.....

Tree hugger has never been one i was called.....much worse in fact...

Do i wish i said something more?
at times yes?
others no?

Would i do everything i did the same....maybe..........
sometimes there is time to say what you need too
I guess I said it all at the time
hope this made sense
I was always peaceful thou.......
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Old Jun 20, 2008, 04:41 PM
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these guys get mad, they yell, jump up and down, some people have been hurt over it... when a persons means of income is taken, its disturbing.... most all have moved on, the little town they lived in is suffering... some have found new work but they want their former lifestyles back...

the government made their choice for them.. 'the trees' were more important.... they are still fighting thru it, they still might succeed...

i can understand why they are angry, i wish they could have their way of life too, they are good people... but i would still choose environmentalism
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Old Jun 20, 2008, 04:50 PM
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yes, we have to balance the needs of employment, homes, and "lifestyle" and yet maintaining and respecting and enjoying OUR earth......

very sympathetic....
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Old Jun 20, 2008, 06:49 PM
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i am a self confessed tree hugger ....i went to see Nick Drakes grave on the way down south yesterday and hes buried under a tree and i hugged the tree cos i feel he is part of it .... i love trees, they say so much, they 'know' so much, i amso angry ecause someone cut a beautiful cherry lossom down fono reason, it was so estalished and lovely, and2 oaks havebeen knocked down tomake way for several ostentatious houses just up the roadfrom me ....grrrrrrrr What you wished you'd said

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Old Jun 20, 2008, 07:54 PM
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(((((Doh2007 ))))))))
WHen I think of enviromental ((prolly spelled wrong sorry))))
I think of where i grew up.....
I guess I my thoughts do not go right to trees...its goes beyond that...
((please not saying anyone is wrong ,,,,,, i was sorry))))))))))

Growing up where i did so many lost thier jobs of course.....
they had to ...the companys had to go....
My Dad lost his. My grandfather was transfered. Everyone I knew thier life changed.
But everyone I knew almost was getting cancer too.......or other illnesses...........
Kids were born with defects, Ld.you name it......tons of miscarrages...endless.......
Houses were boarded up..fences put up....areas closed......
The area still suffers because of lack of jobs....
But nothing compares to the cancer rate......
Sorry Doh I do not think this is what you meant........by treehugger
enviromental always makes me think.....................
please forgive me.......
muffy

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to the ppl who did it
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 01:28 PM
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Regardless of our beliefs, I think using a pejorative expression that creates a stereotype is wrong. It precludes a reasonable discussion of the issues.
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 03:33 PM
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personally i like being a tree hugger .... right or wrong .... sorry if this offends ....

as far as i'm concerned it has a lot to do with environmental issues, fighting for what you believe in etc .... i see what you mean about people generalising, but i like the term 'treehugger'.

Jinny What you wished you'd said sorry if i've been too dumb to reply properly or gone off topic .... i care about all aspect of the environment

Kerry x
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