[Daphnelover]

anyone here struggle with it?

[Jamie21]

i have this i really struggle with blasphemous thoughts all the time
think am going to hell

[r731]

Would you please tell me what has happened to you?

OK, I don't want to make things worse, neither to challenge your beliefs:
But do you people honestly think that a benevolent god full of wisdom would punish somebody with unwelcome thoughts, or OCD?

I don't think scrupulosity necessarily means it stems only from religious beliefs. I thought it was going over and over things to create a 'perfect' that can never really be achieved. I believe in God and it leans more towards love than punishment.

[Daphnelover]

"Would you please tell me what has happened to you?

OK, I don't want to make things worse, neither to challenge your beliefs:
But do you people honestly think that a benevolent god full of wisdom would punish somebody with unwelcome thoughts, or OCD?"

I'm not sure if you're addressing me, but I am a Christian and have OCD in my secular life in the form of pathological doubt and checking. It attacked my faith almost a year ago and has not let up. I understand that God is merciful and will not punish someone for a disorder. I wish it were that simple. My themes have ranged from not being saved because of a lack of trust/faith, to not having accepted salvation, to having accepted salvation, but since then leaving it, to not being saved because I'm a smoker and may have unforgiveness in my heart. I hate it. I feel like the only thing that matters has been taken away from me. At least I finally have a diagnosis and have started therapy.
I'm fully aware that this is a problem with me and not with God. I just don't know how to convince myself that it's okay to just let go and relax and accept His love, but that's the only thing I want out of this life.

[Jamie21]

My OCD if i read the bible and then my minds says something blasphemous to me i start thinking about then there are other bad thoughts
My OCD Makes me look at a subject obsessively and put doubts in my mind about religion i have gone from Christian- Pagan- Christian - Islam -Christan - at the moment am obsessed about Buddhism because i was looking at meditation and mindfulness to help with my OCD it made it worse
but av found out about christian meditation and mindfulness

this helps i watched it earlier and am not obsessing about Buddhism and am starting obsessed about Jesus again
am trying to focus on him

If anyone needs to talk am around
this is hard having OCD but this is like torture when you believe one thing and your mind is making believe something else
I also hear voices that tell me to do it as well on top of it

[r731]

Correct me if I'm wrong: HOCD has a similar pattern to your scrupulosity. Once you stop considering homosexuality as something foreign and accept it, then HOCD fades away. To attack HOCD is to notice homosexual people by some means. So, to attack scrupulosity is to notice some agnostics, atheists, and pagans: to make the idea of the absence of faith not seem dangerous.

[ScientiaOmnisEst]

Is there even such thing as non-religious scrupulosity?

If so, I might have experienced it. Unless I don't actually have a form of OCD. But for me, a scrupulosity lookalike is simply a concern with principles, with being right and good in a more philosophical, secular sense. I'm not concerned about a god punishing me - I'm concerned about being a bad person in the more colloquially moral sense, or being looked down on by better people. Of being "wrong", selfish, unthinking, etc.

Maybe there are other secularists who have experienced this.