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Ok. My husband is out of he hospital. His general doctor's name is Dr. F. his Gatro doc's name is Dr. A. and the nurse that we mostly dealt with at the time was Nurse M. Well they got their wires all crossed with my husband's illness. Dr. A. did a ct scan of hy husband's internal organs in his abdomin. And also alot of blood work. Well he cam ein on Friday and told us that my husband had an infection in his intsetines and that what was causeing all of his symptoms. So on Saturday when he was released we thought he would be sent home with anti biotics and his usual Crohn's meds. Well he was'nt sent home with anything. The discharge sheet had no diagnoses on it and listed his pain rating as 2 when he told the nurse it was 7 out of 10. An hour before he was dicharged he had told nurse M. he was'nt feeling good and had been having dirriah and vomiting since Friday afternoon. I did'nt understand why his gp had let him out w/o anti biotics. So I called him. He told me the nurse had told him that my husband had said he was feeling much better and ready to go home and that Dr. A. said he had no infection and his blood work was fine. And that he was'nt going to cal him in any anti biotics. And well he go smart with me and told me a bunch of crap then told me to bring my husband in his office to be checked out. I told him, that we would come to his office but only to pick up our med records for our new doctor. And he hung up on me. The nurse said she did'nt even talk to him. And Dr. Ahmed refuses to speak with us. I am very angry aobut this. If my husband does have an intestinal infection, it could kill him. But Dr. F.(gp) refuses do anything. Right befor we left he had the nerve to smack my husband right on the abdomin twice!!! I brought this up to him and he said well I don't belive your usband has Crohn's so it would'nt have hurt him. WTF?!?! I then told him he had been diagnosed by 2 Gastros (one of them is ranked no.2 in Kentucky as te best) and 3 gp's. He ent on to say that my husband had been misdiagnosed and HE had he right diagnoses. I asked him what it was and he just hung up. I am livid at the uncaring and unprofessionalism of this doctor. I want to report him but I don't know how. But if I ever find out.... I don't know. My husband is still sick he can't eat. Or hardley get of the couch. And this stupid ***** doctor don't care

Thunderbear, I'm so sorry this happened. Doctors can be such -- well, it's unprintable. I don't know how you go about filing a complaint or whatever, but with all you have to deal with, maybe you should just focus on moving forward with your husband's treatment -- but that's for you to decide. All I can do is hope that things get better for you in the coming week.

(((((((((((((((((Thunderbear)))))))))))))))))

They should have a DR.'s board just like they do a nursing board. I would report him. What an a-hole.

to report a doctors conduct you can report him to the state board of medicine (state medical board) and or to the agency of health care administration for your state...i have included a link..hope this helps..good luck...............

(http://www.mdnationwide.org/choose_a_doctor.htm)

using the same link you can also do a background check on your existing physician

Thunderbear,

Here's a link for filing a grievance against the doctor:

http://kbml.ky.gov/grievances.htm

Is there somewhere else you can take your husband? With the vomiting, etc. he needs attention. Crohn's is nothing to screw with. I'm so sorry this is happening.

I myself would get my husband in to see some one ( new dcotor ) right away. You can go after your old doctor later. Your husband sound pretty sick - he comes first, after you. You have to take care of you to help him. Good luck - keep us posted. Hugs to all.

Very good advice from everyone T-bear
Both of you are in my thoughts and prayers .
Your husband needs proper medical attention ASAP.
Take care .........

I agree you should report the doctor later and just focus on getting your husband the right medical attention. I don't think you you've been treated fairly and it's very rude for a doctor to hang up on you. I hope your husband gets the help he needs and feel bad that you had to deal with doctore like this.

Thanks Vickie. He is still very sick. His stomach is distended and he is having really bad pain going from his stomach through to his chest and shoulder. He can't even walk upright. I have been begging him to go to the ER in the other town where they know him and his condition. But he won't listen. He's being stubborn. He said he spent 3 days in a hospital and he don't want to go back. I don't know what else to do other than manhandel him to the ER. He's just being so dam hardheaded about going. I don't know what else to do

You may have to call someone to come to him. 911 or what ever. You are there with him. You have to make the choice. I know I have friend with some problems where he just passes out and hits the ground. He told me not to call anyone untill I see blood coming from his mouth. He is in so much pain but he gets through it after 15 to 20 minutes. He has been to the hospital for his condition in the past so I have to do as he wants me to unless he stops breathing. I so wish you luck, I know that this sucks. Hugs for you and your husband.

Please take your husband to the ER if he is still feeling poorly...... ((( hugs )))

I can sympathize with you on this. My grandfather was in the hospital recently (got out several weeks ago) but while he was there, it was hectic dealing with the doctors. But I found that the problem usually wasn't with the doctors but rather with the nurses, as they would tell the doctor something that's complete nonsense and the doctor has faith in their nurses. So it's understandable when they continue on this incorrect path. When the patient and the family inform the doctor of the opposite occurring, then the doctor is left to decide who to believe, the nurses who he/she has worked with for a while or the random patient and their family.

However, a doctor hitting a patient is inexcusable. Writing no diagnosis and discharging the patient when the patient clearly is ill (i.e. vomiting) is also inexcusable. Some doctors are stuck-up because they have a M.D. and the patient and their family don't. You could either simply go on with life and try to get a different doctor or you could get a different doctor and file a complaint.

If you bring him back to the same hospital, then they're probably going to see he was in very recently. You may be able to get a different doctor and get it all sorted out. That happened to my family a few times, one doctor I thought was good but later on realized he wasn't and we had to rush my father (mind you we had to call the fire department because he's well over 320 lbs, wasn't sure where he was so you had to somehow try to restrain a man over 6ft3, over 320 lbs who is incredibly strong. After we got the fire department and paramedics over, we brought him back to the same hospital and demanded (I won't try to write the entire dialogue as it was fairly long and didn't have the nicest of words). Anyways, we got a different doctor and lo' and behold, that doctor was pretty fast on the diagnosis, gave him a few pills and said in about a week he should be fine. In 4 days he was completely better.

(((((Thunder & Husband)))))

I am a Critical Care Nurse....and a good one!!!

If your husbands abdomen is distended and he is experiencing nausea and/or vomiting with a history of Crohn's, he needs to be admitted to the ER for an eval now....sooner than ASAP. It could be that his Crohns is just extremely exacerbated right now, but these are also signs/symptoms of his bowels shutting down and if he has any fever, this could also be a sign of sepsis or bowel infarction.

The vomiting can lead to severe dehydration and throw off his chemicals like sodium, potassium, magnesium, and calcium which are all very dangerous things to mess with and could cause heart arrythmias which could be fatal.

If he is having chest pain with this, that is not good either. More than likely this chest pain is referred pain from his distended abdomen, but it needs to be checked out now.

My Nursing advice to you is get him to the ER. Do not let him eat or drink anything as this could cause him further discomfort and problems. He needs an eval by GOOD Doctors and Nurses and needs bowel rest and medication.

So what if he doesn't want to go. Call 911 and tell them he's having chest pain with nausea and vomiting and they will come and take him to the ER. Just because he's making sense doesn't mean he's thinking clearly. Take charge.

I'm sorry if this scares you but if this gets you to get him to the hospital then I'm kind of not. I have seen people who ignore symptoms like these die. I know that's harsh to say...but he needs to be in the hospital. This sort of crappy medical care just pisses me off. Make sure, once he's getting treatment that you write down each call you made, what was discussed, what time you called and what the issues and outcomes were. This will be important when/if you file a complaint. I'm really sorry for him and you for having to go through this. He should have never been discharged in that condition....period.

Please keep us posted.

Thanks depressedalaskan. He is feeling rough today. His stomach distension has went down a little, but he is in alot of pain. I am hoping he will go to the hosp. today. I think I am getting him talked into it slowly. I told him if t is'nt for anything but pain relief

Thank you so so much Elysium! Hubby is feeling crappy today but his stomach is'nt as distended as it was last night. Last night you could see the veins in his belly and it was hard like a pregnant womans belly. Today it's still swollen but not as hard. He has a knot where his Crohn's has caused his intestines to funnel (that's the only way i can describe what his intestines look like. Like an oil funnel) I am hoping the pain will make him go to the hospital. Yeah those docs piss me off too. I makes me feel like they only care about the money. So they keep him coming back in cause they know he's gonnahave pain and be sick so he has to go. And everytime he just signs in the insurance pays the $150 office visit. It's ridiculous when a doctor puts moneey before the patient.

He needs to go back to the ER.

Call 911 if he won't go...seriously. I totally agree with Elysium and what she says on this one.

This is worthy of general consideration...

Thunderbear, best wishes for a speedy and healthy resolution!

Thunder....

What you are describing....the intestines funneling, is called Intussusception. It is when one part of the intestines slides inside of another part, like closing a telescope.

This is dangerous and leads to death if not treated. SERIOUSLY!! Get him to the ER NOW!!

This leads into a bowel obstruction and can cut off oxygen to the bowels which then paralyzes them and leads to the bowels breaking down and basically decaying inside the body. He needs to have this reduced.

Nothing to eat or drink....Emergency Room NOW...Do not pass go...do not collect two hundred dollars.

PLEASE GO NOW!! This is life threatening!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intussu...ical_disorder)

Thanks Elysium I am trying so hard to get him to go to the ER. He's in ALOT of pain. I told him to at least go and get someting for the pain (I know they'll check him out if he goes) but he won't listen. I even just had him read your reply and the wiki link. He has all of those early syptoms. I don't think he grasps how serious this actually is. In all of the Crohn's papers and booklets his gastro gave him it talks about this as a side affect of Crohn's and how serious it is to get treatment. But he will not listen to me. He said he just wants to sit in his chair and watch T.V. and relax. Honestley I don't see how he is relaxing. He looks like hell because the pain is making him pale and drawn looking. He can't eat everytime he does he hurts so bad he just rolls into a ball. And I bet in the past week he's lost 5 pounds. He's afraid they'll admit him again. And because of this last week in the hospital he does'nt have a paycheck coming so our electric is due to be turned off tomarrow. So he's got all that worry on top of this illness. It makes me worried and mad at him at the same time for neglecting himself like that. I told him I would call the ambulance if I have to but EMS is'nt required to take someone to the hospital if they are'nt suicidal or a harm to others. I guess I'll have to knock him out and take him there (j/k) but that's what it feels like it's going to take. I don't know what to do with him. He's being childish.

What Elysium is saying is an EMERGENCY .
She's a nurse and is experienced in these things .
Please convince him T-bear . Ask him to do it for YOU.

This is dangerous and leads to death if not treated. SERIOUSLY!! Get him to the ER NOW!!

I agree. Get him in to see someone or call 911. hugs for your day.

Well I just got off of the phone with his gastro's nurse. She read the med chart from his hospital stay. The CT scan reavealed that he was having a Crohn's flare and had an intestinal infection. The gastro ordered the family doc, Dr. F. to give my husband IV anti biotics for the infection and steriods for his flare along with pain medication and potassiam cloride(?) for dehydration.And to send him home with a pred pac, steriods and pain medication Well the fam doc gave him the pain meds and fluids in the hospital but not the anti biotic and steriod. And he sent him home with nothing. So after I hung up with the gastro I called Dr. F. and told him what the nurse told me. He told me that Dr.A., who is a specailist in gastrointestional dieseses, was wrong about his dx of Crohn's and he did not have an infection. I cannot belive that he is still maintaining that!! Neither can the gastro. Dr. A. is furious that Dr. F. did'nt do anything to fight this infection and is still refusing to do so. So Dr. A. wants to see my husband this week and get another CT to look at his whole large intestines and treat the funnel problem. He seems to think for now my husband will be fine as far as that goes and he is calling in anti biotics, a pred pac and pain medication for him. He is going to file a complaint to the board about Dr.F. for not following through with treatment on my husband's infection and flare up. I have already sent for the papers to file a grievance on this doctor. I have all the records from the hospital, including the treatment plan from the gastro doc and the medications ordered and given. ANd the one's that were not given but was suppossed to be. I just cannot belive some doctors!!! Don't they know that short cutting like that can cost someone their life? Ridiculous

THUNDER.....

Ask your husband if he wants to DIE?

He is a danger to himself right now because he is not seeking treatment for an emergency medical issue which ultimately leads to a painful and miserable death.

You can file a grievance later!! Right now, your husband is in dire need of emergency care. The electric company should work with you. If they don't, there are programs that can help you get it back on. Would you rather live without electricity or without your husband?

Those Dr's are quacks and you need to take him to the Emergency Room NOW!! I'm not just saying this for fun. Think of how you will feel if he gets worse and something really bad happens and you didn't respond to him.

I have seen this before. I know a few cases where people ignored this type of issue and let it go because they didn't want to get admitted or they didn't have insurance. They ended up turning a 2-3 night stay in the hospital into a 3-6 month stay in the hospital and a couple died while the other had to have 90% of their intestines removed, eat from a tube the rest of their lives and crap out a bag that came out of their abdomen.

Your husband is scared and most likely in denial. Maybe you are too? You need to take control of this situation and get him the help if he won't do it for himself.

The reason his distention got better is because his bowels have shut down and are no longer making all the fluids and enzymes they are supposed to...which is what was leading to the distention. Once the bowels shut down and they slide into themselves like that, the bowel begins to strangulate on itself and it begins to die and become necrotic. Ultimately his bowel will split open causing his bowel contents and all the bacteria inside his bowels to pour into his abdominal cavity. He will become even more painful, and will become septic. Once he becomes septic he will go into shock. Once he goes into shock he will die.

Every minute he spends away from medical treatment is one step closer to death.

So yeah, ask him if he wants to die and what he'd like on his head stone.

PLEASE GET HIM HELP!!!!

I have been trying all day. Well since last night. I told him the same thing, "DO you want to put me and your son through the pain of that'? He just says "This is normal I swell like this at least twice a month" blah same old same old. I tried scaring him into going. I tried bribing him into going. He just won't. I talked to his gastro and he said he'll be fine according to the CT till Wendsday. If he starts passing blood or black tarry stools then take him to the ER. IDK, I tried everything. You would think the pain alone would send him running to the hospital. Yeah talked to the electric co. They said since I signed a contract back in winter, they could'nt give me an extension and Community Action does'nt have any funds to help. But I don't care we will find it somewhere. I just hate seeing my husband hurt. I might just drag him there tonight. He promised if the pain gets too much he'll go in. But i don't know if he's doing that to pacify me or what. Probably. Right now he's in the floor playing with our kid. He acts like he feels better but still, like you said. I might just have to start a fight with him to make him go. If that's what it takes I will.

I wish you and your family all the best and I hope he feels better. For his sake, I hope he gets treatment....

Take care