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Old Jun 08, 2011, 10:37 PM
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Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you're looking for someone/something to blame for your insecurity. Women and men, as a whole, vary in strengths and weaknesses. No gender is indisputably stronger or weaker than the next. The fact that you are depressed and unemployed has very little to do with the fact that you're a woman, and has a lot to do with situational circumstances. Hold your head up high, and treat yourself as you want to be treated. Realize that you are just as important, and just as strong as any other man out there.

We're the ones who have to shove babies out of our privates, after all.
That we are generally expected/seen by society to be mostly on earth for this very thing, and something is wrong with us if we don't want to, is a big part of why I resent being female. I do agree we can be strong though!
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Old Jun 11, 2011, 11:22 PM
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OP is experiencing the effects of both an environmental and internal response to the perception of her sex. Lots of research backs up the notion that inequality is still prominent, and some feminist psychoanalysts such as Jessica Benjamin assert that until men change the way they think about women in the homeplace, women will always be subordinated.

I think you would really benefit from exploring this issue further and reading into some feminist literature, and there are lots of excellent research studies on these concepts that have been done. Very profound stuff, and it may just give you some clarity and empower you.

Yes, I am a feminist (and male) and for some reason people seem to think that being a feminist (the 'f' word) is bad. I never understood that, because to me, feminism is about awareness and intention toward true equality. Nothing wrong with that at all. Its naysayers, in my personal experience, simply don't understand what feminism is. Ah, ain't ignorance bliss?

I completely understand why you would feel the way you do, and I hope you can learn more about how to empower yourself. Opportunities are there.
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Old Sep 11, 2011, 09:52 AM
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OP is experiencing the effects of both an environmental and internal response to the perception of her sex. Lots of research backs up the notion that inequality is still prominent, and some feminist psychoanalysts such as Jessica Benjamin assert that until men change the way they think about women in the homeplace, women will always be subordinated.
I'm actually a man, but it's weird how some people have assumed i was female.

Having some of the same feelings tonight, makes me really depressed at times. I feel I have to solve the problem and I don't think I ever will.
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Old Sep 11, 2011, 10:36 AM
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I guess a big one would be the shorter average life expectancy. I try to rationalise this by saying that it's partly due to poorer lifestyle (i.e. men probably more likely to smoke than women, or men more likely to work dangerous jobs (i.e. army, police) or the fact that young men will often die in high speed car crashes, or the fact that young men have higher suicide rates.

The concern I guess is that maybe male life expectancy will always be lower because of something innate in us.

So that's one way in which I worry about inferiority.

This may be true in the westernized countries, but let me assure you, poverty and poor access to medical care is the great equalizer in terms of life expectancy. It has been reported that, globally, women have a much rougher go of it than do men.

Even so, there is documented evidence that being female, for whatever reason, extends one's life under certain situations.

However, why would that immediately lead to a judgement about weakness or inferiority? It is a difference that is innate and biological. Men have more muscle mass than women, and a bigger lung capacity. Just because something is different doesn't mean worse.

Also FWIW, I do not buy that the media perpetuates such judgements. While it is clear that not all media outlets are "fair and balanced" as they would purport to be, it is the individual that ultimately decides their own fate.

If we are to be slaves to the the media, then it is a shackle that we put upon ourselves.
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Old Sep 11, 2011, 10:49 AM
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In more dour times, I remind myself I am the weakest link in my life.
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Old Sep 11, 2011, 07:28 PM
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Old Dec 17, 2011, 02:22 AM
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It happens a lot around exam time, with girls averaging higher than boys and also ahead in final year participation rates. This is when I start feeling weird.

I feel at this rate we'll be minorities pretty quickly, and the sad thing is that nothing is done about it.

Particularly at elementary school level, where boys start to fall behind, particularly in basic stuff like reading.
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Old Dec 17, 2011, 02:33 AM
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I agree with you, I have seen this coming for a long time now.
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Old Dec 17, 2011, 02:43 AM
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I agree with you, I have seen this coming for a long time now.
Are you agreeing with me so I'll shut up?

It's been going on for a while, I even knew about it when i was a kid, say 20 years ago, but it didn't bother me at all then. We all just knew that girls 'tried harder' in school. But now I wonder if there's more to it than that, and also why nothing seems to be being done about it, other than programs here and there, or gender-based education in some schools.
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