Non Professional Looking For Answers #2 ???

Thank you to everybody that responded to my question about over medication (Zombie) effect in human beings with mental illness. The following will clear up some misconceptions that people might have, the over use of question marks (?) is my fault and their is nothing to it's meaning other than my unusual use of it. I have not responded so far to the very good comments posted because I have to be very careful in what I say because people can misinterpret what I am looking for?

I was trying to find out -If- we could find an answer that would be acceptable to the vast majority of human beings with mental illness. This answer must be with little or no pain or suffering and suicide would not be an option if everything else fails and the Zombie effect saves the person with mental illness. All mental health treatment plans cause some form of pain and suffering and experimentation etc. what else can mental health clients do? What else can mental health clients do that does not mean a lifetime of antipsychotic drugs and experimentation etc.? Thank You!

Not being dead does not mean you are alive. What purpose is to keep the body "alive"/animated, when the soul/mind is not there? It does not mean the person was saved.

Also by doping up the person into zombie, no recovery can be done.

Your question is scary honestly.

It would be useful to me to know the question you seek to have answered.

Not feeling anything as a form of treatment sounds like what you are suggesting. Do you think you can isolate pain and suffering so that is not felt, but joy and happiness and contentment would be felt?

Relieving the permanent pain of mental health issues is done by going through the treatment, including the temporary pain that may come with treatment, and the by accepting needed antipsychotic medication. Choosing to be completely numb, to feel nothing, is what many people choose to do, and there are many ways to do that.

Mental health issues are personal and so is the treatment. A one-size-fits-all wouldn't work because we are all unique.

Say more about why you think treatment includes experimentation.
Maybe that is how you view that mental health treaters have options to choose from, and attempt to find the best fit for the client to provide the most help. I guess I would say there are many resources rather than it is experimentation, like there are many medications for physical ailmnents and one might work better for a patient than another.

I work with a T who works under a massage T license because her methods are not accepted here in the US. She provides amazing healing with almost no pain. The only times I am uncomfortable are when I can't accept her for who she is and start expecting her to treat me as other therapists have. The actual healing is super easy and painless. BTW I have worked with her on PTSD, ASD, SAD, and depression.

On another note... When I have strep throat I am not in pain but I do notice my voice gets raspy and I can see the blotches on my throat. When the Dr puts me on an antibiotic my throat starts hurting until the strep is gone. Should the Dr then be putting me in a medically induced coma until the strep is gone so that I don't have to suffer?

"I was trying to find out -If- we could find an answer that would be acceptable to the vast majority of human beings with mental illness. This answer must be with little or no pain or suffering and suicide would not be an option if everything else fails and the Zombie effect saves the person with mental illness."
This BTW is contradictory and bad research. Take a research class. You are defining the preferred outcome and then seeking evidence that supports your outcome. No ethics committee would ever pass this if it even made it to them.

Life, with or with out mental health diagnosis, is not without pain.

I don't think for me anyway that any mental health treatment caused any pain or suffering. It was my Godsend. However, meds are not the total answer. We have to develop tools that help us cope with the meds... e.g. being around positive people; spiritual awareness, hobbies, therapists, whatever...eg. again...books, music, yoga, We have to make mental health our top priority and it is only with it being our focus that we can remain well

johnspeaks, reading your post makes me a little confused - I also would wonder if you could ask your question in a more clear way, so that we can better answer it.

Your post seems to focus around this. Are you unhappy with the options you have available to you? Are you feeling like the only option is medication, and "zombie effect", etc - is a loved one feeling this way?

From what I've seen there is no single answer that we could give to the vast majority, or there just wouldn't be so many people still struggling, these are my thoughts anyway. For some people medication just ... works. For others not so much. Some people just need therapy, some people .... (the list could go on forever for each individual who suffers with this type of illness). So I'm a bit unsure what you're looking for here.

Is there any way you could be more specific in your question?

being too doped up does NOT feel good. It is frustrating to both the patient and the patient's family/loved ones. Doping a human being up to that point is traumatic and irresponsible.

Hiya,

You should read Peter Breggin's work. He is pretty much anti meds and has some great work out there. I'm currently reading Toxic Psychiatry, The Anti-Depressant Fact Book, and Your Drug May Be Your Problem. All very good and informative.

Love and hugs,
Tara