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Old Dec 12, 2003, 06:17 PM
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Without boring any of you with the BS details, I've gotten my feelings hurt several times, gotten angry more than once, been hit with stuff at work that I don't begin to understand but it's mine now because so many people have quit, and I've been on hold waiting to talk to my back doctor for almost 35 minutes.

Is it OK for a grown man to cry? My Grandfather said no, but then again he beat me almost daily too, so he probably doesn't count.

Can I have a do-over?

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Old Dec 12, 2003, 06:28 PM
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bp sweetie, it is ok to cry, it sometimes helps to let the pain out, and you are NOT pathetic. If anyone was pathetic, it was your grandfather, grrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!! I'm befuddled.... I'm befuddled.... I'm befuddled.... I'm befuddled....

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Old Dec 12, 2003, 09:05 PM
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Old Dec 12, 2003, 09:25 PM
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Old Dec 12, 2003, 09:26 PM
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BP, your grandfather was full of CRAP!! ... and that's putting it nicely for me. Yes, it's okay for a grown man to cry! You're as human as a grown woman, for pity's sake!

And by the way... hang up that phone after two mintues and call again. If they put you on hold, hang up again and call again and give them what for! There's no excuse for keeping a person on hold for that long! I'm befuddled.... I'm befuddled.... I'm befuddled....

I get so stinkin' fed up with all the incompetency out there!

(Ok... deep breath here... In, 2, 3, 4 Hold, 2, 3, 4 Out, 2, 3, 4... whooooo) I'm befuddled.... Ok... I'm okay again... hehehe I'm befuddled....

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Old Dec 12, 2003, 10:01 PM
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BP my friend, (((((HUGS)))))

I am sure that everyone at sometime or another gets their feelings hurt, becomes angry - (Gessh - I do that just about everyday), and deal with "stuff" they don't particularly understand, or even want too (hey - sometimes it just doesn't pay to go there). Can I ever relate. Could we be brothers?

I never saw my grandfather cry either. Boy, was he ever a man among men! He was really tough - had to go to work at age 14 to support his mother, 3 sisters and 3 brothers when his father was killed in a mine accident on Christmas Day. To the day he died - he hated Christmas and it was never celebrated in his house. He was tough on everyone, but tougher onhimself. Looking back - I sure miss him. He was my greatest friend ever! He taught me manners, discilpine and how to drive - Boy did we have fun!

But we live in the modern world and I find no wrong in a man crying. In fact, although I prefer that no one ever had to, it touches my heart that a man can be man enough to cry and show he hurts too.

It shows character and that's something you've shown a lot of - even in the short time I've been here. You have nothing less than my respect and admiration - something you've earned and I feel fortunate to know you.

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Old Dec 12, 2003, 10:55 PM
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{{{BP}}} It's very ok ...and a damn shame most men don't know it...to cry. Its a natural emotional release and "Just because youre a man" shouldnt mean you it isnt ok. Cry whenever you need to, my friend...and as you can see there are many shoulders here open and available and willing .
Im so sorry youre feeling this way...cry if it helps...and even cry if it may not...it probably will
Your Garth loving friend always,
Jenn
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Old Dec 13, 2003, 07:27 AM
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I have big shoulders and you are more than welcome to rest your head on them and cry all you need and want to.

Show your emotions hun....cry, vent, yell and let it all out. There is no shame in this. Please don't call yourself pathetic I'm befuddled.... You are a wonderful man and I am so glad to call you my friend.

I am always here for you. I'm befuddled....

I'm befuddled....
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Old Dec 13, 2003, 10:55 AM
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Sam,

I really don't know what to say...What a wonderful compliment to have paid to you. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for that, and consider my self very fortunate to have you as my friend as well. I'm very glad that you are part of my extended family.

Interesting that we should both have a Grandfather that had such an impact on our lives. I'm glad that yours seems to have had one in a positive way. Mine did have his good points I do suppose, he was a good provider for his family, and treated the women in the family very well. I suppose I'll never know why he chose to do the things he did to me. I guess the important thing is that I continue to work hard to move past that, and never let that experience affect the way I treat my children.

Perhaps we are brothers, twins separated at birth? Wouldn't that be a kick? Again, thanks Sam. To be thought of in this way is really an honor.

All my best,
bp

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Old Dec 13, 2003, 11:12 AM
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Dears Bear, Willow, Tomi, Bugg, Ozzie, Jenn, and Heather,

Thank you so much for your kindness and understanding. People have asked me what it is that I get from coming here. I tell it's the support and inconditional love. But for me, there's also an X factor. Things will happen in my life that hurt me, and I try to explain my feelings to my family and friends, but even though they give me hugs and say they understand, I can tell that they really don't. When I come here, and I'm hurting, and I tell all of you what's going on, because we all share a common bond, I know that when I tell you how I feel you will understand me, even when I don't make much sense. Which I know is much of the time. It's in that understanding that I find great comfort.

I'm feeling better today, much. I just had one of those days where I felt picked on, misunderstood, and felt like no one cared, except for you. Thank you so much for that. You're all so important to me.

My love to all,
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Old Dec 13, 2003, 06:27 PM
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You are just as important to us too ..... doesn't it feel good to know how loved you are? I am getting all mushy inside. I'm befuddled....

I'm befuddled....
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Old Dec 13, 2003, 06:30 PM
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BP,

It felt good to tell you what I thought ... and felt. It's always a great thing to tell someone something that is good and positive and with you - it was so easy. I'm glad to be a part of your extended family.

When I reflect back upon the people in my family - my grandfather and grandmother were my greatest friends and role models. Both had very positive impacts on my life, although I feel I've let them both down, I am now working hard to change that.

I'm sorry your grandfather wasn't what he should have been for you. I do think, however, mine would be proud of who you are.

Sam (who would be honored to be your brother)

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Old Dec 13, 2003, 06:32 PM
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{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{bp}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}I'm befuddled....

I feel sort of fuzzy when I read your posts. I hope the people in your 3D world appreciate how wonderful you are (even if they don't always understand you...) .... like we do!!!! I am always here for you, hun, and am honoured to be your friend!!!!

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P.S. I'm befuddled.... to anyone who might not... or who plays games etc..... they are "fools" I'm befuddled....

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