Is there no place on the entire internet where someone can go to talk about feelings of suicide? It seems like you can talk about anything you want on the www as long as you don't mention the fraction' "S"-word!

Doesn't anyone ever need to talk about this? God, its so depressing its enough to make you want to shove a sharp blade quickly into you gut!

Yeah, its me, do whatever the hell you want with me, this time. What does it really matter.

[TheDragon]

It doesn't seem to be a popular topic for the general public. It's something people prefer to speak about amongst private company. Seems to be the way it is, for better or worse. Personally, it's a subject I rather share with those close to me rather than in public anyways, but it really depends what about it you want to talk about.

[eskielover]

It's ok to talk about the feelings & what is causing you to feel that way....just not the plans & the fact that you are going to do it.

Talk away about your what is causing you to have those feelings. When I was there, I didn't really know what was causing me to feel that way....just knew that when stress hit, those feelings hit & I didn't have any skills to change the direction of those feelings.....not sure at that point in my life I really wanted to change them either.....but I did live through that horrible period of my life & I can't believe the wonderful life I have ended up with....major changes I had to make in my life & thank heavens for a divorce that I am finally getting. LIfe can be better than we ever imagine especially when we are feeling so horrible.

Talk through the causes of your feelings & also figure out some things that you can do that will take your mind away from it like watching a funny movie (even if you don't feel like doing it) or working on a craft project, or taking a walk....I didn't know this but when you exercise, your mind can't focus on 2 things at the same time.....so it provides a distraction....time passes & sometimes so does the thing that was causing us the distress. Life is never easy.....that we just have to accept....but we can also accept that we can make it through the bad times also & that there really will be better things in the future.

[costello]

Originally Posted by fleeingbellocq

Is there no place on the entire internet where someone can go to talk about feelings of suicide?

Tough subject. We've discussed it a bit on the sz and psychosis forum. There's a Madness Radio interview on the topic: http://www.madnessradio.net/madness-...ngs-david-webb

How common are suicidal feelings? Is a psychiatric illness behind suicidal despair -- or a meaningful and even spiritual life crisis? Does forced hospitalization really provide help? Suicide attempt survivor David Webb, author of Thinking About Suicide: Contemplating and Comprehending the Urge to Die, discusses how speaking openly about suicidal feelings, rather than reacting with panic and fear, is the best form of suicide prevention. http://www.jungcircle.com/DWebb.html http://thinkingaboutsuicide.org/

[-jimi-]

In the past, there were many sites allowing it. These days, not so much. I'm old school and where I chat elsewhere almost any topic is allowed. Unfortunately those places are going out of style, and the less people show up, the smaller the chats become until they implode. I think Google rating has a lot to do with it. Before, a small chat room had a chance to show up on a search, now it is almost impossible to get a good listing. People will not find you, and everything will die down, while big sites just keep getting bigger.

I accept and follow the rules when I'm here, but I won't have to like them.

it anoys me too.

i did at 1 point suggest a suicide section on here. but nope...

We live in a sue-happy society. It seems everyone wants to blame others for their problems. If they allowed open discussion about suicide and someone did it, they would be considered liable and would potentially be sued and closed down . Then, where would all of us be?

[Wren_]

i'm not sure there is really anywhere on or offline that will really let you talk about the thoughts or understand what it's like

[LiveThroughThis]

I've noticed lately suicide as a topic has come up alot in regards to teen bullying, etc.

I may be way off compass here, but it seems in that format, people are willing to look at it; maybe because someone else is in a way causing a child/teen to kill themselves. Certainly it needs to be addressed.

However, it seems that when suicide is discussed in terms of mental illness, people continue to inch away--or run--from it. I keep reminding myself less than 50 years ago people like us were confined to asylums and institutions out of ignorance/lack of education. It takes a long time for society as a whole to progress in any direction, especially mental illness, it seems.

Just my thoughts.

[eskielover]

My understanding of the topic of suicde is that one can talk about the feelings they are struggling with.....talking about what's behind those feelings is definitely ok.......what they are making sure doesn't happen is that someone come on here & says they are going to do it then leaves in a place no one can do anything about it.....& it's like with the ED & anorexia forum......were we don't talk numbers.....there is no discussing how in terms of suicide....but if you want to talk about the issues that are surrounding what is causing those feelings.....there is NOTHING wrong with that......from my understanding.

[Odee]

I think that not having the chance too talk about suicide can be really frustrating. For people who experience suicidal thoughts it's tormenting to keep it to yourself. Even when you're not presently suicidal, suicide is such an intense topic! There's a lot to be said and felt about its existence, implications, and how close very many individuals are to the topic.

I understand that no one should ever have to experience suicidal thoughts but at the same time for people who can't help it the taboo of suicide only intensifies the shame and despair. To a degree I think the mentally ill needs to have a chance to understand these thoughts and talk about them -- without letting the talking lead them closer to doing.

I guess it's something we just have to work out by ourselves and with trusted few others.

[costello]

Originally Posted by eskielover

My understanding of the topic of suicde is that one can talk about the feelings they are struggling with.....talking about what's behind those feelings is definitely ok.......what they are making sure doesn't happen is that someone come on here & says they are going to do it then leaves in a place no one can do anything about it.....& it's like with the ED & anorexia forum......were we don't talk numbers.....there is no discussing how in terms of suicide....but if you want to talk about the issues that are surrounding what is causing those feelings.....there is NOTHING wrong with that......from my understanding.

I believe Eskie is correct. Btw I listened to that Madness Radio interview again this morning. He made an interesting statement. He said that he couldn't think of a single public health issue which was made better by not talking about it.

[Onward2wards]

((((( fleeingbellocq )))))

I think there is both a direct fear of discussing it (social denial) and apprehension about triggering people and liability.

Yeah, its me, do whatever the hell you want with me, this time. What does it really matter.

It matters because you matter, and your quality of life matters. It is natural to want to live, and to live a better life too, not simply exist. I am glad you are reaching out too discuss your difficult feelings. The world would be a better place if we were all more open about things, imo.

[Mindinpieces]

Hi, thank you for posting this feelingbellocq,

This is just my thoughts although I am sure it touches on what most people think and have discussed before however I just wanted to get my comments out there, although my comments may not be like and I am just another person with an individual view point which may not be correct but it is what I think personally.

There have been many times like most and I am only guess here maybe even yourself have felt that way, and maybe like you, again guessing your thoughts here or that other humanly thing of assumption that us humans do so well, the unable to discuss those very thoughts sometimes just makes them worse. It can make yourself feel like because you think that way and as everyone else makes those thoughts appear not to be ok to talk about them. Sometimes this can make you feel you should go and do that very thing. Yet if this was a discussion of something else and someone kept it all bottle up then people would say that person should have let it out and not kept it to themselves, yet this very strong and serious pain and distress within itself is always kept between an individual mostly to themselves or professional help.

Like most people it is probably the thought that someone may see this as an encouragement not help because to talk about suicide itself may cause some people to see it as an ok thing to do, not that I am saying it is a wrong thing to do.. I am not saying that at all, many times I have wallowed in the very thoughts. Yet from some peoples prospective they may misconstrued it to be seen this way, how many times have people done something because it all over the news and everyone knows that everyone does it.. that type of thing is what I am pointing out here.

However I think sometimes talking suicide, from an understanding of the thoughts and feeling can be of help as like many things it is about self-reflecting on our life’s and experiences which can help us work through these thoughts or come to terms with them and help others, how may be there with the thoughts and just don’t know where to turn. Sometimes just seeing another person insight can be the very thing they need to be able to then view themselves within another view point which would have a positive effect not a negative effect.

If you just replaced the suicide with another word like anxiety or emotions and people where talking, as we all do here on the forums then it wouldn’t be a problem would it? Although, yes I can see the counter argument to this as actually it may be different as to the nature of comments and what people may be discussing. Which I think can be the big thing as to why this is just not allowed at the moment.

However if there was a leeway on the nature of how much or what was allowed to be discussed openly on the forums then I see no problem to this… how many forums on here have a can only mention this or that is not prohibited, why can’t it there be that self-refection or thought’s and feeling behind the suicide feeling/ intentions be discussed and not the very intentions themselves or past attempts.

One thing people don’t always think of is if a person is openly talking about these type of feeling then they are alive and at a point where they can be help but how many times has it got to the point where someone has killed themselves. Then people go why didn’t they talk about it or seek help, where could they have gone, that’s what.. sure there are professional help out there and sometimes for some people depending at the point in life that is the very help they need and are looking in the right place. But sometimes maybe if people had a place they could open up about their feelings, it would get to that point.

However again the problem may also be if someone was on an open forum and needed more help but couldn’t get that help from the forum. Then that as well may lead to their death as they may feel on one is there to help them, when actually the forum are just light hearted in the sense we are all here for the similar reason to seek help and gain help but with a sensitive topic like this it could equally go as wrong. I guess this is the main reason why it is not allowed because it can equally go in too extremes and no one want’s to feel they may have contributed to that not intentionally but we all are just at another end of a computer of some sort and totally unaware of the impact we may or may not cause to another viewer somewhere.

[Hellion]

yeah it gets bothersome, if you want you can talk to me about it though, I don't judge about feeling suicidal. I've felt that way for months, just been trying really hard to keep going hence the reason I am still here. But even so I don't see much point.

So anyways I kinda feel your pain if you want to talk to me go for it, I know there are not a lot of forum spaces to actually talk about suicide in anything but vauge terms without risking too much personal attack.

[whenwillitend]

There is such a support forum. It's not pro-suicide, but I didn't get the impression that that's what anyone was looking for.

Anyway, it's
www.suicideforum.com

It's an awesome community where everyone looks out for one another and newbies are taken in with open arms. You can also install a "panic button", it's a red button on the bottom right corner of your screen, and you can link it to any website you like. So when you don't want anyone to see what you're doing and someone is approaching, just click on it and it takes you to the designated website right away.

I'm really sorry so many of us are struggling with suicidal feelings.

Edited to add: It's not just for suicide topics, they have "regular" topics too, just like here. But there are two forums specifically for people who are in crisis, and for those who are suicidal. On the suicide forum website you can talk just about anything.

[sugahorse1]

I'm not one to judge...
Regarding your initial post - I too am very willing to talk to you in private if you wish.
However, I don't think your signature Is very appropriate ... I know it's off-topic. This is a supportive forum - not a business networking opportunity.

Mr, J,

I totally agree.

-Fleeing Bellocq

Originally Posted by VenusHalley

it actually was pretty funny.

Thanks, That is about the nicest thing anyone has said to me in a few years.

I've been wanting to know you.

Hello, I am,

-Fleeing Bellocq

[sabby]

A gentle reminder to all....please keep this thread on topic and refrain from unsupportive posting. This is a valid issue by the OP and judgement of this member is unsupportive.

Thank you,
sabby
Community Support Team

[Lauru]

You can go to www.suicideforum.com

It was listed in the depression forum under suicide resources. I have been there before. You can talk about it freely without discussing any methods. They are a pro life site, thank goodness, and will help you as best they can to see clearly enough to get the help you need. Great folks who are very supportive.

Oops, just realized this site was already suggested. You can find all of the suicide resources from DocJohn on the depression forum here: http://forums.psychcentral.com/showthread.php?t=37207

[Winter Moon]

You can talk about it here, depending on where you live. Though if you live outside the US it should work if you can figure out the time zones. But I'm not positive.

http://suicidepreventionlifeline.org...elineChat.aspx

It's basically like calling the hotline, but instead it's in a chat. For if you don't want to physically talk to a person. Hope this helps.

[sugahorse1]

How are you feeling?

Originally Posted by sugahorse1

How are you feeling?

SugarHorse,

Thank you very much for asking. I felt pretty horrible after the whole affair a few weeks ago. That was really hard for me.

I'm still doing about the same, but trying to hang in and act like a normal person. anyway, I just appreciate that you would enquire. I really needed that.

I don't know you, but I would like to hear how you are. If you need someone to talk to at this time, I would be glad to be someone that would listen.

Stop by my page and visit, if you'd like, and if not, please know that I really thank you for checking up on me.

Sincerely,

-Fleeing Bellocq

[sugahorse1]

Only a pleasure. I often land up in situations like you, and know the value of support. Right now is not a good patch for me, because I too am struggling