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In his blog, Dr. John Montgomery initially writes from an historical perspective to give the reader familiarity with "survival mode" and "evolutionary mismatch." Most of us already have some knowledge of these words of art.
Montgomery then brings into his discussion the influence of social isolation: One of our key design principles is that we’re built to be triggered into survival mode whenever our survival is perceived to be at significant risk. Survival mode, however, isn’t only an overt state of fear, or the primal terror of being torn apart by a jaguar or grizzly bear. Whenever we feel any kind of pain or emotional distress – whether it’s self-pity, for example, or guilt, or shame – we’re thrown, operationally, into a state of survival mode. Indeed, the biological reason that unpleasant emotions become triggered within us in the first place is to alert us that our survival may be at risk, and to motivate appropriate action to address that risk. When we have intense feelings of emotional pain during a breakup, for example, the feeling is telling us that a relationship that’s very important to us may soon be lost, and the pain is biologically designed, in a broad sense, to motivate behavior that may help us to preserve the relationship if we possibly can.What makes Dr. Montgomery's article significant to me follows: My colleague Todd Ritchey and I have suggested that an additional dynamic operating in nearly all of us can also profoundly reinforce unnecessary survival-mode states. A great deal of evidence from neuroscience studies suggests that the stress hormones released by survival-mode states like fear or anxiety have many of the same effects in the brain as addictive drugs like cocaine or methamphetamine. It’s been known for decades, for example, that an integral part of the stress response is the release of endorphin, which many studies have shown is the primary “pleasure” chemical in the brain – that is, whenever we feel pleasure or euphoria, the pleasurable feeling appears to be due largely to the release of endorphin within our brains. But because endorphin release is also involved in the stress response, any sort of stress or pain will also release endorphin into our brains. What Todd Ritchey and I have suggested is that while stress and pain are typically not consciously perceived as being pleasant, nearly all of us receive unconscious biochemical rewards from our pain and emotional distress, and nearly all of us consequently develop literal biochemical addictions to at least some of our painful, distressing, out-of-balance, survival-mode states.What do you think? Is depression reinforced by unconscious biochemical rewards? I do not know if this hypothesis will be proven viable. Even so, it may explain why change has been so difficult for me. |
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Interesting article di mel and I don't have an answer for your last questions but its interesting to ponder. I don't smoke, drink and never touched illegal drugs. I also eat well and exercise basically doing all the right things....but been through intense stress and hope this won't be my downfall. I want to live as long as I can to see my girls have children hopefully. What kept me going was operating on survival but not as its mentioned in the article. Mine came from sheer determination of not letting 2 toxic people ruin my life.
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Dear Di Meliora,
Goodmorning! Very interesting post. I would respond by saying yes. My reason for this would be we are humans and humans are creatures of habit. This is done in a state of being consious/unconsious of our actions. It does not matter if the action or behavior is healthy or not unfortunately. Doing the same thing or staying in the same state of mind gives us a false sense of safety which is addictive. We can choose to change our habits, behaviors, and our brains pathology. Deviation of the way we think and create a new normal thought process out of depression and anxiety. This may cause that primal fight/flight response to kick in. Which makes chronic depression/anxiety so hard to overcome & isolation reinforces this habit. This is my personal layperson opinion I am not a doctor. Start with simple changes like parking in a different paking slot, shop at a different market. Rearange things in the home like kitchen cabinets. Changing your routine may open the door to changing how we emotionally respond to our thoughts and feelings. Evolution is to change. To be aware of our habits with the willingness to engage in the world with different views takes time. Gentle changes one day at a time. May all come to a safe place in life and in owns own mind. __________________ Happiedasiy, Selfworth growing in my garden |
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Interesting article. Thanks for sharing.
I agree that negative emotions can be self-reinforcing, but I don't really know the mechanism. This endorphin theory sounds as good as any. I wonder if endorphin is released with depression as a natural response to pain? I've heard a theory that that's why people cut. Endorphins are released in response to the physical pain which also helps with the psychic pain. __________________ "Hear me, my Chiefs! I am tired; my heart is sick and sad. From where the sun now stands I will fight no more forever."--Chief Joseph |
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Based on my own life experiences, I agree totally with the findings put forth in both parts of your post.
I suffer from social isolation and depression. I am really disliked in the community despite the volunteer work I have done. I am not good at building coalitions with others. So, when I put in my two cents, even if they have been requested, I am viewed as an outsider and a problem. They can't wait to get rid of me and I have been banished for standing up against inappropriate behavior of others. My social anxiety has gotten so bad that now, at times, I am unable to speak back when people say rude things directly to my face. I just freeze like an animal with an approaching car's headlights in their eyes. I walk around somber most of the time and that further turns off others and makes me an outcast. However, it prevents others from interacting with me and, from an unconscious standpoint, it protects someone like me with a history of poor social results. As a sufferer of C-PTSD, I have asked myself hundreds of times - Why is my mind doing this to me? A lot of my problems were the instinctive ways that I responded to things; problems that CBT could not help because I was responding instinctively. I guess my C-PTSD thoughts are meant to release endorphins. However, the effects are not helpful; they are just inappropriate and, ultimately, hurtful. I do not know how to control my instinctive responses. It does not help to ignore them or to just let them pass - they just keep on coming back. |
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A few years may make or break where they're going with this. Interesting though. Isolating and defining a mechanism seems to be the next step...I have no clue how these folks do their work. Fingers crossed for the future. I wonder if it's endorphins or maybe an endorphin-like chemical that originates the same way but with diff. properties perhaps. Maybe something alters the makeup of this endorphin...perhaps it's a mimic and something entirely different. How to find that out??? Oh well...back to the comic books...
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wow.. so this is my future.. I guess isolation is a personal decision. So our downfall is our fault ...which to a degree is better than others wiping us out. Both cases, it is painful existence..
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I think this is "one" way we can interpret our need and even acceptance of isolation. While what is discussed here could be true, we may also seek isolation as another way to thrive as well. It is not uncommon for early man to go out on their own and though they may have been rejected from the "group" that rejection doesn't necessarily mean, the end of survival. It could also mean an opportunity to thrive in a different way.
So these endorphines could be there to address the situation of either rejection or loss through some kind of trajedy to the group. So, in other words, if a group was destroyed leaving a survivor, these endorphines may be there to encourage the survivor to be "ok" in isolation until he/she can locate another group to connect with and again thrive and procreate. So, what is discussed above is one way of looking at it, however, I believe there are more reasons than just what is discussed above. Thank you for posting this di meliora, it is definitely something to ponder. I just want to make sure that people who truely struggle don't self blame and keep working on learning and growing inspite of being challenged. I think that it is important, we had to do that in early man as well. Open Eyes Last edited by Open Eyes; Dec 09, 2012 at 07:31 PM.. |
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Like most things human, I think the effects of isolation and/or loneliness must fall on a continuum. I do think that there are those humans who are the sentinels of the bunch - the natural loners. Evolutionarily speaking, those would serve as the lookouts for the group. The scouts. Or those who, for whatever reason, do not get the payoff from social interaction.
I do not think this is aberrant or even harmful to those individuals. Not all seek or desire the tribe so to speak. I do not agree with the author's contention that there is an addiction-like quality to negative thinking. In fact, just the opposite I believe to be true. The relief from that stressor is far far far more powerful than the experience of stress. Also, the release of endorphins only mitigates the effects of stress - or there would be fewer negative effects of stress. With time, stressors become centralized and the endorphin response blunted. It just doesn't ring true to me. I think humans are hard-wired to feel better, not worse. We seek relief because we can't provide it endogenously. __________________ ......................... |
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He who is unable to live in society, or who has no need because he is sufficient for himself, must be either a beast or a god. ~Aristotle
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Very interesting as usual. Makes me feel a lot better about my solitary weekend. I'm an outlier!
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