obsession with hospital..

If your near suicidal they should no, so you needed an escape before you leave this planet. If you carnt string to words togeather and you eyes are near on shut with depression, there should be away to help. But a med script that's not going to make any difference only maybe make it worse for a 8 weeks is the usual answer , Bipolar they take them in to stablise there meds before they loose there house ,gamble away the car sleep with prostitutes ect ect , but a clinical depressive his not admitted in ENGLAND for more than a couple of days and by then you would kill to get out. IF you have nothing at home to go to, I can see you may want to stay , but I would sooner med experiment in the comfort of my family, not a bunch of people that clock off and forget you exsist., the week end in mental hospital is like a grave yard 1 doctor, day release for the patients doing ok , and a chemical cosh for the rest till Monday. ESCAPE is simple weekend no one to stop you, a lady escaped in her night dress, caught a bus into town got served in 4 bars before someone called the cops, not because she had on a nighty and slippers but by now she was stupid drunk

I really just rested. I was too depressed to do much. The nurses were good. My T still comes on a Saturday and my pdoc I think too. It was nice to have people close by that didn't think I was mad or over-reacting and that had been thro the same as me. I've been twice and stayed 5 days

if you feel you need to and they are happy with the situation go for it, just don't get to comfortable or you may get feel that its the only answer, a lot of patients in my hospital could not string 2 words together let alone act semi normal it is not a place I would or could rest up in. Do you have you own room????? never had that , what about day room where things get heated between patients , some get scarred s*** less by other patients. There bullies , junkies , and the down right scary, and a scattering of really great people. Your hospital sounds more like a retreat than a mental hospital im used two. You are very lucky , we don't get that treatment where we could rest even in general hospital after a operation,. You are very lucky to have such a place the NHS could not afford such things, has I say we don't even get many named branded meds.

I used to get very obsessed with the hospital,
It was for multiple reasons.

For one, I felt like it was inevitable. I felt like no matter what I did to get better, I would eventually be going back to the hospital. I had dreams about me messing up really badly and then having to go back. I knew that I was in a bad place and that I was not being very safe. I knew it was sooner or later, I would be going back... even though I didn't really want to.

The secondly, at the time I was reading so much about other people who were going in and out of the hospital, or currently in residential treatment. I felt like I had to do the same thing, to show that I was just as bad, or possibly, worse than they were. I felt like I had to prove that I was struggling so people would take me seriously, so therefore I had to be in the hospital often so people would know I was serious about offing myself.

This is what I don't get, you say you were serious about suicide, yet you wanted show other people you were , I didn't want to convince anyone , I was serious that is the reason I was kept in the zoo , the others in A -E got sent home they were playing at it taking borderline meds enough to cause a fuss. People that take there life never useually tell anyone they just do it , they are passed help in there head an maybe they are. How many times have you heard people say, I DIDNT EVEN NO THEY WERE ILL.

Ah, yes, I have definitely heard that before.
The first time I attempted suicide, I didn't tell anyone, and I didn't want anyone to know. But at the same time, I was hoping that people would be upset about me after I died.

But, my other suicide attempts were not made because I wanted 'out'. I was not even depressed when I attempted suicide the last few times. I was suicidal because I was being ordered to die, that if I died I could save the world, and thus, I wanted people to know that I was suffering for a reason. I wanted people to know that I was NOT okay and that I did, truly want help.

Then, after a while, it juts got to the point where I wanted to warn people about the terror that was coming, what I was being told would happen if I didn't kill myself.

So, yeah.
Sorry for rambling,
My point is, everyone who attempts suicide has a different reason for such. People can be very serious about killing themselves, but still wanting to show people that they are capable of doing it. I've had a therapist who told me after my first OD, that, "You should have known that ODing is the least likely to actually cause death." and then he went on to say, "If you truly wanted to die you would have done something more permanent than OD" (I can't use his exact words because I don't want to give any one any ideas.)

Sorry but thats a dangerous assumption and completely wrong!

Many, many people who eventually commit suicide have previously asked for help or recently told someone they were going to do it.

Never, ever assume that just because someone says theyre going to do it, they wont!

This discussion is getting a bit out of line I feel.
There's no need to "compete" about who is more sick or what reason for suicide are acceptable and legitimate.

Just to clarify - we had rooms shared with about 3 or 4 people. It was mainly for depression and bipolar. The junkies that were there to detox were so doped up to not really feel the withdrawals. Sure, there were some scary people, especially hypomanic or manic patients. But nothing over the top. If I felt uncomfortable around a bunch of people, I could leave to go to a lounge, my room, ...

Our NHS is a joke and really not safe. We have to pay huge insurance monthly to get private health care, and they have luckily covered my expenses thus far.

Hi Unlived
" Here in Australia we have a public and private system. We don't NEED insurance, and I think most private hospitals keep you for a maximum of 3 weeks?
The public system takes anyone." Please let me know what state you live in and I might move there.... lols.

I assume you live in a Major city because what you are saying is untrue where I live. Only the very manic or psychotic can get a bed in the public system. If you are suicidal you are more likely to be turned away as they only have 15 Public beds over the western side of the state of Victoria. I think they are planning to upgrade to 30 beds in the near future, which is still not covering the public's needs. This hospital covers a population of 300,000 people. You do need insurance to get into one private facility that has only in the past year upgraded to 40 beds.

Now back to the issue of being obsessed with hospital. Being in hospital a very unreal kind of normal being tucked away from the world for whatever reason. For me it has become a form of protection from the outside world. My P'doc has seen it become harder and harder place for me to leave to the extent where it would endanger my life. Life on the outside is very hard for many reasons. So now I get to stay on the outside for my own protection..... A turn around for the books. For those who are scared of it, I see it as a haven. Different strokes for different folks.

That was a honest and well put response, how hospital can become an obsession to stay safe, there was a guy who served in the waiting room shop down stairs in the visitors waiting area I thought he was a volunteer. But he had a bed on the ward, he never made friends and sat on his own for meals. His story is a mistory we never found out because every patient in the ward said he was there before them, so god knows how long he had been in and why.

It really is another world in hospital. And at times a real comfort blanket. But getting re-integrated into life outside is a totally different game

Staying outside is now the only option I have. It is very hard sugahorse. This morning I am off to a craft class around the corner from me. Some days I make it and some days I dont. My P'doc will no longer admit me to the clinic and I know there is no chance of getting into the public system, and even then its only one or two days max.

its a scary world out here but I no longer get the option. But then at times it was hard in the clinic so it kinda works out the same.

and why do u think u will end up in hospital ??

you should ask yourself this Q ?? it could be a part of u want to stay at hospital maybe

because it's scared to lose control or hurt you and the other part try to comfort you

and tell u that you can't lose control on your own body or feelings if so my advice will be to focus on the comfort part of you keep +ve thinking don't freak out from hospital they

just help people they are not gonna eat you !!! I hope I helped you good luck

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