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#1
Jul 23, 2006, 12:55 PM
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since religion has caused a few problems lately, could we please have a "religion/spiritualy" forum so that the posters who don't want to read the threads would know not to go there?
we, probably, all believe in something. could we have some help here? pat |
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#2
Jul 23, 2006, 01:12 PM
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Pat I had thought about the same thing! I know sometimes though when I feel it I do tell people I will keep them in my prayers. Maybe I should just pm those...*sigh* I will not feel ashamed of my beliefs!!
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Jul 23, 2006, 01:13 PM
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i'm not ashamed of my beliefs either. i think that religion is too personal and too sensitive of a subject for it to not have it's own thread.
thanks for your support, bebop. it means a lot. xoxoxo pat |
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Jul 23, 2006, 02:35 PM
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I am not ashamed of my beliefs.. And I don't think anyone should be ashamed for what they believe in......But I do think a forum for religion and or politics would only create more problems.... Thinks a religion forum would only feed anger, resentment and misunderstandings... And I think we already have enough of misunderstandings and anger here... Folks here can be too "touchy" for such a heated topic as religion.....Besides this is a mental health forum and religion isn't a mental health topic.....IMHO
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#5
Jul 23, 2006, 02:38 PM
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I think what Pat is asking is for a forum for the believers..if someone don't believe then they shouldn't go there. really simple
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Jul 23, 2006, 02:42 PM
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oo ok.. that makes sense then.... I guess I misunderstood... Thanks bebop... Well then, fayerody's idea is a good idea.. But then we have to consider which belief would be the foundation for the forum... There are so many different beliefs which one would get the forum????
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Jul 23, 2006, 02:43 PM
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I think she meant the believers in God...maybe not though. maybe need to ask her
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Jul 23, 2006, 02:43 PM
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ooooooo i was just thinking... all religions pray.... so maybe a prayer forum... that might cause less of a huff...................
We all need prayers one time or another... and everyone welcomes prayers.... so a prayer forum .. maybe?????? |
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#9
Jul 23, 2006, 02:44 PM
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yeah maybe
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Jul 23, 2006, 02:48 PM
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Ummmmmm some folks flip out at the very mention of God.... although I am a follower of Christ, I still make many mistakes, and far from perfect.....I just think a forum for those who believe in God would be a mistake..... because there are many who do not believe in God... and even if they have the choice not to go to such a forum , just seeing that type of forum listed will cause many resentments.....IMHO Maybe keeping it simple as a "prayer forum" would be good...
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Jul 23, 2006, 03:37 PM
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i have to reply to this even though i'm
"gone" now. please, please, please read the "religion/spiritualy" part. i did not mention a specific religion. i did not mention God. i covered all bases. you can be very religious and believe in God. you can be very spiritual and have a higher power. it can be anything.and it all computes out to the fact that you can have different views, but still discuss it on THAT forum. there are people here who never go into certain forums because they don't WANT to........they understand that they either don't have anything to contribute or don't understand the illness. that doesn't cause any problems. i did not mention prayer. prayer can be in tons of forms.... i thought that it was clear that it could be a forum where anyone could go and discuss their personal beliefs. why not? and if you don't want to discuss or read....it's simple enough. you don't go there and the mental health forums go on. i thought that the post was self-explanatory. thanks, xoxoxo pat |
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#12
Jul 23, 2006, 03:48 PM
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</font><blockquote><div id="quote"><font class="small">Quote:</font>
i thought that it was clear that it could be a forum where anyone could go and discuss their personal beliefs. why not? </div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> Why not you ask......... for everyone to discuss their personal beliefs would cause rage for some... I've been to many "religion" forums with various beliefs and all it causes is fights...... hurt feelings........ and rage........ One person believes this or that and another person wants to strike out at how another believes... I can see in no way how a religion forum with no limits of beliefs would result in harmony....... IMHO |
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#13
Jul 23, 2006, 03:57 PM
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Actually, we are allowed to voice our own beliefs within our own posts, already. It's when we say something in a way that puts down another's beliefs that causes problems. Also, there are some ppl who don't want anything religious posted at all...and when it happens, a problem arises just from the discord...and voila`.... hurt feelings and upset.
I do not think a forum just for that would work out well. Some members here already have trouble separating us from them, so to speak, and how my words really don't hurt or help unless you want them to or allow them to... based upon where you and I are in our healing. I hope that is read correctly. To try and discuss things of a supernatural or higher nature, well, it's difficult. People already wear their hearts on their sleeves here... are you really sure you want this??? TC!  BTW it doesn't even work on specific religious sites "only"... it's just too heated and personal I guess.  We can already ask for prayer, and if we know the member allows it, offer to pray for them. We can already support each other in chat with this discussion..and ask questions about it, based upon our own struggles and triumphs... Talk to us more fayerody... what is it you need right now?
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Jul 23, 2006, 04:03 PM
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I believe psychology should deal with the whole person . . . mind, body, and spirit. I'd enjoy Psych Central more if we could chat about any topic . . . including religion and politics.
However, I think DocJohn knows best. There needs to be some limits in discussing controversial subjects. I do not want Psych Central to lose it's focus as a support forum for people who need help with mental health issues. Other mental health sites do not have what we have here. If you want to talk religion, use the private messages (PM), email, blog, or go to another website. |
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#15
Jul 23, 2006, 04:07 PM
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</font><blockquote><div id="quote"><font class="small">Quote:</font>
I believe psychology should deal with the whole person . . . mind, body, and spirit. </div></font></blockquote><font class="post">  But, unfortunately, the "spirit" part as maybe being religion would mostly cause problems... which is sad.... if folks would not strike out when another person beliefs are different, it would be great.... but unfortunately that doesn't happen often... IMHO |
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#16
Jul 23, 2006, 05:19 PM
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That would be a wonderful ideal if it can be done..... for while we do not push any of our beliefs onto another person at any given time - some do take the mere mention of Christ as an attack on them if they are not a Christian..... that of which was never any ones intention, but nevertheless that is how it was perceived by the receiver.
LoVe, Rhapsody - (((( hugs )))) P.S. No matter what takes place (or not) - I will continue to let people know that I will PRAY for them when they share a burden with me or ask for prayers (and) I will always be accepting of every ones religion belief on this site..... for we are all unique individuals, and I am not a judge. |
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#17
Jul 23, 2006, 05:38 PM
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Never mind.
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Jul 23, 2006, 05:41 PM
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((((((( HUGS ))))))) ~ ~ ~ ((((((( HUGS )))))))
Maybe what we are actually seeking here is: ACCEPTANCE ................................................................................................ (of all). LoVe, Rhapsody - (i still love the thought) 
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#19
Jul 23, 2006, 06:01 PM
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> you can be very religious and believe in God. you can be very spiritual and have a higher power.
i don't consider myself to be any of those things so a religion / spirituality / god / higher power forum wouldn't be something i'd go to... But that being said if there was one then those kindsa posts could be redirected there so they would appear less on other boards... be hard with the blurry line between substance and the other forum given the prevalence of aa/na as a treatment approach... |
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#20
Jul 23, 2006, 07:45 PM
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In my experience with people online and off the discussion of religion and politics is a bad thing...especially if we have different views. If the person you're speaking with is accepting and all then it would be cool but that's a rare thing.
These are just my thoughts.
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#21
Jul 23, 2006, 07:49 PM
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Doc John had already nixed this idea... a long time ago.
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#22
Jul 23, 2006, 08:12 PM
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i've noticed that there is a fair amount of discussion of religion though. or maybe it isn't so much discussion about religion as it is discussion about god and stuff...
people seem to do it a bit anyway. i think the notion would be that it could have its own forum so that posts with those themes / that topic could be redirected there. so there would be less discussion of religon / religious themes on the present board. i dunno... i like to talk about issues in philosophy of religion... but oh well... political theory too... but never mind. i don't really care... in a funny mood today. i think you can pretty much do that but if the thread escalates... it will be locked. |
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#23
Jul 23, 2006, 08:22 PM
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PER the RULES....... we are to limit our talk on religion, therefore, you would have to take that type of conversation to PM.
LoVe, Rhapsody -
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#24
Jul 23, 2006, 08:25 PM
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I prefer people find such discussions at communities intended for such topics, such as Beliefnet or any political forum site.
Just to clarify, we do not ban such discussions, we just discourage them for exactly the reason stated -- people tend to hold very strong opinions about the topics. It leads to a lot of fighting, which goes against the grain and purpose of this community -- emotional support and help. Not to say I would never create such a forum on a site, just that at this moment, I'm still leaning against it. DocJohn
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#25
Jul 23, 2006, 09:16 PM
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sure. i'm getting the hang of the notion of 'limited' discussion. seems that people are fairly much free to discuss it... but if the thread escalates... then it will be locked / deleted. fair enough. better than blockings lol.
 happens to other threads with different topics at any rate. i still think that the discussions would be less likely to escalate if there was a specific place for those threads, but i'll admit that i'm a bright / atheist so that is typically considered 'unsupportive' of religious faith / belief anyhoo... (though i also think that athiests / agnostics are acutally the repressed minority at this present time in certain parts of the world and athiesm / agnosticism can be supportive insofar as people appreciate that they aren't so very bad for not being able to bring themselves to believe in omnigod and variations on the theme, but anyway...) > people tend to hold very strong opinions about the topics. It leads to a lot of fighting... yeah, it can do. > Not to say I would never create such a forum on a site, just that at this moment, I'm still leaning against it. sure, i understand. um... can we talk about political ideology very abstractly? i mean... plato and the like. not the situation in the middle east or anything like that... but very abstract ideology stuff? kind of... issues in ethics and global justice whose relations to specific policies / factors of the situation is fairly much unspecified? maybe... try and see? |
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