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Old Nov 12, 2013, 05:41 AM
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I have no clue where this could lead.

I am a member of a very small online MH support forum at another site. Recently, I found out there is a hate group cyberstalking our members, and causing them real world problems - they " outed" one man after they were able to root out his real world identity, and ended up getting him fired. They would love to do the same to me.

They are hateful and truly evil. I have an online friend in the other forum, a big sensitive puppy dog of a kid, college age, who has severe depression and has recently been inpatient. Yesterday, they posted a message to him - it was a photograph of a noose and a chair. I simply cannot fathom why anyone would be so cruel, and to a complete stranger yet. It breaks my heart.

I have even wondered at times if this is real, or if I am delusional and in some kind of full blown paranoid hallucination. But, I have had a few trusted people right here check it out, and it is real.

I hope I can fight these people. I have an appointment this morning with an attorney. I spoke with him on the phone, he seemed to feel that he could help. The first step would be to petition the court for an order of personal protection and a temporary restraining order against these bigots, followed by a hearing about a permanent injunction against them. In a perfect world, that would lead to criminal charges against them and a lawsuit for defamation - they have libeled me in the most malicious ways.

How far it gets is hard to say - I could walk out of there today with nothing, feeling even more broken.

Wish me luck. I'm doing this for myself, but I am doing this for ALL of us - I am damned sick of being considered a second class citizen , damaged goods if you will, by a society that loves to kick people when they are down.
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Old Nov 12, 2013, 07:46 AM
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Good luck to you. Hope it works out well. I can't believe people would be this awful.
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Old Nov 12, 2013, 08:20 AM
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Hi. I am sorry to hear about this situation. You must have allies to fight and win this battle. Please do not fight it alone. You must out-smart those who would hurt you. Please do some research to find out if there are authorities who can help you and your online friends. I wish you success.
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Old Nov 12, 2013, 09:56 AM
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Good luck and prayers for your safety.
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Old Nov 12, 2013, 12:43 PM
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Good luck with this. I'd want some computer people helping. Do you?
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Old Nov 12, 2013, 01:45 PM
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I hope you are able to fight this. Please let us know how it turns out.
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Old Nov 12, 2013, 03:13 PM
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Good luck with your battle. It seems you can do some good here. I pray for you. You are a good person to be doing this for yourself and others. have a great and productive day now.
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Old Nov 12, 2013, 03:28 PM
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Good luck to you-It amazes me how people get their kicks out of hurting others in such ways
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Old Nov 12, 2013, 03:49 PM
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I think it says to pray for your enemies in the Bible, because God throws heaps of burning coal on their heads. Just though you may have heard this. I think your enemies won't win!!!
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Old Nov 12, 2013, 04:12 PM
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Unfortunately I have no difficulty believing this is real. I came across that kind of behavior in several support chats. Sometimes evil people do target them. I was personally targeted twice. Outed once. Slandered to hell and back once.

Unfortunately no one seems to take this stuff seriously. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think you have a case.
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Old Nov 12, 2013, 10:17 PM
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Actually, the meeting went really well, and I feel good about. He is a former assistant district attorney, worked in the DA's office for 15 years, has been in private practice about 10 years. Has a really high rating. I gave him a retainer, and he is going to get the summons and complaint as well as subpoenas ready to file in 2 weeks.

Where it goes, hard to say. Hoping for the best.
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Old Nov 13, 2013, 05:11 AM
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Do keep us informed about this Motown, will be fascinating to see how it progresses. Good luck!
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Old Nov 13, 2013, 05:42 AM
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I will. I am a paralegal myself, but this is uncharted territory for me. I know nothing about criminal law, and even though the initial filings will be a defamation suit (civil) and a motion for a protective order, the hope is that we also can proceed on the criminal side with cyberstalking and harassment charges. I don't even know very much about filing a civil suit, I had one class in it, almost 7 years ago, and my job doesn't involve that, my boss is a CPA and attorney. We do tax law, even some IRS Criminal Investigation Division cases, but it is very different, and those never end in criminal charges. Just enormous fines.

So I will keep people informed. We are not second class citizens or second class human beings. I have been told I am, and have no civil rights, but that is untrue.
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Old Nov 13, 2013, 06:01 AM
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Some thing like this could end up on CNN news! Good Luck!
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Old Nov 13, 2013, 09:12 AM
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have you consulted the Federal Civil Rights attorneys? there is an ADA division which deals exclusively with disabilities, and brain chemistry disorders are included. it's a bit late to get them involved, their case load, as you might imagine, is huge, but if you have to appeal~!?? i hope you find an enlightened judge~! thanks for doing this for all of us~!
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Old Nov 16, 2013, 11:54 PM
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I have no clue where this could lead.

I am a member of a very small online MH support forum at another site. Recently, I found out there is a hate group cyberstalking our members, and causing them real world problems - they " outed" one man after they were able to root out his real world identity, and ended up getting him fired. They would love to do the same to me.

They are hateful and truly evil. I have an online friend in the other forum, a big sensitive puppy dog of a kid, college age, who has severe depression and has recently been inpatient. Yesterday, they posted a message to him - it was a photograph of a noose and a chair. I simply cannot fathom why anyone would be so cruel, and to a complete stranger yet. It breaks my heart.

I have even wondered at times if this is real, or if I am delusional and in some kind of full blown paranoid hallucination. But, I have had a few trusted people right here check it out, and it is real.

I hope I can fight these people. I have an appointment this morning with an attorney. I spoke with him on the phone, he seemed to feel that he could help. The first step would be to petition the court for an order of personal protection and a temporary restraining order against these bigots, followed by a hearing about a permanent injunction against them. In a perfect world, that would lead to criminal charges against them and a lawsuit for defamation - they have libeled me in the most malicious ways.

How far it gets is hard to say - I could walk out of there today with nothing, feeling even more broken.

Wish me luck. I'm doing this for myself, but I am doing this for ALL of us - I am damned sick of being considered a second class citizen , damaged goods if you will, by a society that loves to kick people when they are down.
MotownJohny--I think U R a very COURAGEOUS person. To come out & public ally acknowledge that U have a MH problem is brave. To come out & fight for
yourself & others who R essentially stalking & bullying your entire group is tre-
me duos. I love the compassion U have 4 your member who was recently an
inpatient & your understanding of how fragile he is. I wish U the best of luck in
fighting against this group of bullies. Be BOLD!!! Be BRAVE!!!
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Old Nov 17, 2013, 12:06 AM
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Old Nov 17, 2013, 10:19 AM
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MotownJohnny, I believe people will do this sort of thing because it happened to me years ago. Personally, I believe the people who pull this kind of shite are sicker than we are.

Thank you for having the courage to do this. Please keep us informed how it goes.
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