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Old Nov 11, 2013, 12:34 AM
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What if the time you spent inside the womb during development is responsible for all your deep seeded issues? What if every time your mother got upset or happy and either increase her levels of cortisol or oxytocin effected your view on life. Can chemicals be shaped into memories? Can the emotions problems or confusions that your mother was going through during your gestation become your very first thoughts. Hence,( post traumatic stress) you spend the rest of your life working on the issues your mother had during that time. The phrase," a face only a mother could love" what if that is true…. Because it's the mothers face. She put those ideas and must have over came them since you were inside you or has she. Is it because of your mom that your screwed up and is it your mom's job to fix herself and let you in on her discovery?
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Old Nov 12, 2013, 12:55 AM
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i think your theory is an interesting one, and it certainly seems logical to me and maybe i think you are right there are some memories we are born with, be they good or bad. but to say all deep seeded issues stem from nine months of pregnancy and chemical in balance is pushing it and highly unlikely.you have a point, but as an example my mother is a narcissist ,angry ,cold and evil and i am the opposite.
nice theory though.
eventually life is about learnt behavior , environment and choices, we are born and we start to make those choices.
for a time we can to a certain extent blame our parents for certain experiences/things that happen to us.
but then we get to a certain age we have to take responsibility for our own actions and our choices and our own happiness.
thank you for posting this it made me think. hope you have a great day and welcome to the site i am new here as well.
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Old Nov 14, 2013, 11:36 AM
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Spiralbloom, that definitely is an interesting theory, and may have some truth in it. However, I do agree with abyss that these difficulties that we encounter in life is more about learnt behavior, environment, choices, etc. I know it's easy to blame ourselves for the depression and the terrible thoughts and mental hardships that we endure and experience, and sometimes it's easier to blame other people or events for this, and sometimes someone or something that is to blame - but through my experiences, I've found that putting the blame on anyone (whether myself, or on something/someone else) for the thoughts of suicide running through my mind, and the desire to self-injure running through my pores, makes everything so much worst. For me, getting better isn't necessarily focused on taking responsibility, or making other people take responsibility, because we can't change the past. But rather, I focus on the present, right here and now, and what I can do to make myself happier... well, it's a work in progress.
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Old Nov 14, 2013, 12:39 PM
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I am sure a lot of our issues are genetic and some come from conditions in the womb (left-handedness, for example) but they are not our "mother's" issues. We don't start with fully diagnosed difficulties of any sort because there are no words for "memories" of any sort. We all have genetic vulnerabilities and personalities; that's part of our survival as a species plan; you need introverted types as well as the fearless who go out hunting the saber tooth tiger You need people with good memories to remember the clan stories and we all have to die of something; some people are born with their lungs not quite as good (I have asthma, which lungs I assume I inherited from my maternal grandmother who died of emphysema, a 3 pack-a-day smoker) and some have heart issues (my father had a genetic heart issue that was not discovered until he was in his 50's), I am pretty sure I'll die of "internal"/gut issues and/or stroke (rather than heart, and I have no cancer anywhere in my family medical history back a couple hundred years), etc. No reason mental proclivities, like degree of anxiety, depression, etc. should not be genetic; we all know happy babies and fussy ones. No need to "blame" it on just the mother or just the womb; experience is a lot stronger as they are just aptitudes or possibilities, not determinants before we are born. Sure, if your mother has a rough life, is anxious, you are probably going to have a rough life and be raised by an anxious mother making you anxious! Doesn't need just the womb and development.
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Old Nov 14, 2013, 08:24 PM
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What if the time you spent inside the womb during development is responsible for all your deep seeded issues? What if every time your mother got upset or happy and either increase her levels of cortisol or oxytocin effected your view on life. Can chemicals be shaped into memories? Can the emotions problems or confusions that your mother was going through during your gestation become your very first thoughts. Hence,( post traumatic stress) you spend the rest of your life working on the issues your mother had during that time. The phrase," a face only a mother could love" what if that is true…. Because it's the mothers face. She put those ideas and must have over came them since you were inside you or has she. Is it because of your mom that your screwed up and is it your mom's job to fix herself and let you in on her discovery?
Chemicals, are released, in the form of thyroid hormones...

""Thyroid hormones of maternal origin are present in the fetal compartment, despite the very efficient uterine-placental 'barrier', necessary to avoid potentially toxic concentrations of free T4 and T3 from reaching fetal tissues before they are required for development.....

.... Maternal transfer constitutes a major fraction of fetal serum T4, even after onset of fetal thyroid secretion, and continues to have an important protective role in fetal neurodevelopment until birth. Prompt treatment of maternal hypothyroidism, identified by increased TSH, is being advocated to mitigate a negative effect on the woman and her child"""
Maternal thyroid hormon... [Best Pract Res Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2004] - PubMed - NCBI

Another thing, to consider, is what happens, outside the womb, initially...
Welcome to Attachment Parenting International ((but, I'd reach further, and say, that it would take lots and lots for attachment disorder to develop, in a child))<<---environmental

But remember, the thyroid hormones, were designed to help protect the fetus as it develops into a baby with it's neurodevelopment.<<---protection from too much of maternal hormones, in a growing fetus.

It would be nice, to 'blame' 'mom' for passing along that bi-polar gene or for anxiety and ptsd, but, um, it takes a man and a woman, to create a baby. So, um, where's the 'blame dad', theory??
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