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Old Oct 10, 2014, 02:11 PM
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For some reason this made me think of American Pyscho...

You know, how we can be Wolves in Sheep's clothing.

I think clothing is very easy to judge but it's still all speculation. That nice woman who appears well kept might have just come from her husbands bedside at the hospital. That guy with the too short trousers and baggy jumper might be a genius who cares very little for outward appearances. Then of course we get the extremely well dressed individual who might be totally empty inside - or an abusive psychopath who beats their partner.

I think too much importance is placed on looks. I know that's a very obvious thing to say but it seems the more advanced we become the further behind we leave reality. So long as clothes cover the body and the person is odorous - i'm not sure what more we can ask for.
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Old Oct 10, 2014, 02:31 PM
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Well, Václav Havel had short pants on his very first inauguration and wore damn sweaters all the time. Many Uni profesors look like guy whom would you be terrified to meet in a park after dark.

But until you have lotta degrees or claim or helped to bring down communist regime........... people gonna judge. Why make it harder for yourself?
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Old Oct 11, 2014, 10:43 PM
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OP, you are basically viewing yourself as a representative of the community of mentally ill people if not its PR department. I think it is more than commendable, as long as nobody who is not up to that challenge feels that he or she is letting down the community by failing to be as polished as you are.

You mentioned cologne (perfume for women). I think there is more to it (in modest quantities) than just being presentable. The olfactory sense is enlivened when you use fragrances and you simply feel better, and then, you look better, too.
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Old Oct 12, 2014, 11:31 AM
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>>After I was done there, one of my reforms was to upgrade my wardrobe and be "spot on" on grooming. I wasn't a slouch before, working a white collar job. But, business casual went away, full business suit and tie replaced that. I invested a bit in a fresh wardrobe and made sure I got my haircut every other week, rather than every 4 or 5. Made sure my beard was very neatly trimmed, always wore cologne, always color coordinated.<<

You make an excellent point. I think that good grooming habits are a function of self esteem...of liking yourself in a constructive way. Unfortunately many people with MI have low self esteem, are depressed, etc., and the grooming goes out the window.

Glad to hear you are "standing tall". However...IMHO...loose the cologne. Just be clean. It's really annoying to smell somebody from across the room, or wherever. Just my opinion.

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Old Oct 12, 2014, 11:41 AM
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I'm not trying to raise the bar or be an ambassador for MI. But I do know I feel better mentally and physically and feel better about myself if I take care of my grooming, wardrobe and physical appearance. So I'm probably more in agreement with MotownJohnny than others might be.

When my mother was my age, she'd been an invalid for at least 5 years due to mental and physical health problems. One day she announced she was old -- she wasn't -- and she wasn't getting dressed. She didn't get dressed for weeks at a time. She didn't leave the house. If she wanted to leave or had to leave for a doctor's appointment, then bathing, combing her hair, finding matching clothes, getting dressed, putting on shoes became a huge ordeal. This pattern went on for years. She went to in-patient treatment three times and she'd come home and not get dressed again.

It made a big impression on me. As a result, I get up no matter how bad I feel, even when I had broken bones, and I bathe, take care of my complexion, do my hair and get dressed. I wear casual clothes around the house and to the gym. I like to get dirty doing yard work or housework or exercising hard. Those clothes get worn once and then washed.

But if I'm going somewhere, even the grocery store, I step it up a notch. If I'm engaging in business, I wear business attire, although I don't own a dress or high heels and I wear very little jewelry. But I have some high quality pants suits and separates, silk shirts and leather flats. It's all comfortable.

I do it for me. It makes me feel better. And even though it's unfair because people shouldn't be judged on shallow things yadayada I know I get taken more seriously and treated better because of the way I present myself. I hope I don't ever get to the point where I announce I'm too old or too depressed or too sick to get dressed. I don't want to repeat my mother's downward spiral.
Omg, I'm like your mom. That's so depressing.
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Old Oct 12, 2014, 11:45 AM
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This may not answer the op's question but it certainly makes me think about how my appearance has become such an issue for me. An issue that I think is dragging me down with the depression. I have always been very particular about my appearance. Even back when I was in a psych hospital for depression post suicide attempt, I kept up the hair and makeup and dressed the best that I could. Once a doctor there told me that I could not possibly be depressed by the way that I looked. Really, was that a scientific observation? I thought he was pretty ignorant from that statement.

I digress. Things have changed since then, I had to go on disability income when I became unable to work at all as a nurse. With this income I can truly not afford to have decent hair cuts regularly and especially cannot afford clothes. I barely make it through each month, sometimes am spent out by the 10th of the month and have to figure out how to survive 20 more days. So, even working at finding sales, doing couponing and all, I cannot afford clothes.

Sorry, not meaning to sound so pitiful, but my clothes look awful now and so does my hair. I do think that it is me being super self conscious more than ever about how I look that is causing me distress. With about 30 lbs of weight gain I don't think any clothes look good on me, old clothes don't fit me. This has all just happened within the last 3 years, I have not been able to replace most clothes items like the basics. I used to buy good clothes, lingerie, hair products etc. I have been to goodwill a few times for clothes...awful. They all smell like body odor when you first get them!

So, when I look in the mirror with all the above and a few more years aging, I can hardly stand to look at myself. I think all the 'trauma' of my severe mental illness that was exacerbated 10 years ago and now post klonopin withdrawal for 19 months of literal hell, has definitely taken a toll on my looks. I wish that I could be kinder and gentler to myself. Goodness knows, I am way harder on myself that any of you might be. I imagine that I will hear from here that I am too superficial and I need to give it a rest, whatever I catch from writing this.

All that said, I do think that when I at least try to shower and dress, put my face on and do my best, I do feel better. Physically and mentally. Ironically, the last few days have been bad and I did not shower for 4 days! Not like me, but I live alone and never see anyone unless I go visit them most of the time, so the motivation factors are low!

I really would love it hear any suggestions on how I can improve my attitude towards myself and appearance. My dear sweet mother was my role model, she was always dressed nice and took great pride in her appearance.
You have also been going through Klonopin withdrawal! You understand! Was it voluntary, or did someone force you off them?
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Old Oct 12, 2014, 03:46 PM
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You have also been going through Klonopin withdrawal! You understand! Was it voluntary, or did someone force you off them?
Originally I was forced off for 4 days, pure hell, but then knew deep inside that I needed to rid myself of that demon! I chose to keep on trudging through, don't know if I would have done it knowing what I know now! Healing is not linear, it goes back and forth between feeling a little better for a few days to being back in hell for a week. Very strange. Still happening just like that.

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Old Oct 12, 2014, 03:57 PM
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Originally I was forced off for 4 days, pure hell, but then knew deep inside that I needed to rid myself of that demon! I chose to keep on trudging through, don't know if I would have done it knowing what I know now! Healing is not linear, it goes back and forth between feeling a little better for a few days to being back in hell for a week. Very strange. Still happening just like that.

Thanks Angelique
Yes, and it's been absolute hell for me too, and I just want it to end. I sat on my bed, nothing else, since May of 13. I don't know if I'm ever going to be better. I think the jerks here did it out of ignorance and spite. Ignorance, anyway. ((ForeverLonelyGirl))
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