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Default Oct 17, 2014 at 02:26 AM
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Well I did clear it up somewhat...was going to therapy, was supposed to be transferred was told to go to an appointment on the wrong day so missed it since they told me a day that was after the fact. But got things resceduled and what not....feel kind of pathetic since main reason is I didn't want to have discontinued treatment and try to find a new psychatrist to continue my valium prescription and don't want my SSI and medicaid getting ****ed up if I show up as not having any kind of treatment.

But this place is managed so bad its ridiculous yet its like I'd be held accountable for their mis-management and **** ups and I'd be the one suffering consequences...feels like I really am trapped can't even get rightfully frusterated and say **** it for a few weeks and have some time to maybe switch treatment places or whatever without the possibility of having your only income and access to medical care(without going in further debt) taken away. Then I worry about can they do anything legally, can they label me 'treatment resistant' like in the sense I refuse treatment and should be confined to a psych ward or something at all times?

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Default Oct 17, 2014 at 02:39 AM
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Thats got to be so frustrating.
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Default Oct 17, 2014 at 02:42 AM
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It is and their 'therapy' so far has proven useless and more stress than it's worth...at least I have medicaid and am not paying for the crap out of pocket.

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Default Oct 17, 2014 at 02:52 AM
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Last one I had unexpectedly threw a huge stack of folders at me and scattered them all over the office. We were right in the middle of a session. I asked what the **** she did that for and she said to show me chaos is ok. All I said ok got me stuff and walked out. About an hour latter she called and wanted to know why I left so I told her "I'm done"

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Default Oct 17, 2014 at 02:57 AM
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I am quite certain all that would do if they did that would freak me out, and then I'd spend the rest of the session trying to calm myself or something if I don't end up breaking the room and everything in it...

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Default Oct 17, 2014 at 03:18 AM
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I guess this all brings up the question, if its in my record or whatever that I have mental problems...does that mean treatment could be forced if I was to say choose a path that did not involve mainstream medical treatment? I mean my diagnoses as far as I know is PTSD, Aspergers Syndrome, GAD and reoccurant Major depressive disorder with some avoident PD traits...at least that is what they've told me.

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Default Oct 17, 2014 at 04:42 AM
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They can only force you into a treatment plan via the corts if you can be labeled a danger to self or to others, and it has to be imminent, in the opinion of one or more psychiatrists - it's a bit complex. But I can't say what Medicaid or private insurance can coerce someone into doing to continue coverage - technically no, only the court can force treatment, but practically I can see being told "do X or your coverage is dropped".
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Default Oct 17, 2014 at 11:32 AM
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^Yeah not a game I really want to play but do I want to keep SSI? well yeah because realistically I cannot hope to function well enough to work at this point...either way I did get the appointment stuff kind of sorted out so that's good, but still sick of dealing with this place and still do not think the therapy will make much difference. But yeah I don't think any courts or anything would have any grounds to force anything I have been suicidal multiple times but currently that is not quite the case.

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I don't know about SSI rules, never dealt with that. They can/do monitor for changes in health status that can affect the ability to work???
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I don't know about SSI rules, never dealt with that. They can/do monitor for changes in health status that can affect the ability to work???
Yeah they kinda can, I mean its not like I am being watched...but SSI organization or whatever has access to medical records so what treatment I have gotten, am getting ect.....if I where to stop therapy and then that place also stopped my valium and trazodone prescriptions then SSI would be questioning if I'm still 'disabled' or not, they could argue I am not if I am not 'in treatment' if that makes sense.

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Yeah they kinda can, I mean its not like I am being watched...but SSI organization or whatever has access to medical records so what treatment I have gotten, am getting ect.....if I where to stop therapy and then that place also stopped my valium and trazodone prescriptions then SSI would be questioning if I'm still 'disabled' or not, they could argue I am not if I am not 'in treatment' if that makes sense.
SSI does not stop if a person is not in treatment. they dont watch a persons case and when treatment stops send out the sorry you are cut off SSI because you are not disabled.

Once a person is on SSI they are considered disabled until they are either holding down a job, or someone reports them for working under the table.

SSI does have periodic re certifications where they send out forms asking the recipient of the SSI if anything on their disability has changed. if so they ask on the forms what the change in their disability is. has it gotten better, has it gotten worse. Randomly they periodically ask the recipient to get a new disability assessment done where the recipient of the SSI must either have their treatment providers fill out the forms or go to the treatment providers supplied in the list that accompanies the forms at SSI's cost.

the only time SSI has stopped a persons SSI grants that I know of is when the person went to prison. And another committed SSI fraud by working full time job and still receiving SSI. And another case where the person forgot to recertify (mail in the paperwork)

Just to be sure I contacted SSI and they verified in no USA state do they stop SSI grants due to a person not being in treatment, dropping out of treatment or transferring their treatment to other treatment providers. they said they have many many people on SSI who are not in treatment of any kind, some homelss some not, some just gave up on treatment options, some terminal some not terminal. obtaining medical and mental health treatment is an americans right not a mandatory you have to be in treatment with one exception... if a court of law mandates a person into treatment they have no choice. but even this does not affect a persons SSI.
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That is all good to know, makes it significantly less stressful trying to deal with that situation.

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