No mention of men in domestic violence campaigns

unlived · Sep 05, 2015, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by emwell

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. But. I live in America. Right now my focus is on trying to figure out which candidate for president will screw up this country the least.

It may surprise you but there is a whole other world outside America and IT happens to live in it. This thread has nothing to do with the US president campaign!

Sep 06, 2015, 11:41 AM

Whilst the statistics strongly suggest women are more likely to be victims (even taking into account under reporting from men), I do agree it would be good to have a more holistic 'respect for everyone' approach in educating public/young people.

A friend had the awful experience of his volatile girlfriend losing her temper and shouting at him in public - a police officer came over and asked if she was alright and was my friend bothering her! My friend wouldn't harm a fly yet he was automatically assumed to be the threat because he was a man.

I think education about general healthy relationship communication skills would be good for all of us.

Hellion · Sep 12, 2015, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DarknessIsMyFriend

Where I live, one of the main shelters specifically states that they will not take single adult males but they don't say that they won't accept single adult females, children, or elders. I know that a lot of other places are like that too.

Even if many places wouldn't take single females, I still think that women (especially attractive ones) have an overwhelming advantage. They can garner the sympathy of just about anybody because of their looks and sexuality and get help easily should they be disadvantaged.

They can use their sexuality to make money (I'm not even talking about prostitution or any other kind of sex) to get ahead.

To give you an extreme example of what I mean: I actually knew a woman who used to be poor and lived in a cheap extended stay hotel and developed an income equal to a six figure salary off of anonymous web cam whoring (she wore a mask and didn't reveal any personally identifying information) and anonymously selling dirty underwear on the internet (there are actually men who pay $50+ for some woman's dirty panties and $100+ dollars for a special order such as semen stains, skid marks, or worn for several days). I'm dead serious, look it up if you don't believe me. The main website that does this even offer to pay via Amazon gift cards so the user can remain completely anonymous and only asks you to submit pictures of your body without your face in your underwear to prove that you're a female.

In short, even if a woman can't get help from the system, there is no excuse to be on the street as a female because of how big of an advantage that you have.

I'm not a sexist by any means and I believe that women deserve equal rights by all means, but I don't think it's fair that they have such a huge advantage over men.

I sort of see where you are coming from...in that there are better resources for women in poverty or who face abuse than there is for males. But to say because a women could make money via sexual exploits there is no excuse to be on the streets as a female is a bit much. I would be on the streets if my mom didn't let me stay at her house for 300$ a month...sexual activity/nudity in front of a webcam isn't my idea of how I'd want to make a living just not something I'd be comfortable with. I think in a lot of ways society does expect more from males and provides less support for males in difficult situations or abusive situations than females...but not so sure I think females as a whole have a huge advantage over men as a whole like as far as all aspects of life....but when it comes to being supported/helped by society it does seem there is an unfair advantage.

Hellion · Sep 12, 2015, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rose76

Men do get abused, and that should be talked about in a program of education. One thing you say is factually wrong. Physical abuse of women by men is a way, way bigger problem than physical abuse of men by women. There is a straightforward reason for that: males are far stronger than females, from about the age of 11. It's not a level playing field.

I do agree that teaching mutual respect should be part of these programs. Not everyone will agree with me, but I think that girls specifically need to be taught that they mature faster than boys and have a responsibility to use that to avoid being in risky situations with boys.

If you mean its more of a problem for women because more women statistically suffer physical abuse that would make sense.

But in individual cases that is not always the case...there are certainly some females physically stronger than some males for one. Its just simply not the case that all males are 'far' stronger than all females...that tends to be the norm but its not set in stone so not reliable to assume the male is stronger in all cases.

Also though abuse is just as serious whether its a man, woman or child being abused...like i don't think it's worse for a male to abuse a female than it would be for a female to abuse a male.

shortandcute · Sep 12, 2015, 06:31 PM

I know that poses a problem. I wish I knew a good answer for that.

Sep 17, 2015, 04:32 AM

This recent news story of domestic violence in our country is treated with humour, going by the picture in the article. Shocking double standard.

Woman who burnt cheating boyfriend?s penis with hair straightener gets suspended jail sentence | NT News

Rose76 · Sep 17, 2015, 08:47 PM

I've got to agree with you on this. If a man did something similar to a woman, he probably would have gone to jail.

As a woman who uses straightening appliances myself, I do not believe her claim that she didn't realize it would burn him badly. Those appliances get awfully hot. Sooner or later, anyone who uses them accidentally touches an ear or finger or part of the neck to the hot part and finds out that even one second of contact is very painful and will make you jump. That was a truly viscious thing to do.

I remember when there was that story in the news about the woman who cut off her husband's penis. That was treated as kind of a joke, too. Woman who do things like that cannot plausibly claim to be afraid of their male partners, IMO.

10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Illegal Toilet

This recent news story of domestic violence in our country is treated with humour, going by the picture in the article. Shocking double standard.

Woman who burnt cheating boyfriend?s penis with hair straightener gets suspended jail sentence | NT News

Dafuq?! Who the hell would "agree" to having something like that done to them? Are people that senseless? If a guy did such a thing to a woman's breasts or vagina, he would be treated as a monster and probably spend a decade in jail. Seriously?! And people still wonder why I hate society so much?! LOLOLOL

Personally, if a woman ever tried to do this to me, I'm sorry, but I would get physical and make her regret it. When one threatens potentially permanent bodily harm to you, it's time to drop all moral and ethical objections and defend yourself regardless of the gender of your attacker.

Artchic528 · Sep 17, 2015, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rose76

I've got to agree with you on this. If a man did something similar to a woman, he probably would have gone to jail.

As a woman who uses straightening appliances myself, I do not believe her claim that she didn't realize it would burn him badly. Those appliances get awfully hot. Sooner or later, anyone who uses them accidentally touches an ear or finger or part of the neck to the hot part and finds out that even one second of contact is very painful and will make you jump. That was a truly viscious thing to do.

I remember when there was that story in the news about the woman who cut off her husband's penis. That was treated as kind of a joke, too. Woman who do things like that cannot plausibly claim to be afraid of their male partners, IMO.

That would be Lorena Bobit. Mr. Bobit was having an affair and Lorena grew tired of it. She wanted to send a message to him, but apparently he now works as a adult film star. Guess her severing his penis, despite the severity of the situation, only served to give him a new lease on life.

If I am not mistaken, she spent jail time for that awful crime.

Rose76 · Sep 17, 2015, 11:33 PM

Thanks for remembering the name. I just checked. Lorena Bobit did not go to jail because the jury found her not guilty by reason of temporary insanity.

Artchic528 · Sep 17, 2015, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rose76

Thanks for remembering the name. I just checked. Lorena Bobit did not go to jail because the jury found her not guilty by reason of temporary insanity.

That doesn't seem right to me.

Rose76 · Sep 18, 2015, 09:01 AM

It didn't seemm right to me either.

Sep 26, 2015, 11:02 PM

The Prime Minister of Australia recently said that domestic violence is really just violence against women. So domestic violence against men officially doesn't even exist.

possum220 · Sep 27, 2015, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Illegal Toilet

This recent news story of domestic violence in our country is treated with humour, going by the picture in the article. Shocking double standard.

Woman who burnt cheating boyfriend?s penis with hair straightener gets suspended jail sentence | NT News

I find it hard to believe that two consenting adults doing this could be considered as abuse. They both agreed. (Though their level of intelligence raises serious issues of concern). Abuse to me means that one of the parties is an unwilling participant. The level of damage inflicted is horrendous.

As for Mr Rabbit T, please give the population of Australia a little more credit that they are able to see the world a little differently than our former pm. We all know that domestic violence occurs against males and females. It's a pity that the advertising has yet to catch up with reality............ but it will catch up.

Rose76 · Sep 27, 2015, 05:21 PM

You've got a valid point, Possum. That's probably why the judge didn't send her to jail.

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