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Old Mar 09, 2016, 12:03 PM
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sure, and sure that my words wouldn't be reponded,
anyway, i'd say, that the world is ruled most of time by unreasoning,
yes, motivation is important, but it is conditional,
only if you had developed basic living skills, then you can choose or be motivated,
to reach that, you need a certain amount of time and space for the experience to grow that basic living skills which make you set out your life,
in the motivation today, you probaly notice but they don't emphesis that the so call succesful figures all of them have caring parents and a really stable time for their recovery,
so the conclusion goes like this, i know no one has agreed with me on that till now, that one succeeds in nowadays depends largely on luck,
hope you well, op

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Old Mar 09, 2016, 12:39 PM
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I have often felt this way myself.
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Old Mar 09, 2016, 02:53 PM
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Old Mar 09, 2016, 10:38 PM
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I feel myself like I am not meant for this life. My experiences and genes don't allow me to live or have a normal life according to the rules of this world. I might be more appropriately fitting in a monastery's community if I am ready to give up the pleasures of life, but I am not religious. Am I damned for my own experiences and genes? I try not to be, but it seems futile, at least, so far. People keep implying that you can change if you want as if we want to live in misery. I am trying to be optimistic and tell others to be optimistic for change, but most of the time I am suspicious. I know it is not helpful for me or others, but I just wanted to say what I feel, because it bothers me.
I don't like to read the replies of others before responding to an original post, so I don't know what has been written, but here is my reply.

I'm 57 now and, to be honest, my first 35 years were pretty good. My physical health went first. My wife divorced me, I lost my mind and I lost my son. I spent over three years in mental hospitals. A few years free and then into a nursing home for eight years. I've "lost everything" three times now.

I've been out of the nursing home four years. Last year the severe depression and anxiety returned. I developed hallucinations again, social phobia and delusions.

I cannot imagine that I could be any more miserable than I am now. But I've been saying that for awhile now and I continue to sink deeper and deeper.

After my divorce, I gave serious thought to entering a monastery. I attended a high school seminary but I just wasn't cut out for the priesthood.

I feel the same as you now and have for about 12 years. All but one friend just wrote me off but he's in another state with his family now. I never had any outrageous goals: I wanted a similar life to that which I grew up. And I came so close. So close. I wanted the kind of life that most of my friends live now.

I don't know if I can say that the feeling of being unable to fit in now is a consequence of genetics and experiences... when I ask myself how I came to live in lunacy and misery, I just blame myself; thinking that I just screwed up numerous times to justify this horrifying existence.

I've heard that same crap, too: just change your way of thinking. It's the premise that Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is based on. Which is the main reason I don't buy into CBT. Claims of curing depression, without the use of drugs, in 8 easy sessions! Too much P.T. Barnum in it for me.

When I say that I'm not meant for this life, I mean that I'm not meant for the life that I'm leading now. I think that you mean life in a much broader term? I'm not sure about that; had I been born a Chinese peasant I might be happy as a clam (I've never understood that phrase – why are clams so happy?). I always liked to quote Kurt Vonnegut's Malachi Constant: "I was the victim of a series of accidents, as are we all." Despite my religious beliefs, I don't think that anyone is born with a purpose. Except to die, maybe; that's certainly a common purpose. Some are born only to die. Some are born privileged, some destitute. Some fit, some damaged. Maybe you're right about genetics shaping lives. I'm not sure what you mean by experiences, though?

Giving it some more thought, I don't know that your question has an answer; maybe theologians or philosophers could give you a better opinion. I think my final answer would be that anyone living is 'meant' to be living. Because we are. Whether we're happy, miserable or nuts depends on the accidents (incidents) from birth until death.

There's a Cistercian monastery not far from where I used to live and I used to take week-long retreats there. There were a couple of grumpy brothers but most of the men seemed so happy, peaceful and content. During the past 20 years or longer, I have wished that I had stayed. That wasn't an accident, but a decision. Another in the miles-long series of "what ifs."

I'm uncertain what you mean when you say that you're not religious. Your question sort of implies a kind of deism, at least. Whatever your beliefs, I'll say again, you are meant for life because you're living. I just wouldn't be looking for any special purpose.
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Old Mar 09, 2016, 11:11 PM
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OK, that is it. I am out of here. I didn't feel supported for one moment in these forums. People just want to criticize you, and expect you to be perfect. I despise the "Thanks" button and how it is being used, and it is the reason why I am leaving. I know it is my issues, and I will deal with them by myself. But supportive these forums weren't. Not for one moment I felt that way. Sorry, but I hope they are for others.
I suppose that I should have read some other responses before I replied. I'll go back and read them now.

I would rather have no response at all rather than a "Thanks" or "Hug" button. I think that they are juvenile and insulting. But I just let them slide generally knowing that the entirety of my messages aren't going to be read.

I really hope that you'll come back. I know that this site is dedicated to "support" and I suppose that a number of folks get support here. I don't really visit these forums for support: I ask questions, relay experiences looking for kindred souls, even just come here to vent. I guess you could call that support of a kind.

And I wish that you didn't feel like your issue(s) weren't shared by others and that you have to deal with them yourself. Please send me a message if you return.
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Old Mar 10, 2016, 02:37 AM
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Company is supportive. A certain amount of good time as being acccompanied is supportive. Want to join me?
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Old Mar 10, 2016, 03:45 AM
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Some movie lines.

World is battlefield.
Alone sucks.
The strength of two's is far bigger than that of one's.
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