[losthawk]

So this question has bothered me since i woke up, But the friends i thought i had pushed away and me had a discussion last night about what i said the night before, and while i thought i had pushed them away, they said the conversation had simply ended they didn't hate me, and my head had misread the situation and that they didn't hate me, i still feel horribly alone because i cant get the thought of "there just saying that" out my head, even though they messaged me first asking if i was ok? i had been real silent and they were worried. (normally ok me is messaging someone constantly until im asleep)

But that got me thinking, Why do people treat their and others mental health sometimes as less than physical?

Like, my friends told me that if i ever feel as bad as i did on friday to tell them, if i need to talk tell them, if my head wont let me have silence then to let them know and they will try to distract me as best they can, and to above all not do this alone. But, i still cant talk about it? I think ive said a tonne to them about it, but according to them i have ony given them a tiny bite size piece of what is going on in my head, but i dont feel they need to know?

If i had a broken leg (and when i have had physical injury's in the past) i would message them every few minutes just saying things like "my leg really hurts." "i cant walk" "this sucks guys, my legs causing me serious issue"

Yet with mental i dont feel its easy like that of a physical injury to go up to your friends or family etc and say "my head is making me suicidal again" "i cant cope with the voices right now, they wont shut up".

Is it the stigma in society that mental is less than physical? that because we cant see it even sometimes the people who have mental illnesses write them off? because there isn't a cast to sign, a wound to patch up, a crutch to walk on?

[BipolarMama31]

The stigma where i live is awful.
With a broken bone drs can take an xray, see the problem, and have a laid out standard plan to fix the problem.
With mental health, it is hard to see in others sometimes and the path to treating is so complex, even from one dr to another.
Sounds like you do have support, even though they may not fully understand, at least they didnt push you away and care for you as a friend the best they can.
I feel for your frustration and i totally get it.

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[*Laurie*]

I so agree with you. The problem is ignorance and stigma.

[apoplexy]

Originally Posted by losthawk

So this question has bothered me since i woke up, But the friends i thought i had pushed away and me had a discussion last night about what i said the night before, and while i thought i had pushed them away, they said the conversation had simply ended they didn't hate me, and my head had misread the situation and that they didn't hate me, i still feel horribly alone because i cant get the thought of "there just saying that" out my head, even though they messaged me first asking if i was ok? i had been real silent and they were worried. (normally ok me is messaging someone constantly until im asleep)

But that got me thinking, Why do people treat their and others mental health sometimes as less than physical?

Like, my friends told me that if i ever feel as bad as i did on friday to tell them, if i need to talk tell them, if my head wont let me have silence then to let them know and they will try to distract me as best they can, and to above all not do this alone. But, i still cant talk about it? I think ive said a tonne to them about it, but according to them i have ony given them a tiny bite size piece of what is going on in my head, but i dont feel they need to know?

If i had a broken leg (and when i have had physical injury's in the past) i would message them every few minutes just saying things like "my leg really hurts." "i cant walk" "this sucks guys, my legs causing me serious issue"

Yet with mental i dont feel its easy like that of a physical injury to go up to your friends or family etc and say "my head is making me suicidal again" "i cant cope with the voices right now, they wont shut up".

Is it the stigma in society that mental is less than physical? that because we cant see it even sometimes the people who have mental illnesses write them off? because there isn't a cast to sign, a wound to patch up, a crutch to walk on?

Your friends sound very chill. They don't have your illnesses and cant be inside your head so if you want them to know, tell them and talk about it. But they can't read your mind.

In terms of society, society is predominantly not mentally ill -- this enables the majority to stigmatize the minority. That being said, in my opinion, if the minority doesn't eventually stand up the way the LGBT community has stood up and decimated the stigma, then they have nobody to blame but themselves.

I've been in the national newspaper about my mental health issues, I talk about them openly with friends and strangers, I'm on YouTube, etc etc. I'm meeting politicians to get productive plans in place, reaching out to media, yadda yadda.

The mentally ill people who do nothing to break the stigma are in fact a large part of why we are still stigmatized. If a bunch of these people don't develop a backbone -- it's going to continue to be a rough ride for the mentally ill population as a whole.

The definition of disorder:
a disruption of normal physical or mental functions; a disease or abnormal condition.
plural noun: disorders
"eating disorders"
synonyms: disease, infection, complaint, condition, affliction, malady, sickness, illness, ailment, infirmity, irregularity
"a blood disorder"

Even the dictionary understands that mental illness is no different than physical illness. Why is it so hard for the rest of world to see that, I don't know

Agree that it's ignorance and stigma. I also live with it and I empathize with you.

Most people attribute the distinction of mind and body to French philosopher Rene Descartes. Descartes believed that the mind and body were distinct. In other words, he believed that the mind and body were independent of each other. His mind-body dualism has been disproved many times, yet it still survives. For example, moving limbs (or a reflex) and our sensory organs disprove the thesis. Thus it's a false premise to divide health (physical and mental). In truth, there is only health.

I hope that in the near future we'll view diabetes as similarly situated to depression.

[avlady]

in my experience things see~ to be getting better. my last hospital stay was much more comfortable and inviting. what we have here is better too.