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for those that are confused because of losing this diagnosis or that one or being diagnosed with something they didnt think they had or are trying to self diagnose ....
if you are here in america (USA) in 2013 the mental health system including diagnosis labeling, symptoms, testing procedures and tests have gone through massive changes. for example you may find on the internet a diagnosis label containing the letters ....nos.... thats one of the huge changes here in america. the "nos" diagnosis's no longer exist. every nos diagnosis has been thrown out. everything they were has been added to other mental disorders or have been developed into a completely new mental disorder. those here in america with a past diagnosis containing nos have no fear. its an easy fix, just contact your treatment providers and they will tell you what your new diagnosis label is, it may be just a matter of removing the letters nos or you may have a completely new diagnosis label that better explains your problems. heres where I see posters confusion if it doesnt exist why do I keep seeing the non existent mental disorders on the internet.... because whats on the internet remains on the internet forever, thats how cyberspace works. and because other countries outside the USA may still use the diagnostic labels containing nos. each country has their own standards and what they call each mental disorder. it may not match with the USA if they are not using the DSM 5 to diagnose their patients. tip for those who feel they need to self diagnose (hey we all know someone somewhere in life right) or are confused there is now a complete listing of what mental disorders recognized here in america. (what that means is if you go to a treatment provider and go through the diagnostics these are the mental disorders that treatment providers must use in diagnosing someone here in america.) you find the list by typing into your search bar the words... DSM 5 table of contents. example if someone is looking for say eating disorders here in america they type in DSM 5 table of contents, then scan down the list of mental disorders to feeding and eating disorders category. if someone is looking for PTSD related mental disorders they type in DSM 5 table of contents then scan down through the list of mental disorders until they come to the trauma and stress related mental disorders. my point of making this post is that I find in my posting I have been suggesting more often then not that someone to contact their treatment providers when I see a nos disorder in their list of mental disorders or posts. and they are here in america. i do this because with the new standards new treatments are now available that were not available because of the nos labeling. I hate seeing people struggling when so much can be done to help them just by getting their past diagnosis's updated to the new standards, labels and treatments. so I got to wondering that maybe its not widely known yet that the nos diagnosis's are gone now in america and that with out this diagnosis label theres more out there. people with past nos no longer have to feel they dont fit in anywhere. you do fit in now with the new diagnostics and there is help out there for you. Im posting from my work computer so i am unable to attach the link (it will download on the work computer) to the dsm 5 table of contents. sorry for that. |
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for those that can not or do not want to download the information on the computer here is the DSM 5 table of contents list of mental disorders here in the USA. the categories are in bold and the mental disorders in that category are listed underneath the bold title.
Section II: Diagnostic Criteria and Codes Neurodevelopmental Disorders Intellectual Disabilities Intellectual Disability (Intellectual Developmental Disorder) Global Developmental Delay Unspecified Intellectual Disability (Intellectual Developmental Disorder) Communication Disorders Language Disorder Speech Sound Disorder (previously Phonological Disorder) Childhood-Onset Fluency Disorder (Stuttering) Social (Pragmatic) Communication Disorder Unspecified Communication Disorder Autism Spectrum Disorder Autism Spectrum Disorder Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder Other Specified Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder Unspecified Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder Specific Learning Disorder Specific Learning Disorder Motor Disorders Developmental Coordination Disorder Stereotypic Movement Disorder Tic Disorders Tourette’s Disorder Persistent (Chronic) Motor or Vocal Tic Disorder Provisional Tic Disorder Other Specified Tic Disorder Unspecified Tic Disorder Other Neurodevelopmental Disorders Other Specified Neurodevelopmental Disorder Unspecified Neurodevelopmental Disorder 2 • DSM-5 Table of Contents Schizophrenia Spectrum and Other Psychotic Disorders Schizotypal (Personality) Disorder Delusional Disorder Brief Psychotic Disorder Schizophreniform Disorder Schizophrenia Schizoaffective Disorder Substance/Medication-Induced Psychotic Disorder Psychotic Disorder Due to Another Medical Condition Catatonia Catatonia Associated With Another Mental Disorder (Catatonia Specifier) Catatonic Disorder Due to Another Medical Condition Unspecified Catatonia Other Specified Schizophrenia Spectrum and Other Psychotic Disorder Unspecified Schizophrenia Spectrum and Other Psychotic Disorder Bipolar and Related Disorders Bipolar I Disorder Bipolar II Disorder Cyclothymic Disorder Substance/Medication-Induced Bipolar and Related Disorder Bipolar and Related Disorder Due to Another Medical Condition Other Specified Bipolar and Related Disorder Unspecified Bipolar and Related Disorder Depressive Disorders Disruptive Mood Dysregulation Disorder Major Depressive Disorder, Single and Recurrent Episodes Persistent Depressive Disorder (Dysthymia) Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder Substance/Medication-Induced Depressive Disorder Depressive Disorder Due to Another Medical Condition Other Specified Depressive Disorder Unspecified Depressive Disorder Anxiety Disorders Separation Anxiety Disorder Selective Mutism Specific Phobia Social Anxiety Disorder (Social Phobia) Panic Disorder Panic Attack (Specifier) Agoraphobia Generalized Anxiety Disorder DSM-5 Table of Contents • 3 Substance/Medication-Induced Anxiety Disorder Anxiety Disorder Due to Another Medical Condition Other Specified Anxiety Disorder Unspecified Anxiety Disorder Obsessive-Compulsive and Related Disorders Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder Body Dysmorphic Disorder Hoarding Disorder Trichotillomania (Hair-Pulling Disorder) Excoriation (Skin-Picking) Disorder Substance/Medication-Induced Obsessive-Compulsive and Related Disorder Obsessive-Compulsive and Related Disorder Due to Another Medical Condition Other Specified Obsessive-Compulsive and Related Disorder Unspecified Obsessive-Compulsive and Related Disorder Trauma- and Stressor-Related Disorders Reactive Attachment Disorder Disinhibited Social Engagement Disorder Posttraumatic Stress Disorder Acute Stress Disorder Adjustment Disorders Other Specified Trauma- and Stressor-Related Disorder Unspecified Trauma- and Stressor-Related Disorder Dissociative Disorders Dissociative Identity Disorder Dissociative Amnesia Depersonalization/Derealization Disorder Other Specified Dissociative Disorder Unspecified Dissociative Disorder Somatic Symptom and Related Disorders Somatic Symptom Disorder Illness Anxiety Disorder Conversion Disorder (Functional Neurological Symptom Disorder) Psychological Factors Affecting Other Medical Conditions Factitious Disorder Other Specified Somatic Symptom and Related Disorder Unspecified Somatic Symptom and Related Disorder Feeding and Eating Disorders Pica Rumination Disorder Avoidant/Restrictive Food Intake Disorder Anorexia Nervosa 4 • DSM-5 Table of Contents Bulimia Nervosa Binge-Eating Disorder Other Specified Feeding or Eating Disorder Unspecified Feeding or Eating Disorder Elimination Disorders Enuresis Encopresis Other Specified Elimination Disorder Unspecified Elimination Disorder Sleep-Wake Disorders Insomnia Disorder Hypersomnolence Disorder Narcolepsy Breathing-Related Sleep Disorders Obstructive Sleep Apnea Hypopnea Central Sleep Apnea Sleep-Related Hypoventilation Circadian Rhythm Sleep-Wake Disorders Parasomnias Non–Rapid Eye Movement Sleep Arousal Disorders Sleepwalking Sleep Terrors Nightmare Disorder Rapid Eye Movement Sleep Behavior Disorder Restless Legs Syndrome Substance/Medication-Induced Sleep Disorder Other Specified Insomnia Disorder Unspecified Insomnia Disorder Other Specified Hypersomnolence Disorder Unspecified Hypersomnolence Disorder Other Specified Sleep-Wake Disorder Unspecified Sleep-Wake Disorder Sexual Dysfunctions Delayed Ejaculation Erectile Disorder Female Orgasmic Disorder Female Sexual Interest/Arousal Disorder Genito-Pelvic Pain/Penetration Disorder DSM-5 Table of Contents • 5 Male Hypoactive Sexual Desire Disorder Premature (Early) Ejaculation Substance/Medication-Induced Sexual Dysfunction Other Specified Sexual Dysfunction Unspecified Sexual Dysfunction Gender Dysphoria Gender Dysphoria Other Specified Gender Dysphoria Unspecified Gender Dysphoria Disruptive, Impulse-Control, and Conduct Disorders Oppositional Defiant Disorder Intermittent Explosive Disorder Conduct Disorder Antisocial Personality Disorder Pyromania Kleptomania Other Specified Disruptive, Impulse-Control, and Conduct Disorder Unspecified Disruptive, Impulse-Control, and Conduct Disorder Substance-Related and Addictive Disorders Substance-Related Disorders Substance Use Disorders Substance-Induced Disorders Substance Intoxication and Withdrawal Substance/Medication-Induced Mental Disorders Alcohol-Related Disorders Alcohol Use Disorder Alcohol Intoxication Alcohol Withdrawal Other Alcohol-Induced Disorders Unspecified Alcohol-Related Disorder Caffeine-Related Disorders Caffeine Intoxication Caffeine Withdrawal Other Caffeine-Induced Disorders Unspecified Caffeine-Related Disorder Cannabis-Related Disorders Cannabis Use Disorder Cannabis Intoxication Cannabis Withdrawal Other Cannabis-Induced Disorders 6 • DSM-5 Table of Contents Unspecified Cannabis-Related Disorder Hallucinogen-Related Disorders Phencyclidine Use Disorder Other Hallucinogen Use Disorder Phencyclidine Intoxication Other Hallucinogen Intoxication Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder Other Phencyclidine-Induced Disorders Other Hallucinogen-Induced Disorders Unspecified Phencyclidine-Related Disorder Unspecified Hallucinogen-Related Disorder Inhalant-Related Disorders Inhalant Use Disorder Inhalant Intoxication Other Inhalant-Induced Disorders Unspecified Inhalant-Related Disorder Opioid-Related Disorders Opioid Use Disorder Opioid Intoxication Opioid Withdrawal Other Opioid-Induced Disorders Unspecified Opioid-Related Disorder Sedative-, Hypnotic-, or Anxiolytic-Related Disorders Sedative, Hypnotic, or Anxiolytic Use Disorder Sedative, Hypnotic, or Anxiolytic Intoxication Sedative, Hypnotic, or Anxiolytic Withdrawal Other Sedative-, Hypnotic-, or Anxiolytic-Induced Disorders Unspecified Sedative-, Hypnotic-, or Anxiolytic-Related Disorder Stimulant-Related Disorders Stimulant Use Disorder Stimulant Intoxication Stimulant Withdrawal Other Stimulant-Induced Disorders Unspecified Stimulant-Related Disorder Tobacco-Related Disorders Tobacco Use Disorder Tobacco Withdrawal Other Tobacco-Induced Disorders Unspecified Tobacco-Related Disorder DSM-5 Table of Contents • 7 Other (or Unknown) Substance–Related Disorders Other (or Unknown) Substance Use Disorder Other (or Unknown) Substance Intoxication Other (or Unknown) Substance Withdrawal Other (or Unknown) Substance–Induced Disorders Unspecified Other (or Unknown) Substance–Related Disorder Non-Substance-Related Disorders Gambling Disorder Neurocognitive Disorders Delirium Other Specified Delirium Unspecified Delirium Major and Mild Neurocognitive Disorders Major Neurocognitive Disorder Mild Neurocognitive Disorder Major or Mild Neurocognitive Disorder Due to Alzheimer’s Disease Major or Mild Frontotemporal Neurocognitive Disorder Major or Mild Neurocognitive Disorder With Lewy Bodies Major or Mild Vascular Neurocognitive Disorder Major or Mild Neurocognitive Disorder Due to Traumatic Brain Injury Substance/Medication-Induced Major or Mild Neurocognitive Disorder Major or Mild Neurocognitive Disorder Due to HIV Infection Major or Mild Neurocognitive Disorder Due to Prion Disease Major or Mild Neurocognitive Disorder Due to Parkinson’s Disease Major or Mild Neurocognitive Disorder Due to Huntington’s Disease Major or Mild Neurocognitive Disorder Due to Another Medical Condition Major or Mild Neurocognitive Disorder Due to Multiple Etiologies Unspecified Neurocognitive Disorder Personality Disorders General Personality Disorder Cluster A Personality Disorders Paranoid Personality Disorder Schizoid Personality Disorder Schizotypal Personality Disorder Cluster B Personality Disorders Antisocial Personality Disorder Borderline Personality Disorder Histrionic Personality Disorder Narcissistic Personality Disorder Cluster C Personality Disorders Avoidant Personality Disorder Dependent Personality Disorder Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder 8 • DSM-5 Table of Contents Other Personality Disorders Personality Change Due to Another Medical Condition Other Specified Personality Disorder Unspecified Personality Disorder Paraphilic Disorders Voyeuristic Disorder Exhibitionistic Disorder Frotteuristic Disorder Sexual Masochism Disorder Sexual Sadism Disorder Pedophilic Disorder Fetishistic Disorder Transvestic Disorder Other Specified Paraphilic Disorder Unspecified Paraphilic Disorder Other Mental Disorders Other Specified Mental Disorder Due to Another Medical Condition Unspecified Mental Disorder Due to Another Medical Condition Other Specified Mental Disorder Unspecified Mental Disorder Medication-Induced Movement Disorders and Other Adverse Effects of Medication |
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now to understand a couple changes in the wording of the diagnostic labels....
the terms ..... other specified.....means you have a disorder that is not on the list. the treatment provider must list on your files what that other specified disorder is.... example if conversion disorder was not on the list above, the treatment provider would write the words other specified ..... disorder then next to that they would write conversion disorder. the mental disorders wrote in here under this label must exist here in the USA they cant just slap any old label on you, for example nos diagnosis labeling no longer exists here in the USA so they can not write in that you have a nos disorder. unspecified ....means a treatment provider feels you are presenting with the symptoms that fit this category but do not meet the full diagnostics for any ....one... of the listed disorders, they do not have to state ....why... you do not meet the diagnostic criteria for any one mental disorder. example a person being diagnosed for dissociative disorders. they have alternate personalities but the alters do not seem to be that of dissociative type alters. a treatment provider can diagnose the person as having unspecified dissociative disorder and not tell the client that their alters do not fit the DID type alters and not place in the files that the client is presenting as DID but the alters are not dissociative type, and they do not have enough information to make a definitive diagnosis. this term is most if not always used in emergency settings like in the Emergency Room. in the DSM 5 each of these mental disorders have 5 or more pages that describe and give more information about each mental disorder. Here in this thread what is contained here is just the basic list of mental disorders for the ...USA....other locations many have other disorders not on the list or labeled differently. for the in depth information (diagnostic criteria, symptoms, and other data) about each of the mental disorders please contact your treatment providers or your local library's copy of the DSM 5. |
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Kinda funny how can a disorder be voted and in out of existence, right?
Sorta funny how people insist it's all sciency and all (don't get me even start on chemical imbalance ****), but then it varies across borders how it is labeled. Does it mean crossing borders makes stuff to your brain that changes your "scientifically proven illnesses"? It's not even like there is new discoveries, except all the "exciting" ones that fizzle out in few months and we are where we started. DSM is just voted on. Doesn't say much in favor of psychiatry, does it?
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So what will the APA do? Toss their flawed philosophy?
My comment was rather comment on the whole way of labeling and why we should not give so much meaning to our labels.... when they can be voted in and out by bunch of guys who don't cope with them in their lifes but have Pharma money influencing their decision.
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the list above isnt for everyone. this is just for those in the USA or other locations that use the DSM 5 for diagnostic purposes. how much meaning someone puts in their mental disorders is up to each individual person. some welcome their diagnosis because it answers questions and opens the door for better treatment options others may not put any meaning into their mental disorders and others may be somewhere in between the two. |
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People love to bash the DSM and psychiatry/psychology in general for labeling normal behavior as a disorder, and for ever-expanding the list of mental conditions. I'm looking through these and I'm surprised by how many of these are really quite medical in nature (anything neurocognitive, or severe withdrawal symptoms). I wasa little weirded out by how various types of withdrawal are listed with psychological problems, but then again, it could just be a formality.
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So please dont be surprised if in the next year or two your treatment provider makes changes to your files stating the DSM 5 equivalent of your present diagnosis of leaving off the nos. that is if you are located with in the USA, outside the USA they may or may not be using the DSM 5. most if not all treatment providers in the USA are now on the DSM 5, at least thats what those that attended the recent seminar\ workshop I attended. those in attendance were from various states around the USA. here in NY all treatment providers are now on the DSM 5 standards according to the last mental health statistical reports from the state. Last edited by amandalouise; Nov 17, 2016 at 08:43 PM. |
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I'm confused...isn't NOS (for example, Bipolar NOS) 'not otherwise specified'?
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using your example (bipolar disorder nos)... depending upon ones own individualized symptoms\problems and accompanying symptoms\problems..... what used to be called bipolar disorder nos would transfer over to one of the following .... Bipolar and Related Disorders Bipolar I Disorder Bipolar II Disorder Cyclothymic Disorder Substance/Medication-Induced Bipolar and Related Disorder Bipolar and Related Disorder Due to Another Medical Condition Other Specified Bipolar and Related Disorder Unspecified Bipolar and Related Disorder (the term unspecified with a mental disorder is now used for emergency diagnosis situations like someone who is in crisis in the ER then when the patient sees their regular treatment provider the diagnosis changes from unspecified to one of the other mental disorders in the same category.) the term other specified means the treatment provider thinks another bipolar disorder or bipolar disorder symptom you have but not others that would get you diagnosed with one of the others. when a treatment provider uses this label they must specify what other bipolar related mental disorder symptom you have... example my bipolar disorder is called bipolar disorder with psychotic features. (the other specified part of my diagnosis is psychotic features) which means when my meds are not working besides having mania, hypo mania and depression I get hallucinations and delusions. my psychosis symptoms do not fall into the category of schizophrenia and psychosis disorders because its related to my having bipolar disorder. in other words the new diagnostics and labeling system allows treatment providers to mix and match to make a better diagnosis and treatment options. if you would like to know what your nos diagnostics\ diagnosis transfers over to in the new presently used standards you can contact your own treatment provider. |
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Thank you sooo much for this post it is enlightning!!
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My beef with the DSM is that each condition is defined primarily by symptoms or behaviors--and to make it worse, their understanding of the symptoms seems kind of sketchy at times. (Compare the way it's often done for non-psychiatric conditions: Your doctor might diagnose/treat you based purely on symptoms, but a more objective definition of the disease exists. This matters for treatment research and for situations where the symptom-based diagnosis is more complicated.) But, the DSM5 didn't make it any worse than the DSM4, and the ICD, which is used in other parts of the world, has the same problem.
I've heard the National Institute of Mental Health is working on their own system, which will be based on biomarkers, but it won't be ready for like ten years. ![]() Anyhow, if anyone's interested in knowing the specifics of each condition (for curiosity or for self-diagnostic purposes), both the PsychCentral main site and Wikipedia are a convenient places to start, especially for the more well-known conditions. They don't generally have the full DSM text because it's copyrighted. However, sometimes you can do an internet search of a condition name followed by "dsm5 criteria" to find quoted text. I'm guessing you could find the DSM5 in a library too, but I haven't tried. It costs like $200 if you want to buy it. Quote:
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All the paraphilic disorders in the DSM-5 have a criteria of "a paraphilia that is currently causing distress or impairment to the individual or a paraphilia whose satisfaction has entailed personal harm, or risk of harm, to others." (This is actually an improvement over the previous DSMs which didn't make a clear distinction.) Even if someone has some weird taste/paraphilia which theoretically entails a lack of consent, that doesn't automatically mean they go around harming people. That's true of pedophilia too. I think this pretty well illustrates where the general anti-psychiatry argument of pathologizing normal things comes from... People see a diagnostic label like "[perfectly normal thing or quality] Disorder" and for some reason assume psychiatrists are declaring that perfectly normal thing/quality to be a disorder, but they are actually identifying a miserable and potentially life-ruining problem which relates to that normal thing/quality. There's not much they can do with the names to prevent this problem. One of my diagnoses has a name like "[normal]-Deficit/Hyper[normal] Disorder"--the bad parts in that name outnumber the normal parts three to two--and I still see people thinking it refers to something normal! (I actually dislike the name of ADHD because I feel it's too specific, and likewise the criteria is too narrow, but even if they came up with a name/criteria I liked better, I'm sure it would still have this issue. That, or people wouldn't understand it at all.) Of course, I'm not saying the APA is immune to accidentally pathologizing normal things due to cultural bias (e.g. homosexuality used to be listed until one of the revisions of the DSM2), but I think it's a much smaller problem than people make it out to be, especially since they specify impairment/distress/etc in the criteria of most things. Even if they mistakenly believe XYZ is bad, you probably won't meet their criteria for XYZ disorder unless XYZ is actually causing some problems. (Of course, a clinician misdiagnosing you with XYZ Disorder because they've personally decided it's a problem is still an issue.) Quote:
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For the DSM4-to-DSM5 changes being discussed, they aren't really adding or removing disorders, so much as renaming or recategorizing things. Like, if you used to have "Bipolar Disorder Not Otherwise Specified," you now have "Other Specified Bipolar and Related Disorder" (or possibly one of the other more-specific ones). No one should be looking at that situation and concluding that the nature of your mental health has changed. My psychiatrist gave me two simultaneous diagnoses for my depression. I only have one depression, as far as I know, but there weren't any diagnostic labels that fully encompassed how it manifests in my case, and I met the criteria for two conditions, so I got both. I guess that's how medical coding works in general, though? Like, I got my records from my PCP, and I saw that there were very frequently things like this: ASSESSMENT: 719.47 Right Ankle Pain 729.5 Right Foot Pain 845.09 Right Ankle sprain (In this example, I only had one injury.) Non-psychiatric diseases are sometimes newly discovered, renamed, or re-categorized, and no one thinks those are fake. (Okay, sometimes people do think they are fake... but can we agree that those people are dumb?) Acute viral nasopharyngitis (AKA nasopharyngitis AKA viral rhinitis AKA rhinopharyngitis AKA common cold) was described in some documents created in 1550 BC, it was named "cold" in the 16th Century AD, and the actual rhinovirus wasn't discovered until I think the 1900's. Does that mean the common cold doesn't exist? There have been some news articles declaring a "new" disease called "bagpipe lung," but it's actually a new name for hypersensitivity pneumonitis, which is not new. The patient's exposure to the antigen that causes the condition usually has something to do with their hobby or occupation, so it has all kinds of dumb names like bird fancier's lung, hot tub lung, Maple bark disease, sequoiosis, bagassosis, and detergent worker's disease. Crossing borders might cause doctors to use a different name for your condition, but even if they call it the same thing in words, they will have a different numerical code for it if they are using a different system.
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