[CountingCrows]

Dear PsychCentral Members,

First of all, I apologize if this is not the right place to post, my first time here. Please help move to the proper location.

I need to learn the clinical term for a person that fits this criteria (he is driving me insane):

1) The person 50+

2) The person spends all his time in a stock brokerage forum.

3) The person took over the forum. He replies everyone's posts. He constantly overexaggerates the company and he tries to influence others (he has little money, it is not about profiting from the stock). He does not want anything bad about the company be written at all (even if it is real).

4) The person constantly denies what he has written about influencing the people. I have placed the links to his own posts showing he advised others to buy the stock... He denies it.

He says "You are slandering me" even when I put the proof of his lies.

He carries on with the same lies... Again show the proof, he says the same thing.

5) The person writes about the same freaking thing over and over and over and over every freaking day 30 times last 8 months (split, dividend, foreign ownership, etc)

6) The person exaggaretes what he has. For example, someone asked "What program are you using for tech analysis?". He said "It is written specifically for me". When I put the name of the program... after 3 days he is still saying "It is written only for me!".

This person is driving me SERIOUSLY INSANE!

Is there a clinical term (and treatment) for this?

Many thanks!




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[Skeezyks]

Hello Counting: I see this is your first post here on PC. So... welcome to PsychCentral!

I'm sorry but we here on PC cannot diagnose the person you describe. Mental health diagnosis is just not that simple. And most of us, here on PC, are consumers of mental health services, not mental health professionals. Our purpose is to provide one another with support, to exchange information & share experiences.

However, from what you wrote, it sounds as though you may be dealing with quite a difficult individual. So here are links to some articles from PsychCentral's archives on the topic of dealing with toxic people. Perhaps something in them may be of some help:

https://psychcentral.com/blog/whats-...deal-with-one/

https://psychcentral.com/lib/11-thin...-toxic-people/

https://psychcentral.com/blog/5-ways...ficult-people/

https://blogs.psychcentral.com/unsha...-toxic-people/

https://blogs.psychcentral.com/lever...-toxic-people/

https://blogs.psychcentral.com/life-...coworker-tips/

I wish you well...

Sounds like he's obnoxious. Not sure there's a treatment for that. Sorry you're frustrated.

[CountingCrows]

Skeezyks, I understand it is difficult, but this should fit some patterns. I searched "Compulsive Lying Disorder", etc... but for sure there must be some clinical terms for this (So that I can research more).

I am not trying to give or get doctor's advice from internet.

I am just trying to understand what the bloody hell he is.

[CountingCrows]

Thanks SadGirl, but I am positive there is something more appropriate for what he is.

[CountingCrows]

Skeezkys, also I am not trying to deal with him. I am already dealing with him. I just want to know what he is.

[CountingCrows]

Or perhaps from another angle:

What would a person "who is trying to win the approval of everyone over internet, but who has achieved nothing in life" called?

[seesaw]

I think the clinical terms you are looking for are: overbearing, rude, control freak, and annoying...Although I'm not sure if those are clinical or not.

He also sounds a bit like a bully. Online forums can bring out the bully in people, because of the nature of anonymous chatting. You won't find much of that here as it is against the entire nature of this site. Even if you're not suffering from a mental illness yourself, this can be a good place to learn about communication skills and relationships.

Seesaw

I don't understand why you are looking for us to tell you what mental illness he may have. Maybe he has one, maybe he's just an annoying person. I very much doubt anyone here will encourage you to label someone else.

[seesaw]

No one here can diagnose him, and I would say most would refrain from diagnosing him. Why? Because we are not psychologist, psychiatrists or counselors, and the only information we have is from you and you don't know him IRL. We have all dealt with others trying to label us based on limited information, so we aren't going to promote it.

Why is it important to label him anyhow? You know what the issues are in dealing with him. If you are looking for how to deal with him, ask those questions.

There are plenty of messed up people out there who don't fit an clinical diagnosis, by the way. Just because someone has some traits, it doesn't mean they have a mental illness.

[FallDuskTrain]

Can you share some other examples besides his behavior on the internet? I will and cannot provide a diagnosis but we can at least have a better under of what you are dealing with.

[CountingCrows]

If I am lying all the time, I might be called a "Pathological Liar", I might have "Compuslive Lying Disorder", etc. I was merely asking what someone like this is called so I might research what else can be beneficial to the situation.

I got the point here.

I paid $35 and asked a psychiatrist and got my answer. There is a clinical term for these kind of people as I imagined.

[FallDuskTrain]

Originally Posted by CountingCrows

If I am lying all the time, I might be called a "Pathological Liar", I might have "Compuslive Lying Disorder", etc. I was merely asking what someone like this is called so I might research what else can be beneficial to the situation.

I got the point here.

I paid $35 and asked a psychiatrist and got my answer. There is a clinical term for these kind of people as I imagined.

Ok.
What is it? Could you educate us?

[seesaw]

Originally Posted by FallDuskTrain

Ok.
What is it? Could you educate us?

I'm surprised a reputable psychiatrist would give you a diagnosis on someone they have never met.

I also think it's interesting that you are obsessed enough with this that you would pay a psychiatrist to get what is likely a false diagnosis for someone you don't know in real life.

You also seem very angry with us that we wouldn't give you a Dx when we explained to you that none of us here are psychiatrists or psychologists. Why the need to be right?

[nicoleflynn]

Treat him like an obnoxious child...ignore him.

[*Laurie*]

The person could be anything from a jerk to a paranoid schizophrenic. It is absolutely impossible to even guess at what his issue really is.

[CountingCrows]

I am sorry but you have taken this to whole different levels. You said "there is no bullying here" and yet you are bullying me (that is fine, I don't really care).

I was trying to learn what he is. I am not the patient, I am not treating any person (although I'd like to know if there is a cure).

When someone tells me: "I have tootache."

I will tell him:

a) You have tooth decay
b) You have apthous ulcers
c) You have sinusitis

I am not going to go and remove his tooth without investigating further. But "tooth decay" would be the most common one.

That is what I was asking. Anyone with average IQ can guess that you can't diagnose an illness online, let alone treat it. But you can at least guess what it could be.

This was just for my information (psychiatrist knew this as well). and I assumed some of you experienced a similar thing, or has knowledge about what it is.

I also did not mean to offend anyone. But this "lunatic" is driving me insane

[seesaw]

Originally Posted by CountingCrows

I am sorry but you have taken this to whole different levels. You said "there is no bullying here" and yet you are bullying me (that is fine, I don't really care).

I was trying to learn what he is. I am not the patient, I am not treating any person (although I'd like to know if there is a cure).

When someone tells me: "I have tootache."

I will tell him:

a) You have tooth decay
b) You have apthous ulcers
c) You have sinusitis

I am not going to go and remove his tooth without investigating further. But "tooth decay" would be the most common one.

That is what I was asking. Anyone with average IQ can guess that you can't diagnose an illness online, let alone treat it. But you can at least guess what it could be.

This was just for my information (psychiatrist knew this as well). and I assumed some of you experienced a similar thing, or has knowledge about what it is.

I also did not mean to offend anyone. But this "lunatic" is driving me insane

I get it...truly...So, as mental health patients, most of us just do not feel comfortable making a diagnosis, nor are we qualified, which is why you go the response you did. But we are very adept at communicating with people with mental illness. Can you share with us what you think his disorder may be or a specific situation with him that you need help and we can provide you some advice that way?

[possum220]

Originally Posted by CountingCrows

I also did not mean to offend anyone. But this "lunatic" is driving me insane

There have been times in my life where I have been so annoyed at others. Regardless of the level of my annoyance it wouldn't go away until I identified what my own deeper issue was and then my annoyance level went from a 10 to maybe one or two and then I could address that.

One issue was that I felt like I wasn't being listened to. On another occasion it was that I was I saw myself in that person and I didn't like it.

When I get really annoyed now I start to look for the why am I so annoyed. It may not come to me straight way but it will come. Maybe it's not a matter of needing to know what their problem is but more of a why are you so annoyed? What is at the bottom of that?

In the meantime I hope you can put some space between yourself and this other person just to get some relief.

[CountingCrows]

Originally Posted by possum220

There have been times in my life where I have been so annoyed at others. Regardless of the level of my annoyance it wouldn't go away until I identified what my own deeper issue was and then my annoyance level went from a 10 to maybe one or two and then I could address that.

One issue was that I felt like I wasn't being listened to. On another occasion it was that I was I saw myself in that person and I didn't like it.

When I get really annoyed now I start to look for the why am I so annoyed. It may not come to me straight way but it will come. Maybe it's not a matter of needing to know what their problem is but more of a why are you so annoyed? What is at the bottom of that?

In the meantime I hope you can put some space between yourself and this other person just to get some relief.

It is a trading forum. It is not okay to influence people on that platform. People can make bad decisions (actually they have last 8 months because of that person. Someone lost about $100K).

While I would agree with you at other times, not here. So no, I don't have to look deeper. The purpose of the platform is educate each other and share insight objectively.

[FallDuskTrain]

Originally Posted by CountingCrows

It is a trading forum. It is not okay to influence people on that platform. People can make bad decisions (actually they have last 8 months because of that person. Someone lost about $100K).

While I would agree with you at other times, not here. So no, I don't have to look deeper. The purpose of the platform is educate each other and share insight objectively.

For some reason, you still have not shared with us the diagnosis you got for $35, which makes it harder for us to understand the situation. With that being said, i think that person seems unethical and corrupt. Sorry that i cannot be more help without you sharing more info about the $35 diagnosis or his behavior outside of that internet forum.

[tecomsin]

Originally Posted by *Laurie*

The person could be anything from a jerk to a paranoid schizophrenic. It is absolutely impossible to even guess at what his issue really is.

I would agree with that statement. Also, what stands out the most to you may or may not be the most relevant to making a diagnosis. Without knowing the full picture it is impossible to say.

Usually compulsive lying or pathological lying is all encompassing not compartmentalized to one topic. Also they are not considered to be mental illnesses in the DSM but can be symptoms of other disorders.

Definitely be very wary of anyone offering a diagnosis of someone they have never met with only a description.

I wish the admins would stop allowing ‘what kind of crazy is this,’ posts from newcomers because people that come here to complain about other people bothering them have no business diagnosing them based on Internet forum chat, and there is this REALLY OFFENSIVE implication that X horrible behavior is obviously some kind of mental illness.

We get these posts in the bipolar forum. I can’t stand it.

[tecomsin]

My first participation in any mental health forum was when I was preoccupied with another person's mental illness, rather than my own. That to me is a valid reason to allow some posts of this nature. Sometimes it's a valid concern and sometimes it is an escape and sometimes it can be both. Oftentimes what we write about other people and our complaints/concerns reveals a lot about ourselves.