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Default Sep 27, 2023 at 12:12 PM
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I mean, I want to, but I just can't?

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Default Sep 27, 2023 at 12:18 PM
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What would you say the benefits of giving a ***** are versus not GAS? Seems like the more we care the more we get hurt?

The book The Art of Not Giving a ***** was very popular, lots of ppl must wish they cared less etc?
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Default Sep 27, 2023 at 01:02 PM
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I mean, I don't care about getting arrested, getting injured, dying, losing relationships, or anything really and I feel like these are things that should matter to a person. Not that I particularly want these things to happen to me, I just don't avoid doing things that lead to those things.

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Default Sep 27, 2023 at 01:16 PM
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That does seem like a reckless existence, not to consciously avoid things that would lead to suffering. I think ppl reading The Art of Not Giving a F probably just wanted to stop being sensitive, crying at work and catching feelings after a casual hookup, haha.

Maybe CBT and mindfulness can rewire the brain to think through actions & consequences. It's interesting so I hope someone here can shed some light.
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Default Sep 27, 2023 at 03:01 PM
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There’s a book called “the power of now by Eckhart Tolle“. It came to mind when I read your post. I don’t know if you read much but it’s not long and I’d recommend it.

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Default Sep 27, 2023 at 03:43 PM
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Greetings MuddyBoots.

Giving a hoot, I believe, can be learned just in the same way a person can learn a new skill. And I'd offer as as an incentive that in learning it, your life should (and probably will) improve. Now when you said "Not that I particularly want these things to happen to me, I just don't avoid doing things that lead to those things" I actually take that as a yes you do give a shyt. It is time to take action😉

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Default Sep 27, 2023 at 06:48 PM
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What would an improved life even look like? I've been home 3 days now and it's pretty much been wake up, crave drugs/alcohol, use/drink around appointments (had one Monday and one Tuesday), and listen to music while sporadically coming on here. I mean, I'm in a relationship and the other girl is all "I love you I love you I've been thinking about you all day and all night I love you let's have phone sex," and I'm down for the phone sex, but my "love you too" that she forces out of me ("do you love me too? you do still love me right?") has no meaning because I couldn't give a shyt about her.
Literally all my non abusive relationships are like this. I actually prefer the abusive ones to this.

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Default Sep 27, 2023 at 06:52 PM
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There’s a book called “the power of now by Eckhart Tolle“. It came to mind when I read your post. I don’t know if you read much but it’s not long and I’d recommend it.
Added to amazon cart. Just need some money before I buy it.

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Default Sep 27, 2023 at 10:37 PM
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Oh I can totally totally relate to not at all being able to visualise what life might be like after projected "improvement" @MuddyBoots. Absolutely. Because leading up to my decision to take that step into going to rehab (that was the start of my particular journey of change back in '98 when I was 29) I sat down and really thought hard about it. But just like you I couldn't imagine what an improved life could look like -, and I'd say a lot of people have that same experience. Anyway, but I reasoned to myself that in my case, whatever my life would look like it must surely be better than what I was living at the time. And I knew a lot of rock stars had embarked on that particular journey too (rehab, that is) and so I said to myself it must be worth taking that step. And in the event, almost immediately, things began to change for the better in ways I hadn't even considered MuddyBoots. It was amazing, that's all I can say, and I'm telling you the truth. And things continued to change. I don't want to mess with your head further but I'm not even the same person anymore. So that is what I'd like to share with you at this point.🙏

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Default Sep 27, 2023 at 10:44 PM
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Continued:

It's been an up and down roller-coaster ride, I will say that, but what I said (above) is true.

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Default Sep 28, 2023 at 04:59 AM
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I just got out of rehab and things were better... for 2 weeks, and then life took over.

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Default Sep 28, 2023 at 05:20 AM
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Well it doesn't have to be rehab specifically, your thread is about trying to improve your life in general right? So that's what I'm talking about. But in terms of rehab you could keep trying if you want to change. One shouldn't quit so readily otherwise this thread of yours is kinda pointless. I have to say it that way.

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Default Sep 28, 2023 at 07:07 AM
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@MuddyBoots, all I'm saying is the only way to really know what your life will look like on the path of self improvement is to find out when you get there. It's the only way. Unless you have a crystal ball 🙏

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Default Sep 28, 2023 at 12:30 PM
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your right this ****ing thread is ****ing pointless. just. like. everything. else.

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Default Sep 28, 2023 at 01:03 PM
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I'm sorry MuddyBoots. It's not pointless, I'm wrong about that. You're reaching out and that's a good thing. Keep posting please.

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Default Sep 28, 2023 at 01:09 PM
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"In the end, it doesn't even matter."

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Chester🙏

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Default Sep 29, 2023 at 03:24 PM
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Not really learned. It is more about your heart & mind getting fed up with where you are & willing to make the positive changes needed to improve your life. It must be obvious to you that what you are currently doing isn't achieving what you want or you wouldn't have asked the question

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I want other people to stop saying "be safe," and "be careful."

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