[salukigirl]

this blows my mind. i didnt hear anything about a marine killing a dog. well in another forum there were people talking about how the marine's family is now getting hate mail. and they were happy! people were saying things like "good, im glad theyre getting hate mail for what he did to that dog". and i was just shocked. apparently they can't see the different between what he did, and his parents. theyre actually wishing bad things on people they have never met before who didn't actually harm the dog in any way. theyre being so vindictive and it really bothers me. i feel bad wishing harm on anyone period whether they have wronged me or someone else. i guess im more of a rehab thinker. and i feel that, if he is mentally unstable, we should be helping him, not shunning him and wishing things upon his family! his family hasnt even done anything! and then when i try and play devil's advocate and stand up for the guy and his family saying that they don't know him/them and its bad to judge him/them and wish bad things upon them when they don't know all the circumstances, apparently im a horrible person.

now explain to me how that happens. they wish harm on people who had nothing to do with the killing. i say thats a bad thing to do to people youve never met and know nothing about. that makes me the bad guy? why can't people get off the defensive for once. it seems like instead of taking what people say and actually thinking about it, they always have to have something to shoot it down. i wish people would be a little more introspective i guess. just bothers me that people could wish harm on total strangers that didn't even have anything to do with the killing of the dog in the first place.

[(JD)]

In a society where many people have learned it's ok to "blame" others, I see this clearly, I think. In the particular case, as others where the parents are being blamed, I suppose it's because they believe the guy must have been raised that way, with no respect of animals?

It's unfortunate at best. That they talk of him as a "marine" without allowing for what he may have been through militarily for this country is disheartening. He probably was suffering mental unwellness, don't you think?

[chalmette70043]

And people who do do evil things to animals do get away it.

check this out: http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/phot...straydogs.html

http://www.pasadosafehaven.org/KATRI...NG/HISTORY.htm

sorry, got triggered.

chalmette

[(JD)]

Yes, unfortunately. And half the murders in the USA go unsolved (meaning the people get away with that too. )

[salukigirl]

i dont know. i guess i am just one who believes in rehab instead of an eye for an eye. one of my favorite quotes is an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth leaves us all blind and toothless. using violence to show that using violence is wrong, doesn't make sense. so why would we scream and yell and punish this man to show that screaming and yelling and punishing are wrong? shouldnt we show him love and compassion and understanding? let him know that we understand the terror he goes through on a daily basis being a marine and how that can mess people up. i just feel like love and compassion heals people better than anger and shunning.

on the subject of murders going unsolved - my uncle was actually beaten and robbed and left to die on the sidewalk in downtown dayton by a few guys and no one ever found him. this was several years ago.

[pachyderm]

[mandazzle]

I think my friends The Beatles said it best; all you need is love.

I think that it is really awful that people can so easily hurt other people. I dont understand it at all. Why cant people have respect for others and when they see some one is suffering help them instead of taring them down more?

[Perna]

It's mob mentality. The marine was actually putting the puppy out of its misery; it was sick and, out in the desert with no possibility of water, food, and care it would have just gotten worse and worse and died a longer drawn out death. The guy just did it clumsily and one of the guys with him obviously decided to put it on the Web from his cell phone camera. Because it was a puppy everyone gets all bent out of shape, thinks it's abuse without knowing the circumstances. They normally shoot the dogs. It's our human side that gets anthropomorphic about it, cares "how" something dies.

I remember when I found a baby bunny my cat had gotten to outside and torn a small hole in its side and I wanted my husband to kill it, put it out of its misery so I gave him a shovel to smack it with but then carried it around tenderly, looking for the right "spot" trying to find a soft, mossy one. It took several minutes before I realized the discrepancy there, of hitting a baby bunny with a shovel on a soft bed, and realized I didn't want to watch/be responsible for killing the rabbit no matter what. So, I took it down in the woods with some water, covered it well with leaves so the cats were less likely to find it, etc. The next day when I checked it was not there and I like to think it recovered. Probably very selfish of me.

I dont know.. I really dont think he was putting it out of his misery completely.. as they laughed and made a joke out of it, and went so far as to film it. The guy knew he was being filmed and acted as if he enjoyed what he was doing.

And yes, they are supposed to be putting animals down - but if they normally shoot the dogs, then why did he not shoot the puppy? Why go to the extent they did to make it a theatrical performance?

I sincerely hope that the people involved in this are found and reprimanded at the very least by the Marine Corp.

For those who say that we shouldn't be so upset over a puppy because they are comitting many worse acts against civillians.. well, for one puppies dont go around carrying weapons(not saying all civillians do, just saying that the situation is volatile and they do need self defence) and for two, if i had proof that a soldier committed an offence or something morally wrong against a civillian I would hope they were held responsible too.

[salukigirl]

i dont think anyone is saying that the puppy doesnt matter because worse things are being done to civilians.

this post wasnt even about that. it was about the people who are wishing his family harm and giving them death threats because of something he did. his family is paying the price for his actions and people are actually saying things like "good, they deserve it for raising a song like that".

i wasnt trying to start an uproar about the dog. i was trying to show that people are so vindictive as to go after the family like that when they had nothing to do with it. being a zoology major who is going into veterinary medicine, i find abuse of animals disgusting. but i still think we should be helping him, not hurting his family.

[(JD)]

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I absolutely agree. It could be incidents like this that cause the accused people to take their frustrations out on people also. Retaliation is a vicious cycle. IMO.