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Old Jul 30, 2012, 01:09 PM
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I Don't see a subforum for this pd. I was told this is the other end of BPD, While BPD are more psychotic the EUPD are more impulsive. Anyone else here diagnosed with this?

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Old Jul 30, 2012, 01:38 PM
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From what I understand Emotional unstable PD is BPD it is just another name for it.
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Old Jul 30, 2012, 01:57 PM
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From what I was explained they are in the same group but different:

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F60.30 Impulsive type

At least three of the following must be present, one of which must be (2):

1. marked tendency to act unexpectedly and without consideration of the consequences;
2. marked tendency to quarrelsome behaviour and to conflicts with others, especially when impulsive acts are thwarted or criticized;
3. liability to outbursts of anger or violence, with inability to control the resulting behavioural explosions;
4. difficulty in maintaining any course of action that offers no immediate reward;
5. unstable and capricious mood.

F60.31 Borderline type

At least three of the symptoms mentioned in F60.30 Impulsive type must be present [see above], with at least two of the following in addition:

1. disturbances in and uncertainty about self-image, aims, and internal preferences (including sexual);
2. liability to become involved in intense and unstable relationships, often leading to emotional crisis;
3. excessive efforts to avoid abandonment;
4. recurrent threats or acts of self-harm;
5. chronic feelings of emptiness.
6. demonstrates impulsive behaviour i.e speeding, substance abuse
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Old Jul 30, 2012, 02:06 PM
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I don't know, This is what I was told.

Emotionally Unstable Personality Disorder - Assessment and Diagnosis

The Concept

The following list of symptoms and underlying problems might mean that a person could usefully be described as suffering from Emotionally Unstable Personality Disorder (also known as Borderline Personality Disorder).

Suicide attempts
Self-harm e.g. cutting, burning, overdosing
Alcohol problems and illicit drug use
Eating disturbances
Emotional disturbances
Problems with relationships
Criminal and other violent behaviour
Symptoms of clinical depression and anxiety
Auditory hallucinations
History of being physically or sexually abused
Unhappy, insecure, chaotic childhood
Overwhelming loss and grief
Overwhelming fear of abandonment
Impulsive behaviour

http://www.mhguidelines-leics.nhs.uk...smentdiagnosis
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Old Jul 30, 2012, 02:20 PM
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Thanks anyway. I just obsess on the details.

I guess they are trying to differentiate all the mental problems as mush as possible. I was told borderlines tend to be psychotic while the emotionally unstable are more impulsive.
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Old Jul 30, 2012, 02:26 PM
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You're welcome and I get impulsive and psychotic
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Old Aug 01, 2012, 03:44 PM
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i think if they are separated they should be separate. I guess its like introvert, extrovert. two ends of one diagnose
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Old Aug 03, 2012, 06:19 PM
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Emotional Unstable Personality Disorder is exactly the same thing, it's just the European name that they'll be putting into place soon, so they've been starting early.

That's just the European criteria (AKA ICD-10) for Emotional Unstable Personality Disorder, the EXACT same thing as BPD.
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Old Aug 04, 2012, 12:04 PM
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thank you. i was wondering why i find nothing on tje subject. Well for good or bad i was right with the diagnodis.

Thank you for the clarification girl_interrupted.
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Old Aug 04, 2012, 12:08 PM
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Yeah, it's the European version. Try this:

http://www.mentalhealth.com/icd/p22-pe05.html

http://www.esspd-borderline2012.eu/
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Old Aug 04, 2012, 12:23 PM
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Hi, I am from the UK and it is true that BPD and EUPD are the same thing. There has been a lot of criticism of the term BPD and those that have been diagnosed with this can experience a lot of stigma in the system and find it damaging to think that there is something inherently wrong with the personality and that the old label of BPD came with a sense of shame.

They are due to release a new version of the NICE guidelines for assessment and diagnosis and in this one of the proposed changes was to rename BPD as EUPD. It is exactly the same as with Multiple Personality Disorder, this is now commonly referred to Dissociative Identity Disorder.

My GP often discusses my BPD traits as EUPD because she know how freaked out I was with BPD as a diagnosis so she was attempting to get me to accept the traits by changing the title making it feel a little less daunting but it didn't work because I was aware that it is the same illness which she acknowledged to be true when I questioned her about it.
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Old Aug 04, 2012, 01:00 PM
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dumb abbr, looks to me like European Union P-Dollars.
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Old Aug 05, 2012, 01:27 PM
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Totally... right would be better if they put to service providers so they can offer more and be able to help those that live with the symptoms rather than finding a label. Although some people find comfort in a lable... is this why you are looking for a difference In.neverland? How do you feel about it being the same?
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Old Aug 05, 2012, 02:52 PM
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When I was first diagnosed with BPD I was told I had emotional unstable personality disorder, Here in the UK as already been said it is just another name for it but I still call it BPD.
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Old Aug 06, 2012, 02:39 AM
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thank you for the replies.

mindfield a label for me is very important. It validates my emotions, helps me deal with guilt and i also feel if i dont have a certain, true and severe diagnose noone will help me.As have been prooved by nhs,

the new name i dont like because all my life I've een called too emotional. While i feel completely missunderstood that label coinciding with ppls opinion, just makes me feel more responcible for my own situation.
At first when he told me( the dr, that was evaluating me, and he avoided using the exact words pd) i was surprised I've never heard before of that disorder. Now when i know they are the same, it is probably a matter of time until i get used to it.
 
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