What is Justice?

likewater · Jun 02, 2012 at 02:20 AM

Ok i wouldnt really do it. I dont even think i'm physically strong enoughand i believe in a higher power that says," vengeance is
mine." I think that is the only way i will get justice. Through divine power. Through that power my abusers will repent and be saved, I
hope or be punished. Either way,i get justice.

Nammu · Jun 03, 2012 at 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael D.

....by Cicero

However, I must add that there is a distinct difference between justice and vengeance...... Justice is impartial and fair. ........Through justice, the society as a whole is benefited....... It is selfless.

Vengeance is biased and personal...... It only succeeds in perpetuating harm and bringing a hollow and fleeting sense of satisfaction to the one seeking vengeance........ It is a wholly selfish endeavor.

Justice does exist as a human creation....... It is flawed, because humans are flawed.

From my experience, the human failure to hand out justice for the benefit of all arises from the selfishness of those few who have a greater need to cover up their wrongs and their connections to "bad" people so they can keep their ill-gotten gains flowing. No matter what the pain, physical or psychological to others. It is only with the threat of publicity, does the selfless fair impartial benefits for society as a whole come to the fore and as the wounded as individuals themselves get any validation, that yes indeed they had suffered and that the perpetrator was the bad person not they the victim. It usually only happens after many years of suffering if it happens at all. In most cases the wounded must try to believe from an utter dark soundless briny deep that they did nothing wrong while watching the perpetrator get fat from the drippings of a very flawed and selfish society. A very flawed system, created and run by the most flawed of human beings--those that have the most to lose.
Vengeance must be kept inside as a fantasy only to be indulged as a secret toy one can not share for fear of being locked up. Simply for having a completely normal feeling toward someone who has hurt and abused them, and then gets to dance free. It may be selfish but society has left the victim with little other recourse.

He is correct, it is flawed, because humans are flawed, I see no reason to live down to that, we can change and grow. Humans have always had the abilty to grow.

Jun 03, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Perhaps "Justice" is simply becoming better people than our abusers were in spite of all the damage they did to us ...

I guess that sounds kinda simplistic, but I gave up on getting justice from any outside resources a long, long time ago ...

Open Eyes · Jun 03, 2012 at 10:52 AM

This is a very difficult question for a person who is struggling with PTSD to answer.
However it is a good question to put out there for discussion because it can help someone who struggles with PTSD that is a result from abuse of somekind. When someone is suffering from PTSD there is a tremdous amount of anger involved and it is very hard to extinguish this anger, it is very hard to reason THROUGH OR OVER anger.

There is a lot to be considered when dealing with an abuser. Abusers definitely injure others but sometimes they do this because they were injured and distorted themselves and yet other times they abuse because they can only think of themselves and truely have no conscience.

Awareness is the best way to prevention in many cases. And we have proven time and again that often it is human nature to be ignorant.

Open Eyes

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likewater Magnate Member Since Jul 2011 Posts: 2,309 13 492 hugs given	Jun 02, 2012 at 02:20 AM #21 Ok i wouldnt really do it. I dont even think i'm physically strong enoughand i believe in a higher power that says," vengeance is mine." I think that is the only way i will get justice. Through divine power. Through that power my abusers will repent and be saved, I hope or be punished. Either way,i get justice.
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Anonymous37842 Guest Posts: n/a	Jun 03, 2012 at 10:20 AM #23 Perhaps "Justice" is simply becoming better people than our abusers were in spite of all the damage they did to us ... I guess that sounds kinda simplistic, but I gave up on getting justice from any outside resources a long, long time ago ...
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