[SaharaSon]

At last count the following disorders and syndromes apply very well to me.
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)
Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (CPTSD)
Intermittant Explosive Disorder (IED)
Child Traumatic Stress Disorder (CTS)
Early Childhood Trauma Disorder (ECT)
Now all of these disorders overlap to one degree or another, or the lingering and unresolved disorders overlap other newly generated disorders. Question, do these disorders have a synergistic or multiplying effect which is greater than the sum of the individual disorders? In other words can these disorders combine to form a humongous perfect storm? Or does the brain have a mechanism or a governor of some type to keep this from happening? Admittedly I'm a mess, but I still seem to be functioning at a reasonably high level. I'm just wondering if one day all heck is going to break lose. Shalom.

[Skeezyks]

I'm sorry I can't answer your question. But I noticed no one had replied to your post. So I thought I would.

I don't know how old you are. I'm an older person who has struggled silently & alone all of his life with (still undiagnosed) mental health issues. The one thing I can tell you, based on my own personal experience, is that the older one gets the more difficult it becomes to "keep the cork in the bottle", so to speak. It's sort-of like there's a storm raging within. And it takes almost all of your energy to contain it & carry on with your day-to-day life.

As you get older (for me it was in my late 40's) it just gets harder-&-harder to maintain control so that, after a while, all it takes is just one relatively small upset to cause it to all come crashing down. In my case, it was a not all that terribly serious bout with cancer. So, from my perspective, I would say I don't know about the brain mechanism or governor idea. But is it possible that one day all heck is going to break lose? I'd say yes it's possible. It may even be likely. But that's just my personal opinion... for what it's worth.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by SaharaSon

At last count the following disorders and syndromes apply very well to me.
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)
Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (CPTSD)
Intermittant Explosive Disorder (IED)
Child Traumatic Stress Disorder (CTS)
Early Childhood Trauma Disorder (ECT)
Now all of these disorders overlap to one degree or another, or the lingering and unresolved disorders overlap other newly generated disorders. Question, do these disorders have a synergistic or multiplying effect which is greater than the sum of the individual disorders? In other words can these disorders combine to form a humongous perfect storm? Or does the brain have a mechanism or a governor of some type to keep this from happening? Admittedly I'm a mess, but I still seem to be functioning at a reasonably high level. I'm just wondering if one day all heck is going to break lose. Shalom.

no its not a brain function thing that I know of.... but I do know that here in america each mental disorder has their own diagnostics and symptoms. Because of how the diagnosis process is now set up one mental disorder does not have a multiplying effect... short version one of the diagnostics of each mental disorder is now..... the problem can not be because of another / the problem can not be better explained by another.... its a situation where you have what you have and thats it.

example I have more than one mental disorder. if for example I am having a depression problem my treatment providers must look at the problem and then decide whether my depression problem is because of my Bipolar disorder, or my Acute Stress disorder (outside the USA this is called CPTSD) or if my depression problem is because of my MS (a physical health problem not mental disorder) because of the way america now diagnosis's mental disorders they can not say something like my bipolar disorder is having an affect on my Acute Stress Disorder making my Acute stress disorder worse. why not because of the diagnostic criteria that says the problem can not be because of other mental problems.

Im guessing the reason why the American Psychiatric Association came up with this new diagnostic criteria is because so many people were confused as to whether their problem was caused by xyz or because of abc. now its clear which problems go with which and easier to treat the problem.

since your location is here in the USA, my suggestion is talk with your, or a treatment provider in your off the computer location. they will be able to tell you which of your problems belong to which of your diagnosis's and how to best take care of the problem.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by SaharaSon

At last count the following disorders and syndromes apply very well to me.
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)
Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (CPTSD)
Intermittant Explosive Disorder (IED)
Child Traumatic Stress Disorder (CTS)
Early Childhood Trauma Disorder (ECT)
Now all of these disorders overlap to one degree or another, or the lingering and unresolved disorders overlap other newly generated disorders. Question, do these disorders have a synergistic or multiplying effect which is greater than the sum of the individual disorders? In other words can these disorders combine to form a humongous perfect storm? Or does the brain have a mechanism or a governor of some type to keep this from happening? Admittedly I'm a mess, but I still seem to be functioning at a reasonably high level. I'm just wondering if one day all heck is going to break lose. Shalom.

also wanted to add some of those on your list if you are an adult you will get them as diagnosis labeling. example IED and CTS and early Childhood Trauma Disorder are only diagnosed in children each of those come with age limits. after certain ages they are just called PTSD and the CPTSD is no longer being diagnosed here in america. those that still have this diagnosis here in america is because they were diagnosed with CPTSD before the change over to the new diagnostics.

example before 2013 (when the new diagnostics came out) my diagnosis was CPTSD, it for me it transferred over to being Acute Stress Disorder. for others here in america it could be called PTSD, or Major Depressive Disorder....it now is individualized according to ones own combination or symptoms.

[SaharaSon]

Originally Posted by Skeezyks

I'm sorry I can't answer your question. But I noticed no one had replied to your post. So I thought I would.

I don't know how old you are. I'm an older person who has struggled silently & alone all of his life with (still undiagnosed) mental health issues. The one thing I can tell you, based on my own personal experience, is that the older one gets the more difficult it becomes to "keep the cork in the bottle", so to speak. It's sort-of like there's a storm raging within. And it takes almost all of your energy to contain it & carry on with your day-to-day life.

As you get older (for me it was in my late 40's) it just gets harder-&-harder to maintain control so that, after a while, all it takes is just one relatively small upset to cause it to all come crashing down. In my case, it was a not all that terribly serious bout with cancer. So, from my perspective, I would say I don't know about the brain mechanism or governor idea. But is it possible that one day all heck is going to break lose? I'd say yes it's possible. It may even be likely. But that's just my personal opinion... for what it's worth.

Skeezyks, very thoughtful reply. I'm hoping that by addressing these disorders head on, getting them well defined and understanding them and accepting that they apply to me I am opening release valves to deflat their impact. I think that talking about them helps me to understand them. I don't try to beat them into submission but rather use kung fu on them, and slide by them and let them wear themselves out. Kind of like using rope a dope on them. I think if I try to fight them head on, they win. If I wear them out one by one, I win. Ignoring them doesn't work. You have to identify them and know that they are there and then face them to deal with them. Shalom.

[SaharaSon]

Originally Posted by amandalouise

also wanted to add some of those on your list if you are an adult you will get them as diagnosis labeling. example IED and CTS and early Childhood Trauma Disorder are only diagnosed in children each of those come with age limits. after certain ages they are just called PTSD and the CPTSD is no longer being diagnosed here in america. those that still have this diagnosis here in america is because they were diagnosed with CPTSD before the change over to the new diagnostics.

example before 2013 (when the new diagnostics came out) my diagnosis was CPTSD, it for me it transferred over to being Acute Stress Disorder. for others here in america it could be called PTSD, or Major Depressive Disorder....it now is individualized according to ones own combination or symptoms.

Amanda, there are several points. One, it is useful to have some of these disorders very narrowly defined because it defines the origins of the disorder, and why this person has this disorder. Like ECT (Early Childhood Trauma) is restricted to children from ages 1-6 and all the consequences of early childhood developement. Another point is that a disorder can be determined after the fact because the characteristics and consequences of the disorder can be unique and continuous or lifelong. Third, some disorders are directly connected to physical events. Like I have TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury) due to at least 8 concussions, two quite severe, which are milestones, or event markers, for psyche disorders. Thanks Amanda. Shalom.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by SaharaSon

Amanda, there are several points. One, it is useful to have some of these disorders very narrowly defined because it defines the origins of the disorder, and why this person has this disorder. Like ECT (Early Childhood Trauma) is restricted to children from ages 1-6 and all the consequences of early childhood developement. Another point is that a disorder can be determined after the fact because the characteristics and consequences of the disorder can be unique and continuous or lifelong. Third, some disorders are directly connected to physical events. Like I have TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury) due to at least 8 concussions, two quite severe, which are milestones, or event markers, for psyche disorders. Thanks Amanda. Shalom.

yes I understand all this... my replies were under the standard of as you stated.....I'm just wondering if one day all heck is going to break lose. Shalom.

and your question as to in your words....... does the brain have a mechanism or a governor of some type to keep this from happening?

no its not a brain mechanism

and if under the situation of one day allheck breaks lose...

here in america a treatment provider would have to assess the problem, find out which one of mental disorders each problem belongs in with (diagnostics dont allow treatment providers to say one is because of another/ multiplying kind of thing)

in the event that all heck breaks lose a treatment provider would not diagnose some of those in your list to adults... in short they would look at the mental disorders listing for adults....

example PTSD takes into consideration early childhood trauma's, explosive emotions and physical events that have caused distress and trauma ....PTSd is a mental disorder where problems can be life long. there is no expiration date on having PTSD. therefore a treatment provider would take all those childhood diagnosis's and give the label of PTSD instead.

my point was that in the event that all heck breaks loose you would still get treated for your early childhood problems you just wont carry/ be called a childs diagnosis. they would list your problems with in the adult categories instead. same thing just different names for it.

they have different category / disorder names for children because some USA states dont allow children to be called the same mental disorder as adults due to sometimes the child outgrows or heals from the problem and they dont want a child stuck with an adult label during childhood and a childhood diagnosis interfering with their adult life. so they made different mental disorders with age limits.

again your problems would still get treated and considered, just not as a childs diagnosis label

heres something else i just thought of ...most adults say I have PTSD not I have ECT...

the letters ECT in adult language is a therapy approach also called electro convulsive therapy, in other words someone who tells another they have ECT their friend may instead think the person was so depressed that they needed to have shock therapy where electrodes are placed on the temples and an electrical current is sent into the brain.. just another good reason why we have adult diagnosis's and diagnosis meant for only children....

I wouldnt want someone to think you had shock therapy if you did not when you are meaning to say you have early childhood problems.

[SaharaSon]

Originally Posted by amandalouise

yes I understand all this... my replies were under the standard of as you stated.....I'm just wondering if one day all heck is going to break lose. Shalom.

and your question as to in your words....... does the brain have a mechanism or a governor of some type to keep this from happening?

no its not a brain mechanism

and if under the situation of one day allheck breaks lose...

here in america a treatment provider would have to assess the problem, find out which one of mental disorders each problem belongs in with (diagnostics dont allow treatment providers to say one is because of another/ multiplying kind of thing)

in the event that all heck breaks lose a treatment provider would not diagnose some of those in your list to adults... in short they would look at the mental disorders listing for adults....

example PTSD takes into consideration early childhood trauma's, explosive emotions and physical events that have caused distress and trauma ....PTSd is a mental disorder where problems can be life long. there is no expiration date on having PTSD. therefore a treatment provider would take all those childhood diagnosis's and give the label of PTSD instead.

my point was that in the event that all heck breaks loose you would still get treated for your early childhood problems you just wont carry/ be called a childs diagnosis. they would list your problems with in the adult categories instead. same thing just different names for it.

they have different category / disorder names for children because some USA states dont allow children to be called the same mental disorder as adults due to sometimes the child outgrows or heals from the problem and they dont want a child stuck with an adult label during childhood and a childhood diagnosis interfering with their adult life. so they made different mental disorders with age limits.

again your problems would still get treated and considered, just not as a childs diagnosis label

heres something else i just thought of ...most adults say I have PTSD not I have ECT...

the letters ECT in adult language is a therapy approach also called electro convulsive therapy, in other words someone who tells another they have ECT their friend may instead think the person was so depressed that they needed to have shock therapy where electrodes are placed on the temples and an electrical current is sent into the brain.. just another good reason why we have adult diagnosis's and diagnosis meant for only children....

I wouldnt want someone to think you had shock therapy if you did not when you are meaning to say you have early childhood problems.

Well Amanda, maybe I need Electro Convulsive Therapy, who knows? I just don't want Nurse Ratchett to do it. Shalom.

[SaharaSon]

Amanda, The rest of the world is going the other way, completely seperating PTSD and CPTSD in thier 11th Diagnostic Manual. Why the US changed has more to do with politics than medicine. A Rose by any other name is still a Rose. Shalom.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by SaharaSon

Amanda, The rest of the world is going the other way, completely seperating PTSD and CPTSD in thier 11th Diagnostic Manual. Why the US changed has more to do with politics than medicine. A Rose by any other name is still a Rose. Shalom.

Im sorry but political discussions on psych central is extremely limited if not allowed so all I can say to that is you can find out how our present standard of .....diagnostics manual.... here in america was developed processed for many decades and then transitioned into use at dsm5.org.