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Old Apr 23, 2008, 11:04 AM
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Smell tests may predict susceptibility to PTSD
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A world first study of Vietnam veterans' sense of smell has revealed that an inability to identify smells indicates extreme symptoms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD).

Researchers from the University of Melbourne and Austin Health conducting smell tests on 31 male war veterans with PTSD, recruited from Austin Health's Veterans Psychiatry Unit.

"The worse their ability to be able to name a smell, in a smell test of over 40 'scratch and sniff' odors, the harder it is to manage their emotions," said John Dileo of the University's School of Behavioral Science, who conducted the study.

Dileo says that the difficulty Vietnam veterans suffering PTSD have in putting the name to a smell may be indicative of weakness in brain pathways related to emotional processing. He says the same areas in the frontal region of the brain that are involved in identifying smells are also involved in regulating emotion.

"This is the first study to report olfactory identification ability as a predictor of aggression and impulsivity in war veterans suffering PTSD," said Associate Professor Warrick Brewer of the ORYGEN Research Centre and the University's Department of Psychiatry, who supervised the research.

"Smell impairments have been identified in other populations where people have difficulties in thinking, feeling and behavior, such as with schizophrenia, ADHD and autism," said Assoc Prof Brewer.

John Dileo says that unlike other mental health conditions, the unique aspect of PTSD is that it occurs after an event. "We don't know if the impairment existed before going to war. If we can study smell ability before and after time spent at war, we can better understand this impairment in PTSD."

"In a practical way, if we can find that smell impairment predicts the development of PTSD, smell tests could be used as a screening tool by the Australian Defence Force for example to assess vulnerability."

Associate Professor Malcolm Hopwood of the Austin Health Veterans Psychiatry Unit says PTSD is a debilitating condition characterized by symptoms of avoidance, hyper arousal and intrusive memories.

"Some individuals with PTSD also show dramatic behavioral changes such as increased aggression, anger, impulsivity and suicidal thoughts and behavior.

"PTSD is often associated with complex associated problems including alcohol abuse, mood disorders, and persistent physical health problems making it is an extremely difficult condition to diagnose and treat.

"This is significant research which will help us to better understand brain mechanisms of PTSD and hopefully help us to improve treatment and management of the condition."

Dileo JF, Brewer WJ, Hopwood M, et al. Olfactory identification dysfunction aggression and impulsivity in war veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder Psychol Med. 2008 Apr;38(4):523-531

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Old Apr 23, 2008, 01:27 PM
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Interesting, though I couldn't help but think, not being able to identify smells well could just mean they're a smoker.

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Old Apr 23, 2008, 02:26 PM
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interesting but would depend on the individual i think. i have severe ptsd and no sense of smell...but i'm told my lack of smell is connected to my part deafness which makes sense coz ear, nose throat are all connected.

i also read a study recently that said people with severe depression (with no ptsd) also have poor-no sense of smell.

interesting study though, thanks for sharing. Smell tests may predict susceptibility to PTSD
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Are you talking about severe depression as in 'psychotic' depression?
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 02:30 PM
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Interesting, though I couldn't help but think, not being able to identify smells well could just mean they're a smoker.

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I would have thought they would have taken that into account.
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no...clinical depression
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Dileo says that the difficulty Vietnam veterans suffering PTSD have in putting the name to a smell may be indicative of weakness in brain pathways related to emotional processing. He says the same areas in the frontal region of the brain that are involved in identifying smells are also involved in regulating emotion.

</div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> I would think this could be related to some depressions and other mental illnesses too.

But the test isn't about whether one can smell or not, but whether one can identify smells (can smell it fine, but what is it?). If one can't smell well because of damage to olofactory or other related organs/processes, then one wouldn't have been included in this study.
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This reminded me of another study that came out a few weeks ago: Senses and Memories Can Be Strengthened by Anxiety . The researchers found that the subjects could better identify specific smells when they were paired with an electric shock to represent a "trauma."
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this is a which came first the chicken or the egg type of thing. it may very well be an affect of ptsd and not an indicator of potential ptsd
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Interesting, but I'm not sure what to think about it. I have PTSD. I also have an extremely acute sense of smell. In fact, some of my triggers are related to certain smells.

Of course, that's just me.
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I don't have PTSD but the smell of rolling tobacco,soup,disinfectant smell can sometimes take me back to the time i was on a closed ward during my first admission and make me lose myself in exquisitely sad reminiscences.
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http://www.anxietyinsights.info/smel...ty_to_ptsd.htm

A world first study of Vietnam veterans' sense of smell has revealed that an inability to identify smells indicates extreme symptoms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD).

<font color="blue"> These two statements do not say the same thing. Smell tests may predict susceptibility to PTSD

They are hoping that they can use smell tests to predict "susceptibility." But as it is now, trauma affects the sense of smell.

Any research they do sounds good to me!

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curious... i, too, finally realized i was standing in a cafeteria and didn't smell a thing. Once I put down my barriers that i keep up all the time and really thought about it, i could then smell the food - or at least i think so. i suppose i could have just been remembering what those foods smell like.
so now days i test myself every once and a while - i see food; can i smell it?
some smells are triggers for me - butter and hamburger in particular.
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