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My friend has oxazepam from earlier this year that she no longer uses. I slept over and didn't have my Xanax on me so figured that it's also a benzodiazepine, so what's the harm of trying it?

I took it quite early in the evening and it hit me harder than Xanax or Ativan has ever hit me. I was so drowsy, quite dizzy and apparently slurred a bit.

Has anybody else ever used this drug?

I've been taking it PRN for approx 3 years, with a few short instances of taking it regularly. I take it for anxiety, panic and restlessness/racing thoughts.

It's basically the go-to med in my country for anxiety/panic/unease.

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Yes, it is the most prescribed benzo here. I was thinking what dosage you were used to with the Xanax and how much this was, can matter a lot.

For me, oxazepam is inferior for anxiety. But it is a much more sedating benzo. It is used here for that reason. They want people to avoid taking benzos by giving them something that is not really nice to take, don't really give you a high, but make you sluggish.

When people use oxazepam on a general basis, the tiredness goes away, so their reason for using it on us is sort of a non reason anyway.

But yes, I would say it is the most sedating of the daytime type benzos.

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NEVER heard of it ,and i thought i had took every thing, i take a mood stabilizer now better tan a benzo but kills your organ quicker .

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[QUOTE=NUKEDANGEL;5431298]NEVER heard of it ,and i thought i had took every thing, i take a mood stabilizer now better tan a benzo but kills your organ quicker

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Originally Posted by Breadfish

I've been taking it PRN for approx 3 years, with a few short instances of taking it regularly. I take it for anxiety, panic and restlessness/racing thoughts.

It's basically the go-to med in my country for anxiety/panic/unease.

Thanks. Here, doctors are more likely to prescribe Xanax or Ativan.

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Originally Posted by -jimi-

Yes, it is the most prescribed benzo here. I was thinking what dosage you were used to with the Xanax and how much this was, can matter a lot.

For me, oxazepam is inferior for anxiety. But it is a much more sedating benzo. It is used here for that reason. They want people to avoid taking benzos by giving them something that is not really nice to take, don't really give you a high, but make you sluggish.

When people use oxazepam on a general basis, the tiredness goes away, so their reason for using it on us is sort of a non reason anyway.

But yes, I would say it is the most sedating of the daytime type benzos.

I am not totally sure as to what the dose was- I think 10 or 20 mg. I'm going to have to agree with your statement that it is more sedating-the anxiety did not cease, but I felt extremely sluggish, even the next morning as well. That same friend also has bromazepam that she would use for panic attacks- her 'pink pills' she calls them.

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Originally Posted by NUKEDANGEL

NEVER heard of it ,and i thought i had took every thing, i take a mood stabilizer now better tan a benzo but kills your organ quicker

And regarding mood stabilizers- yes I do make use of them for anxiety as well as bipolar disorder as I can't take antidepressants without striking a manic episode.

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Originally Posted by NUKEDANGEL

NEVER heard of it ,and i thought i had took every thing, i take a mood stabilizer now better tan a benzo but kills your organ quicker .

OOOOOOOOOOO VALIUM OR DIAZEPAM never heard it called oxazepam

[-jimi-]

Kind of funny how different countries go with different benzos. Here the number one is oxazepam and the second is Valium. To new patients these days they never prescribe something different. I am the only one I know in my country who takes Xanax.

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Originally Posted by -jimi-

Kind of funny how different countries go with different benzos. Here the number one is oxazepam and the second is Valium. To new patients these days they never prescribe something different. I am the only one I know in my country who takes Xanax.

i thought OXAZEPAM WAS DIAZEPAM ie VALIUM im cofused

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Originally Posted by NUKEDANGEL

i thought OXAZEPAM WAS DIAZEPAM ie VALIUM im cofused

Valium (diazepam) and oxazepam are not the same thing. Both benzos, but different. From this thread, as well as the internet, oxazepam does tend to be the more sedating one.

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Originally Posted by -jimi-

Kind of funny how different countries go with different benzos. Here the number one is oxazepam and the second is Valium. To new patients these days they never prescribe something different. I am the only one I know in my country who takes Xanax.

Interesting. Here, it seems that Xanax (alprazolam) is on top, then Ativan (lorazepam) then Klonopin/Rivotril (clonazepam) and then perhaps Valium (diazepam). It's only been a few cases here and there that I've heard of oxazepam or bromazepam being used.

*Interesting fact- oxazepam is a metabolic product of most of the benzos.

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es, 40 mg ox Oxazepam seems equal to 1 mg ox xanax IR. 1 mg of xanax xr is different than 1 mg of xanax IR. IR releases all of the xanax at once, xr takes a longer period of time to release the same dose.
i just copied this , seems a pretty lame benzo , 40mg is the same strength has 1 mg XANAX or 20mg the strength of 1 lorazepam , valium is between 10-15 ,mg to 1 lorazepam , the main benzo used in ENGLAND, is LORAZEPAM and second VALIUM, never hears Xanax used in England much , save it for rock stars, its very strong that's why a lot of rock stars get in trouble with xanax , they use it to bring them back down after a gig , i

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Originally Posted by NUKEDANGEL

es, 40 mg ox Oxazepam seems equal to 1 mg ox xanax IR. 1 mg of xanax xr is different than 1 mg of xanax IR. IR releases all of the xanax at once, xr takes a longer period of time to release the same dose.
i just copied this , seems a pretty lame benzo , 40mg is the same strength has 1 mg XANAX or 20mg the strength of 1 lorazepam , valium is between 10-15 ,mg to 1 lorazepam , the main benzo used in ENGLAND, is LORAZEPAM and second VALIUM, never hears Xanax used in England much , save it for rock stars, its very strong that's why a lot of rock stars get in trouble with xanax , they use it to bring them back down after a gig , i

It's actually not that lame at all. Just because something is more milligrams to be equivalent to a drug of 1 mg, doesn't make it lame. Oxazepam is sold in 20 mg tablets and, as my research suggests, is more sedating than Ativan when taken at what is considered equivalent to Ativan 1 mg.

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It's like when I took Halcion as a sleep med. It is seen as strong. But they don't just hand out 1 mg sleep med no matter of make. My sleep med was prescribed at 0.125 mg. So yea you can call it strong but you're not allowed big dosages of it so it really doesn't matter. The pills are made from how "strong" they are. The 0.125 mg Halcion pill is just as big as a 1 mg Xanax pill. It just has more fillers and stuff. Numbers mean very little when it comes to this. So I totally agree, Oxazepam is not lame just because it has another number on the box.

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From what I've read, more sedating, lower-potency Benzos sometimes get the job done with lower overall dosage.

Also, librium and valium are easier to taper than some of the other, higher potency benzos. Klonopin is a pain to taper, even though it has that long half life.

40mgs/Valium is = to 2mgs/Klonopin, but you get more sedation from the Valium, which kind of limits the dose to a certain extent. Klonopin doses sometimes get crazy high. I seem to recall reading that at or around 4mgs, xanax and klonopin become very, very difficult to taper. Sad thing is, because they're so high potency, its easy to get to that dosage with some prescribers, and then person/patient is basically stuck.

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Often they switch someone over to things like Valium if they need to taper off, just because it is easier than taper off a short acting benzo. I heard so much about Klonopin, at the beginning it wasn't really even seen as addictive! And when you look at it it should be as "easy" to taper as Valium but isn't. It's kind of strange, it seems like quite a vile med that way.

As for sedating and non sedating benzos, being sedated can even increase my anxiety, so I stay away from stuff that is physically sedating. There is nothing worse than an alert mind in a drugged body for me.

Some people feel really calm as their body is drugged, those people usually like antihistamines as well, because it ties their body down. For me that equals panic.

So, people are really different that way, I guess that is why doctors should really understand that benzos are not all the same. I have met doctors who claim they are all the same with different names. Sigh.

As for Valium LOL, had a paradoxical reaction on it and even if docs want me on it (because it is "less" addictive than Xanax), I remember the feeling on it wanting to go out and do mischief. It made me really hyper. I guess people don't usually react like this....

But I think still most people feel oxazepam and Valium are really different, they are almost the only benzos used where I live, and those I know who take them, will all claim that the "other" benzo is inferior, LOL. I hear people going off oxazepam onto Valium, but rarely the opposite direction. It simply seems like oxazepam is the least liked benzo of them all.

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Originally Posted by -jimi-

Often they switch someone over to things like Valium if they need to taper off, just because it is easier than taper off a short acting benzo. I heard so much about Klonopin, at the beginning it wasn't really even seen as addictive! And when you look at it it should be as "easy" to taper as Valium but isn't. It's kind of strange, it seems like quite a vile med that way.

As for sedating and non sedating benzos, being sedated can even increase my anxiety, so I stay away from stuff that is physically sedating. There is nothing worse than an alert mind in a drugged body for me.

Some people feel really calm as their body is drugged, those people usually like antihistamines as well, because it ties their body down. For me that equals panic.

So, people are really different that way, I guess that is why doctors should really understand that benzos are not all the same. I have met doctors who claim they are all the same with different names. Sigh.

As for Valium LOL, had a paradoxical reaction on it and even if docs want me on it (because it is "less" addictive than Xanax), I remember the feeling on it wanting to go out and do mischief. It made me really hyper. I guess people don't usually react like this....

But I think still most people feel oxazepam and Valium are really different, they are almost the only benzos used where I live, and those I know who take them, will all claim that the "other" benzo is inferior, LOL. I hear people going off oxazepam onto Valium, but rarely the opposite direction. It simply seems like oxazepam is the least liked benzo of them all.

Oh my! Could not have said it better myself: I can't stand that feeling when you're anxious, but feel drowsy and dizzy.

Strange, I've never heard of people reacting to benzos with such energy. Just shows you that we can't predict the exact outcome of the use of drugs.

A few days after the oxazepam trial, I took Valium for the first time and found it to be effective in calming my agitated state, but without causing any noticeable sedation.

Thanks for the response!

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you can take 1 mg of lorazepam or Ativan when in a right state and 20 minutes later be feeling great, its that simple, 10mg valium is the same strenth and you would feel nothing for 2 hours and the minimal, PEOPLE.S lives have been saved by 1mg of Ativan, a suicide jumper in America had 2 mg of Ativan onboard has he was being talked off a roof , they kept him talking while the drug took effect 20 minutes after that the guy was talking freely and came off the roof , if it had been valium he would be in a body bag , he would not have stood there 4 hours waiting till it worked , ATIVAN ----- XANAX the best Benzos on the pl;anet and the most addictive ,

You can't judge the potency of a medication by how much milligram you need to take. If you look at it that way, clozapine would be a weak antipsychotic - and that's certainly not the case.

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Originally Posted by Breadfish

You can't judge the potency of a medication by how much milligram you need to take. If you look at it that way, clozapine would be a weak antipsychotic - and that's certainly not the case.

We have been through all this in the answers above, of course, you can judge the potency of the med your taking read up about it first i take 6mg of lorazepam a day yes a day , that should knock a horse out but it don't me , because i have taken it for 40 years first has Ativan then generic lorazepam, Now I would need 60 to 80 mg of valium to do the same job only slower to match Ativan , i also take 5 mg Olanzapine a day plus 30mg of Mirtazapine at night . If you just started on my meds you would not wake for a week but it barely touch,s base with me such is the power of mega anxiety and the power of meds on different patients

I mean, you can't say lorazepam is stronger than oxazepam just because you need more milligram for the oxazepam to work. Of course 10 mg of med A is more potent than 5 mg of med A.

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Originally Posted by Breadfish

I mean, you can't say lorazepam is stronger than oxazepam just because you need more milligram for the oxazepam to work. Of course 10 mg of med A is more potent than 5 mg of med A.

YOU HAVE 2 MED A ?????? 1 MG OF MED A may be 10 times stronger than med B FOR INSTANCE 1 MG ATIVAN MED (A) IS 10 TIMES STRONGER THE 1MG VALIUM MED( B )

If that were true, risperidon would be a stronger antipsychotic than clozapine. And that's not the case.