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Old Aug 25, 2009, 11:13 PM
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Why do T Vacations have to be so painful -- for us? Why do we just sit here and take it like there are no other options? I have a few thoughts and ideas.

Hospitalization
Why can't we be admitted to the hospital for the week or two or three so we can get round the clock care? Separation does NOT have to be painful. Here is a picture of all of us and some thoughts we may or may not be having:

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SLEEP POD
Why can't we go into a Sleep Pod and suspend time like Sigourney Weaver? We could bypass the pain and aggravation and be protected from Aliens to boot. How can this NOT be an option?

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A WORMHOLE
I realize that scientists haven't figured this one out yet, but we need to lobby for advancement and studies on wormholes. Basically, the hypothesis is that they can warp the time-space continuum and allow people to go forward into the future or back in time. This is physics hypotheses, not science fiction. We could basically fast forward and skip the pain. Yes, I see the negative energy that we will have to pass through, but that's where we are stuck anyway. I want to see the other side.

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Old Aug 25, 2009, 11:58 PM
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How about Hypnosis?????????????? We could be hypnotized into believing T never left.

Or we could get Chris Angel to bring them back.

Or Cloning? Did you forget cloning?
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 01:24 AM
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forget that...why can't we all go on quality expensive vacations and they get to stay home and mope and miss us for 3 weeks????????

they could call us and we could not answer our phones while we get massages, and play rounds of golf, and lounge about, and hike, and swim, and sail, etc.

ponder that option.

stumpy
whose t actually mailed a postcard from vacation (okay one of the peeps asked for it) and is now on week 2 of the 3 week thang & is actually doing quite well
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 01:26 AM
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LOL at the Wormhole idea!

What if you resolve all of your issues. He/she comes back and you're like: "actually, I'm content. Thanks. Is there anything I can help you with?"
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 01:00 PM
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Love the ideas, AM!

I'm a little over halfway through T's vacation. I'm going to my first Reiki session this evening, so I'll see if that helps with the T vacation survival!
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 01:03 PM
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How about Hypnosis?????????????? We could be hypnotized into believing T never left.

Or we could get Chris Angel to bring them back.

Or Cloning? Did you forget cloning?

Yes, great ideas!

YOU'VE BEEN HYPNOTIZED!
Yes, we could be hypnotized into believing T never left. OR we can be hypnotized to feel independent. =) It's fun solving the world's problems, T vacations being the foremost issue in the forefront.

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CLONING
Hmmm. This has a lot of possibilities! What I found would revolutionize therapy altogether! You know man's best friend? And how we'd like to have our T as a friend? Well, the search is over, lol!!!

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Now, when we're away, our Tdog will greet us with the utmost of joy! They will actually miss us=) We can keep them on a leash --lololol. We can put him in the doghouse if he's not complying with rules and boundaries set forth - such as if he bites us. We can have the unconditional love that we crave (speaking for myself I guess). Thanks for the great idea Coco! lol I think this is my favorite laughable contribution to victims of T Vacations.
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 01:05 PM
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LOL at the Wormhole idea!

What if you resolve all of your issues. He/she comes back and you're like: "actually, I'm content. Thanks. Is there anything I can help you with?"

Hmmmm, I LIKE it! When he comes back, I'm going to tell him I'm unreachable. (yeah right). lol
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 01:08 PM
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Love the ideas, AM!

I'm a little over halfway through T's vacation. I'm going to my first Reiki session this evening, so I'll see if that helps with the T vacation survival!

Yes, let us know how Reiki goes! I don't know, though, I really don't think anything is going to top DogT, lol. We need to write a book about it with all of our ideas. It's good to hear that you're halfway through! =)
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 03:23 PM
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A perfect solution! This is me sleeping on my t's desk.......

This thing was freakin' hysterical......
I want that T-Dog!
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 04:35 PM
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Okay, the TDog scared me...

But the rest is making me
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 04:44 PM
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lol, Yes! TDog is pretty scary!
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 06:57 PM
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Yeah, get the spray bottle out....for the no no's.....
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When you feel your nearing the end of your rope tie a knot and hang on !!!
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 09:22 PM
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forget that...why can't we all go on quality expensive vacations and they get to stay home and mope and miss us for 3 weeks????????

they could call us and we could not answer our phones while we get massages, and play rounds of golf, and lounge about, and hike, and swim, and sail, etc.
Thanks for that thought, Stumpy! LOL!
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 10:20 PM
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OMG the TDog...((((((((((((AM))))))))))))))))))

How about the blow up T I mentioned in your other post. That would work too.
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 10:32 PM
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NOTHING is working! At this point I am unable to think of anything but the last session. I do have things to do, but the stress from emotional overload is wearing me down. I am SOOO feeling the compulsiveness to somehow be relieved and it is damaging the therapeutical relationship because I can't escape the resulting emotions from session. T can escape it, but I can't. I asked him if I could see another T while he was gone, but he "forgot" to ask. I AM SO ****ING ANGRY AND ENRAGED! And there's nothing I can do about it. They won't admit you into the hospital unless you're suicidal or something.

How can anyone go about their lives when they know someone is in pain? My emotions have taken over, and I just don't get it. I feel worthless and emotionally abandoned. How could this happen? Why do I care?

Here is an excerpt from Philip Bromberg's, Awakening the Dreamer: Chapter 5 - Potholes on the Royal Road.

"If an analyst cannot recognize that he has been protecting himself against feeling the unprocessed pain being evoked in his patient by what they are doing together, then he cannot feel personally sorry. . . .about that aspect of it, and his patient is forced to sequester his unrecognized feelings as though they do not exist. And, indeed, they do not exist as part of the self, because dissociated aspects of self will not be "real" unless they come to exist affectively in the mind of the other. If they are not personally real for the analyst, then they are not personally real for the patient either."

He talks about how the therapist has to deal with his own emotions that he is both hurting (triggering) the patient AND helping the patient. The analyst often feels shame/guilt about this but may dissocciate that feeling.
What really struck me was the last sentence because it puts into words how I have felt for a long time about my neediness. It is still my opinion that it has to be accepted before it can change. However, I also would tell T that for some reason HE needed to accept it before I could.
Granted, I don't have the early childhood trauma that some do, but for some reason I'm still needy. T said to me last session, "Your mother was really empathic when I met her." It totally made me feel like I have no reason to be so insane.
My emotions desperately want him to call or have the T from his office call to set up an appointment. BUT my brain will have NOTHING of this. My brain is telling me to cancel EVERY session and NEVER GO BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want him to feel like I do -- in agony. I WANT to trigger him and then leave him with NO way of resolving the problem. That way, MAYBE he would take me seriously. I truly can't put into words how disorganized/ confused/ enraged/ and humiliated I feel. He ISN'T listening to my words. I don't want to be this way. I apologize for my incessant complaining and appreciate all of your support.
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 10:57 PM
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but for some reason I'm still needy. T said to me last session, "Your mother was really empathic when I met her." It totally made me feel like I have no reason to be so insane.
(((Antimatter)))) OMG! That would have freaked me out. Yes- I would have felt invalidated, too.

If you feel needy, there is a reason. And its in your history somewhere. I dont know anything about your mother, but I had a mother who could fool everyone. People loved her. But it didnt prevent her from being abusive at home.

About your feelings about your t- it was a real bad session Of course you need to be taken seriously and your feelings validated.
When is he coming back? Did you ever leave a message there or find out who/why you got a call?

I can completely understand why you would want to punish the guy, but I say go back and talk to him rather than leave yourself angry.

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Old Aug 26, 2009, 10:58 PM
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((((((((((((AT))))))))))))))) No need to apologize!!! I'm just starting for myself how painful attachment to T is. I totally understand.

Have you had a chance to explore with T where this is all coming from? I just went through four months of butting heads with T, it sucks. I felt alone, misunderstood, wanting to quit, that he didn't care about me, that he wasn't helping or hearing me. It was really hard. I almost quit, T asked me to stay on till the end of the month. Then things got better and here I am.
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 11:08 PM
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(((Antimatter)))) OMG! That would have freaked me out. Yes- I would have felt invalidated, too.
If you feel needy, there is a reason. And its in your history somewhere. I dont know anything about your mother, but I had a mother who could fool everyone. People loved her. But it didnt prevent her from being abusive at home.
About your feelings about your t- it was a real bad session Of course you need to be taken seriously and your feelings validated.
When is he coming back? Did you ever leave a message there or find out who/why you got a call?
I can completely understand why you would want to punish the guy, but I say go back and talk to him rather than leave yourself angry.
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My Mom was really great, but I desperately wanted my Dad to pay more attention to me. No, I have no idea why anyone called and did not leave a message. My intellect part won't allow it=( My intellect part is SOOOO angry at my neediness!!!! That's why I don't need T to be, I've already internalized that part. I'll go back on Tues., I'm sure. I know my neediness will have it no other way. Why does that part of me allow others to reject it but then keep going back? I feel like a slave to myself, if that makes sense.
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 11:13 PM
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(((((((Coco))))))))))) --
Yes, my T and I have had this same enactment a billion times. I was the one who actually stepped out of it by letting that part of me speak. My T somehow got caught up in it again and played his usual role, the rejecting part. Then he left me with all this emotional @#$@@#$@#. I seriously question whether or not he is going to be able to or want to accept this part of me with sincerity. This just plain sucks. Thanks for your support=)
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 11:16 PM
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I'll go back on Tues., I'm sure. I know my neediness will have it no other way. Why does that part of me allow others to reject it but then keep going back? I feel like a slave to myself, if that makes sense.

Im glad you'll go back.

I really understand. I do the same thing- for me I think I go back to see if I can be loved or just be lovable. I just keep trying. But sometimes its like trying to buy apples from a hardware store.....
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OUCH!!!!!!!!!
It seems as though you and T keep repeating some kind of traumatic experience from your childhood. Maybe, as you said, it was some kind of rejection/invalidation from your father. It is so hard when we can't point the finger exactly at something and say, AHA-THERE IT IS! I truly understand why you want T to feel what you are feeling because then you won't be alone in your pain and it can resolve. I really really get that. Last session (before his break) I was telling T that I didn't think I needed a witness (as he calls it). He wanted to know what was wrong with that and I was trying to explain to him that what I wanted was for someone to feel my **** along with me, not just witness it. I wonder if you can bring that article into therapy with you to explain to T what you are trying to get at.

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