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Old Mar 10, 2012, 12:39 PM
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Chopin,

I read your thread last night and again this morning. I truly don't know what to say other than to send you big hugs and hope that your T recognizes that imposing her beliefs is creating a rift between you all. I was so excited for you after your appt earlier this week and am saddened that opening up like this brought up such a difficult situation. It seems like you already know this, but there is nothing at all wrong with your sexuality. I have a very dear friend (a mom-like person) whose beliefs are like those of your T about homosexuality. I am not homosexual but have many close friends who are and it's frustrating for me to see the discrimination they endure with respect to health insurance, visitation at the hospital, etc. Besides they are just great people and human beings. Hearing that they are sinning, bad people from this dear friend pushes me away from Christianity (at one point I was a Christian), but beliefs like this just seem to me wholly incompatible with acceptance and love that Christianity is supposed to espouse. OK, enough w/ my rant... I hope your T will get back to you and that you all can talk this out and come to a place where you can work together. It sounds like your sexuality and the affair are things that you need to talk out in therapy sooner rather than later. I hope that you can find a safe space to do this with her or another T. Again,
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Old Mar 10, 2012, 03:02 PM
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I am a lesbian who grew up believing that my very self was inherently wrong, and it made me want to die. I am super sensitive to others suggesting that I- or the way I am living- is wrong. But even to me, your T's suggestion that homo/bi-sexuality is sinful is not the most disturbing part of what she said.

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I told her that time in my life is when I SI'd and diagnosed bipolar and borderline and she said, "That's what sin does to people. It destroys lives [...]"
Sin does not cause mental health difficulties. Sin does not cause Bipolar Disorder. Sin does not cause Borderline Personality Disorder. Mental illness is caused by a complex interaction of genetic and environmental factors. This is not opinion- we know this. If 'sin' is involved, it is sins perpetrated by other people on the victim, as so many on this board have experienced. The idea that I, or the many people I know and love, or the many many people on these boards, are suffering from mental health difficulties as a result of their own sin is abhorrent to me, and I would not be able to return to a 'therapist' who believed this. This belief is not tolerable in anybody, but a therapist of all people should know better. She should be ashamed of herself.
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Old Mar 10, 2012, 03:27 PM
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Sin does not cause mental health difficulties. Sin does not cause Bipolar Disorder. Sin does not cause Borderline Personality Disorder. Mental illness is caused by a complex interaction of genetic and environmental factors. This is not opinion- we know this. If 'sin' is involved, it is sins perpetrated by other people on the victim, as so many on this board have experienced. The idea that I, or the many people I know and love, or the many many people on these boards, are suffering from mental health difficulties as a result of their own sin is abhorrent to me, and I would not be able to return to a 'therapist' who believed this. This belief is not tolerable in anybody, but a therapist of all people should know better. She should be ashamed of herself.
Thank You Improving! That was the kicker for me as well. My t would fall off of his chair if he had heard this come out of her mouth. I don't even know this lady but she managed to offend me. Probably many others who read this as well. Bad T.
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Old Mar 10, 2012, 05:27 PM
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as a christian i don't believe she meant personal sin caused mental health issues. but if she did you are right that is wrong. however she could have meant the sins of adam and eve in the garden when they ate of the fruit. before that moment everything was perfect for them. that moment is when humanity was cursed because of their sin. that let in a whole lot of imperfections. so in a sense she is correct, but in a sense she is totaly and absolutely wrong! it depends on how she meant her statement.
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Old Mar 10, 2012, 05:59 PM
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I would hope any client would thwart sword thrusts. The therapist should not be attempting to impale the client.

If the sort of more fundamentalist christian approach is what you want, then okay and I am not trying to criticize that. But if you want to explore your sexuality and responses to women and men, regardless of how you come down in the end, then perhaps this is not the approach for you.
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Old Mar 10, 2012, 11:52 PM
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If you do not think she crossed the line into inappropriate expose of faith and harm causing - then okay. I think it is possible to have a different reaction to her words. But you are the only person who can decide it for you. Good luck with her response.
I agree, I think it is a really unclear line to say that a characteristic of a person is unacceptable but yet the t somehow still respects the person.
But I hope it works out somehow.

Also, I completely agreed with your self assessment that cheating is wrong but being bisexual is fine. I also cheated on an ex-girlfriend and will always wish I hadn't. The cheating didn't have anything to do with my bisexuality though. Like you, I haven't "expressed" my bisexuality for a long time (meaning I haven't dated another woman), but I still identify myself as bisexual whenever that comes up.
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