Home Menu

Menu


Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #26  
Old Apr 03, 2012, 06:23 AM
Trippin2.0's Avatar
Trippin2.0 Trippin2.0 is offline
Legendary
 
Member Since: May 2010
Location: Cape Town South Africa
Posts: 11,937
I've never had a badly behaved Dr, but I avoid nurses like the plague. They tend to treat the patients like an inconvenience...

Last edited by turquoisesea; Apr 03, 2012 at 01:42 PM. Reason: Admin edit

advertisement
  #27  
Old Apr 03, 2012, 07:03 AM
Anonymous32910
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Serotonin View Post
I've been reading and thinking about the bad doctor phenomenon, and I have come to the conclusion that many members of the medical profession enter medicine not as a means of treating and improving people's health, but as a means of exercising absolute power and control over people, and with the added bonus of being able to treat their patients as if they wee subhuman entities, and mostly get away with it.

I have no statistics to substantiate my suspicion, but I am certain that there is a considerably high rate of sociopathy among medical doctors, as well as surgeons and lawyers. The supreme irony of this is that people who take the "Hippocratic oath" are in fact hypocrites, who instead of improving their patients mental, emotional, and physical condition, may actually exacerbate their patient's conditions and make them worse.

Manners and politeness cost nothing. Treating another human being as a human being is not an arduous task, in fact I personally find it very difficult not to treat other people in a courteous manner, and even if I don't like them. Yet for many doctors, treating their patients with some dignity and respect seems to be a virtual impossibility. It's almost as if they were rude by default. And what can you do other than make a complaint, which is usually ignored, denied, and/or dismissed.

There is something fundamentally wrong and deeply flawed among members of the medical profession, and I think that egomania may play a significant role. Someone once said to me that "surgeons don't become surgeons because they want to cure people, they become surgeons because they enjoy cutting people up". Of course I laughed, but the more I think about it, the more it becomes apparent that this might actually be true.

We have psychopaths and sadists for doctors and surgeons, and these people who are responsible for our well-being are the very same people who pose the biggest threat to our well-being, and who we need to protect ourselves against.

And that's a very scary thought.
The only problem I have with your massive generalizations about members of the medical community is that they are just that, massive generalizations. As you read in my earlier post, we dealt with one horrendous doctor whose actions were malpractice. But by far our experience has been positive rather than negative. There are awful practitioners in every occupation, but to judge the entire field on the actions of a few is in error.
  #28  
Old Apr 03, 2012, 07:06 AM
KazzaX KazzaX is offline
Grand Member
 
Member Since: Mar 2011
Posts: 852
I live in australia, so that's why I can't bring up the "me going in last at the GPs office" thing. They would just tell me i am imagining it or twist it round to say that I am racist. The term Racist is thrown around here like hotcakes. I am definitely not racist - I quite like the culture around here (Vietnamese) and if I had a problem with it I would find some other area to live in. It's just that (I think) they are kinda cliquey and because I am an outsider (ie not known to their friends and family - family is a BIG THING here), they treat me last.

When I was in the psych ward the nurses were ok. But the psychiatrist (they had ONE psychiatrist for 40 high needs people in there! can you believe that?) was HORRIBLE. He diagnosed me with a "bad attitude and laziness" and sent me home. The way he spoke to me was horrendous. Like I was a piece of pond scum. And he basically told me that because I was not actively psychotic, that I was wasting his time and resources even being in there. He acted like I was just trying to go in there for a vacation or something. Never mind the fact that I was suicidal (thats why I was in there). Every option I suggested he had about 100 reasons why it would not work. ECT? no. Certain meds? no. Why people would vacation in the psych ward is beyond me. I got the impression that he needed more treatment than I did!! haha
Thanks for this!
growlycat
  #29  
Old Apr 03, 2012, 07:09 AM
KazzaX KazzaX is offline
Grand Member
 
Member Since: Mar 2011
Posts: 852
Quote:
Originally Posted by farmergirl View Post
The only problem I have with your massive generalizations about members of the medical community is that they are just that, massive generalizations. As you read in my earlier post, we dealt with one horrendous doctor whose actions were malpractice. But by far our experience has been positive rather than negative. There are awful practitioners in every occupation, but to judge the entire field on the actions of a few is in error.
I used to think they were massive generalizations too. That was until I got in there and saw it with my own two eyes! I wouldn't have believed it unless I had seen it myself. I guess its a bit like rumours - there is always a small element of truth to them.
  #30  
Old Apr 03, 2012, 07:25 AM
Serotonin Serotonin is offline
Account Suspended
 
Member Since: Mar 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 205
Quote:
Originally Posted by farmergirl View Post
The only problem I have with your massive generalizations about members of the medical community is that they are just that, massive generalizations. As you read in my earlier post, we dealt with one horrendous doctor whose actions were malpractice. But by far our experience has been positive rather than negative. There are awful practitioners in every occupation, but to judge the entire field on the actions of a few is in error.
They may be generalizations to you, to me they are sentiments born out of many real life interactions with many doctors over many years. So glad to hear that the majority of your experience of the medical profession has been positive. Just keep in mind that not everyone has had such a glowing, positive experience of doctors, and that to denigrate their accumulative experience as mere "generalizations" is not only born out of pure ignorance, but is also a tad naive.
  #31  
Old Apr 03, 2012, 11:28 AM
mcl6136's Avatar
mcl6136 mcl6136 is offline
Magnate
 
Member Since: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,082
Quote:
Originally Posted by stopdog View Post
Yes. I do not use them anymore except in rare situations when I need a bone set or antibiotics.

I enter their offices only if bleeding from a main vein ....ie the jugular
Thanks for this!
stopdog
  #32  
Old Apr 03, 2012, 11:46 AM
anonymous8713
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I
Quote:
have come to the conclusion that many members of the medical profession enter medicine not as a means of treating and improving people's health, but as a means of exercising absolute power and control over people, and with the added bonus of being able to treat their patients as if they wee subhuman entities, and mostly get away with it
I haven't wanted to get involved with this discussion because, although I am a medical provider, I personally don't like to go to the doctor myself and I know that people have legitimately negative experiences. However, the above quote is 100% wrong.

People get in to the medical field because they want to help people. Period. End of statement. People get burnt out by medicine for a variety of reasons (some valid, some not- I don't see any point in getting into that). I think a lot of the bad experiencess that people have come during interactions with burnt out providers. That doesn't change the fact that medical people (dr's, nurses, allied...), at some level, at some point wanted to do good for others.

Share your gripes, vent, that's OK. But when you make statements like that you are offensive to people who devote their lives to service to others.

Last edited by wanttoheal; Apr 03, 2012 at 04:21 PM. Reason: administrative edit
Thanks for this!
growlycat, pachyderm, pegasus
  #33  
Old Apr 03, 2012, 03:16 PM
Serotonin Serotonin is offline
Account Suspended
 
Member Since: Mar 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 205
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucydog View Post
I

I haven't wanted to get involved with this discussion because, although I am a medical provider, I personally don't like to go to the doctor myself and I know that people have legitimately negative experiences. However, the above quote is 100% wrong.

People get in to the medical field because they want to help people. Period. End of statement. People get burnt out by medicine for a variety of reasons (some valid, some not- I don't see any point in getting into that). I think a lot of the bad experiencess that people have come during interactions with burnt out providers. That doesn't change the fact that medical people (dr's, nurses, allied...), at some level, at some point wanted to do good for others.

Share your gripes, vent, that's OK. But when you make statements like that you are offensive to people who devote their lives to service to others.
I can understand your need to label what I have said as "100% wrong", and your dismissal of my lifetime's experience of doctors as someone who doesn't know what he is talking about, as you have clearly stated that you are a healthcare provider, although have taken care not to specify in what capacity.

I disagree that all doctors get into medicine because they want to help people. Some get into it for the power and status that being a medical practitioner provides. Many may simply be following in their father's/mother's footsteps and sustaining family tradition, and maybe due to parental pressure, and without considering other professions. Some medical students may simply be status seekers eager to obtain that white coat and position of authority. Sure, they could become lawyers instead, but doctors have always occupied the top notch in the professional status hierarchy.

Many doctors I have come into contact with have displayed such an uncaring, irritable, aggressive, impatient, and authoritarian attitude that I have firmly suspected them of being sociopathic by nature. And if they are merely "burnt out", well, they shouldn't be allowed to continue practising within their profession, as "burnt out" doctors may not only be putting their patients mental and emotional health at risk, they could ultimately be putting their lives at risk.

I'm not saying that all doctors are evil megalomaniacs and control freaks who attempt to not only exercise complete power and control over their patients, with some going so far as to attempt to bully, dominate, and humiliate their patients, I'm saying that some do, and I have personally experienced them.

That is not being offensive, that is being truthful. And I do know what I am talking about, as what I am talking about comes from my own personal experience of doctors.
Reply
Views: 3354

attentionThis is an old thread. You probably should not post your reply to it, as the original poster is unlikely to see it.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:04 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.




 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.