Home Menu

Menu


Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old Jun 07, 2012, 04:08 AM
CantExplain's Avatar
CantExplain CantExplain is offline
Big Poppa
 
Member Since: Oct 2011
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 19,616
Just something that came to me...

When someone suffers from hypothermia, they are cold and irritable. They might also be hungry and thirsty.

But you must not expose the patient to direct heat and you must not give them anything to eat or drink. That pulls warm blood away from the brain and could kill the patient.

Instead, the best way is to expose them to normal body heat. It takes a long time to warm them up that way but it is the safest course.

I think something very similar happens in therapy. The patient is desperate for love and affirmation, but the therapist seems cold and unresponsive. Mere listening politely doesn't seem anything like enough! But it works in time. And to do more might be very dangerous.
__________________
Mr Ambassador, alias Ancient Plax, alias Captain Therapy, alias Big Poppa, alias Secret Spy, etc.

Add that to your tattoo, Baby!
Thanks for this!
Nightlight, TinaL

advertisement
  #2  
Old Jun 07, 2012, 04:52 AM
stopdog stopdog is offline
underdog is here
 
Member Since: Sep 2011
Location: blank
Posts: 35,154
Unless the client does not have hypothermia.
  #3  
Old Jun 07, 2012, 04:55 AM
Anonymous33425
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Lol, stopdog!

This is interesting though, I've previously read a couple articles on 'emotional thawing' and how it is painful, like when one has frostbite and begins to warm up...
  #4  
Old Jun 07, 2012, 06:39 AM
WikidPissah's Avatar
WikidPissah WikidPissah is offline
Euphie Queen
 
Member Since: Jul 2010
Location: New England
Posts: 10,718
Interesting. I had hypothermia a few years ago. I went out on a mile long jetty in the dead of winter during an ice storm wearing a thermal hoodie. You don't actually feel cold after a certain point, just really crappy and kind of numb.

I needed warm IV fluids and lots of blankets then. Wonder exactly what I need now?

Edit: Remembering this, the rescuers did apply heat packs to my neck and groin.
__________________
never mind...
  #5  
Old Jun 07, 2012, 01:04 PM
granite1's Avatar
granite1 granite1 is offline
running with scissors
 
Member Since: Aug 2009
Location: in my head
Posts: 15,961
cant that is definately an interesting analogy
__________________
BEHAVIORS ARE EASY WORDS ARE NOT

Dx, HUMAN
Rx, no medication for that
  #6  
Old Jun 07, 2012, 01:37 PM
ListenMoreTalkLess ListenMoreTalkLess is offline
Veteran Member
 
Member Since: Feb 2012
Posts: 575
I would say that my hyperthermia has definitely not been linear. But the times that I am most desperate for affirmation are the times that I perceive T to be most cold. Nicely working paradox
  #7  
Old Jun 07, 2012, 01:39 PM
Anonymous32732
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by CantExplain View Post
Just something that came to me...

When someone suffers from hypothermia, they are cold and irritable. They might also be hungry and thirsty.

But you must not expose the patient to direct heat and you must not give them anything to eat or drink. That pulls warm blood away from the brain and could kill the patient.

Instead, the best way is to expose them to normal body heat. It takes a long time to warm them up that way but it is the safest course.

I think something very similar happens in therapy. The patient is desperate for love and affirmation, but the therapist seems cold and unresponsive. Mere listening politely doesn't seem anything like enough! But it works in time. And to do more might be very dangerous.
I read somewhere that a good psychotherapist knows what is "wrong" with a patient within 2 or 3 sessions. At that point the T could tell them what their problems are and what they have to do to fix them in one session.

But .... you know what the client would do. Deny, deny, deny. I don't think we can see and accept truths about ourselves until we're ready. The pain would be too great, so we don't see these things until we're strong enough to accept them.

So CE I like your analogy. It has to be a gradual process and we need to go at our own pace.

And in the meantime, we're begging the T for food and drink and throwing fits when we don't get them.
  #8  
Old Jun 08, 2012, 12:19 AM
CantExplain's Avatar
CantExplain CantExplain is offline
Big Poppa
 
Member Since: Oct 2011
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 19,616
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBunnyWithin View Post
I read somewhere that a good psychotherapist knows what is "wrong" with a patient within 2 or 3 sessions.
I must ask my T about that. But on past experience, she would deny it.

Nevertheless, the next bit is true. Telling the patient what's wrong with them does no good at all. They have to work it out for themselves or they would never believe it.
__________________
Mr Ambassador, alias Ancient Plax, alias Captain Therapy, alias Big Poppa, alias Secret Spy, etc.

Add that to your tattoo, Baby!
  #9  
Old Jun 08, 2012, 03:19 AM
Anonymous32795
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Can't explain. Yes I think that's pretty spot on. I read a book about therapy and the Borderline patient where said something similar.
Thanks for this!
CantExplain
  #10  
Old Jun 08, 2012, 06:13 AM
critterlady's Avatar
critterlady critterlady is offline
Magnate
 
Member Since: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,344
My T is not at all cold and unresponsive. He's warm and caring and routinely responds to me
  #11  
Old Jun 08, 2012, 10:02 PM
CantExplain's Avatar
CantExplain CantExplain is offline
Big Poppa
 
Member Since: Oct 2011
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 19,616
Quote:
Originally Posted by critterlady View Post
My T is not at all cold and unresponsive. He's warm and caring and routinely responds to me
I'm glad you can see that!

For the first couple of years I couldn't see the warmth at all.
__________________
Mr Ambassador, alias Ancient Plax, alias Captain Therapy, alias Big Poppa, alias Secret Spy, etc.

Add that to your tattoo, Baby!
Reply
Views: 949

attentionThis is an old thread. You probably should not post your reply to it, as the original poster is unlikely to see it.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:06 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.




 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.