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#76
Jun 24, 2012, 01:47 PM
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I did read in there somewhere that you could keep your camera off, and only she be visible. Or you can text/type...don't quite know how that would go with your hands...um..er...busy..
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#77
Jun 24, 2012, 04:00 PM
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I am by no means conservative when it comes to sensuality, sexuality, bodies, or nudity. When I was 18, I lived on a hippie compound for goodness, sake! I've been to non-sexual nude events. I posed for a nude portrait for a photographer friend. I'm fully aware that nudity can be non-sexual. You also speak of her clients in the first person like you were there. Not all clients are the same. To quote you... And these feeeeelings CAN be dealt with in regular everyday therapy with some, if not most, experienced, ethical T's. You get the f in comprehension. This is a forum of open discussion why make it personal. Just because you don't agree. 
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#78
Jun 24, 2012, 04:08 PM
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what that means is the clients in the publicized therapy sessions have already agreed to let their treatment providers put their therapy sessions on tv, radio cable and uploaded to youtube before anyone else sees them. the films and videos that clients do dont have to have release forms signed because they are uploading their own therapy sessions. a client can do anything they want with their therapy information including tell anyone they want, put it on the internet what ever. |
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Jun 24, 2012, 04:14 PM
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you have a GREAT name! I am TOTALLY jealous!
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Jun 24, 2012, 04:26 PM
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If she is just a cheap sex show she should be shut down. But we can't let one person ruin what may be a good thing. "For Duty and Humanity" quote from the original "Men in Black"  (The Three Stooges)
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#81
Jun 24, 2012, 04:53 PM
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"Therapy" is not a word anyone can own, just means "the attempted remediation of a health problem". If she and her clients believe what she does is helpful, then so be it.
She's interested in art and nude bodies are artful to some. Combining nude bodies "talking" could be an interesting combination; I'm not particularly into nude bodies (although I have such a painting in my bathroom :-) and not particularly into trying out this type of attempted remediation of a health problem. But I don't care if someone else does.
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#82
Jun 24, 2012, 04:56 PM
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and that's why I push the envelope with my T, I really appreciate that he allows me to and tell him so, and I encourage people here to go for it now, not in some imaginary future. I was thinking the other day about how people here have quoted Erving Yalom as saying he doesn't hug fat girls - well, of course not; you hug the little girl inside. I wonder if a similar principle isn't operative here. How do you go from a no-hug childhood to an adult physical relationship? We could be more sensitive to men's feelings in this.
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#83
Jun 24, 2012, 05:08 PM
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it's really weird, I was watching Taboo last night and they had a surrogate on there. They were saying how the whole surrogate career is dwindling, there are only around 50 in the USA right now...that kind of made me sad. I got a firm understanding of the client, this was a woman surrogate in her 60's and she had mostly male clients. These guys didn't know how to be intimate, and she was basically teaching them how to love a woman. I think of an awkward kid that doesn't get the opportunity to loose his virginity before ending college. His likelihood of finding a virgin mate is slim, so he doesn't have the usual relationship where they "figure it out together". He can read books, but what better then to have a woman actually show him, and teach him.
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#84
Jun 24, 2012, 05:11 PM
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Nah, he hated fat women, fatness, didn't have to do with the little girl inside: http://litmed.med.nyu.edu/Annotation...iew&annid=1200
Hugging is practiced. If you were not hugged, did not learn to hug, it's a scary thing, touching or being touched by another; you don't know "how". Having someone that physically close, when my stepmother got that close, it was to hit me, not hug me? How do I know all closeness isn't like that? I have to learn it is not all like that; I have to be confronted by people who want to hug me (cause I ain't gonna want to get close enough to where they can hit me :-) and do, despite my put-off attitude and who show enjoyment, etc. and after a million such hugs, where I get a little comfortable with one or another special person, I sort of hug back and when I find someone I know won't "hurt me" I remember that hugging and being "held" feel really good so I let the other hold me and hold them back.
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Jun 25, 2012, 03:49 AM
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 My point doesn't have anything to do with privacy laws or the rights of people to make their therapy sessions public - I'm sorry if I'm being unclear.Of course the meaning of the word "art" can be discussed, but basically, art is a representation of life in some way, that is intended to convey some kind of message. Just taking random recordings of conversations (therapeutic or not) and try to get funding for them as an art installation just won't fly. If the "therapist" (for want of a better term) had had an artistic purpose with recording the sessions, it might have been different. I've seen art installations of nude people talking - I find it uninteresting and frankly quite boring, but I accept that it can be art. But that doesn't mean that any recording of nude people talking is automatically art. |
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Jun 25, 2012, 06:05 AM
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#87
Jun 25, 2012, 07:16 AM
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The TV series "In Session" depicts psychotherapy sessions and I would imagine she and any client she'd be filming with would be doing a similar sort of thing, only "live" with her kind of sessions. The client would know what was going on and might get some of any proceeds/fame, have their face blocked out or voice disguised like you see in other reality TV like cop shows, etc., whatever the client wanted when they agreed to the filming I imagine. She has modeled before so I could see some "art" there (if I had to :-)
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Jun 27, 2012, 10:32 AM
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As is often said, there is a difference between something that may be therapeutic and therapy. This may *possibly* have the potential to be therapeutic. So is playing with my dog. But I don't expect Doc John to recognize my dog as a therapist.
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Jun 27, 2012, 12:13 PM
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is it just me or has everyone here felt "naked" at one point or another in therapy, sitting there fully clothed but feeling exposed to the core by what you're saying?? I can't bring myself to click the link either. Emotional nakedness is quite enough for me, thankyouverymuch I think I'll keep my clothes ON! LOL
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#90
Jun 27, 2012, 01:47 PM
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Well said! I won't add anymore to that, just sayin', "ditto!"...Although I did click the link and since I have a bad headache, couldn't read the whole article, but it seemed...well, different
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