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Old Feb 12, 2013, 12:20 PM
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Exactly I think evey t should be in therapy, it should be a requirement!

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Old Feb 12, 2013, 12:22 PM
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I think they should be able to talk about your success and progress as well. I got frustrated because the therapist was able to say "what new goals do you want to work on?" but wouldn't tell me about my progress. Success is important in treatment as well, at least to me.
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 12:51 PM
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Aren´t the purpose of being in T, if wanting to become a T to get supervision/ mentorship from proffesional tutors/ your T?...Not (ONLY?) looking for support in a forum filled with psych clients? Arent Ts in therapy themselves to process their issues, so they WITH their T can discuss ways to handle their issues dealing with clients in the future? IDK thats how my T explained why he have been in therapy himself. Again he does not have any mental problems. Just went to be aware of his own countertransference and stuff.
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 12:58 PM
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 01:04 PM
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Don't give up on it all, button. They say the only way is 'through'... It's tough, but you will come out the other side
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 01:05 PM
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Yes I am in training but we need help and support too with our stuff! Why the personal attack I am of the theory if you have nothing kind or supportive don't say anything at all
That is the attitude my T has. He never says anything negative. I have told him I had enough negative messages from my family to last me a few lifetimes. I kept waiting for him to yell at me when I first started seeing him. I mean to tell me what I'm doing wrong. But he never would. Being negative is easy. Pointing out what went wrong, being critical, is easy. But being always happy and supportive and encouraging - like you have to be with kids? like you have to do to change our internal voice from crabby to good? - is not easy. I think you hit on something important here.
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 01:07 PM
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Today is a really bad day
I have decided to quit therapy for good because all it is doing is pointing out all of the bad things in my life and to be honest I can't F******* cope with them anymore. I am done with it and with ts and with my course and everything and everyone


Therapy usually causes more problems than it solves as it is too much money. They take one problem away and hand you another.
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 01:14 PM
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Exactly I think evey t should be in therapy, it should be a requirement!
Including you, right?
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 02:56 PM
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Including you, right?
Exactly even though I am struggling with recent insights, if I continue on this path I will absolutely have to stay
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 03:00 PM
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That is the attitude my T has. He never says anything negative. I have told him I had enough negative messages from my family to last me a few lifetimes. I kept waiting for him to yell at me when I first started seeing him. I mean to tell me what I'm doing wrong. But he never would. Being negative is easy. Pointing out what went wrong, being critical, is easy. But being always happy and supportive and encouraging - like you have to be with kids? like you have to do to change our internal voice from crabby to good? - is not easy. I think you hit on something important here.
Hankster, this is so true it is easy to judge and critisise lord knows we all do but it is harder to stay happy and positive and your t sounds like he has a very good attitude! I try to stay happy but the last few years have been tough but I make sure never to unload my stuff on others and that is why I come here for support! Thank you everyone
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 03:06 PM
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Yes I am in training but we need help and support too with our stuff! Why the personal attack I am of the theory if you have nothing kind or supportive don't say anything at all
I was not attacking. I apologize that this came across that way. My point was that I didn't think that, deep down, you really feel this way. That's all. You have never appeared to be a hypocrite or a sadist, and that leads me to believe that if you want to be a therapist, this is not really your attitude. I'll butt out and say nothing.
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 03:51 PM
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Exactly even though I am struggling with recent insights, if I continue on this path I will absolutely have to stay
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I mean, good.
Welll.... YOU know how it is.
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 03:57 PM
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Today is a really bad day
I have decided to quit therapy for good because all it is doing is pointing out all of the bad things in my life and to be honest I can't F******* cope with them anymore. I am done with it and with ts and with my course and everything and everyone
Do you remember yesterday when you said you were glad you went to see this new T?

http://forums.psychcentral.com/showt...53#post2878353

You did note that it can be painful to realize hard truths about yourself and your life, but yesterday you were soldiering on and today you can't take it, but nothing has changed.

Yes, it is difficult. It takes courage to face these things, but are you any less capable than everyone else here?

I see a pattern with you posting something positive about your therapy, and then crashing into negativity less than 24 hours later. I bet if you go through you own threads you can see this too.

Maybe part of the work you need to do is identifying the reason why you are so up and so down within such a short period, and how this affects your mental health more broadly.
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 04:02 PM
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Today is a really bad day
I have decided to quit therapy for good because all it is doing is pointing out all of the bad things in my life and to be honest I can't F******* cope with them anymore. I am done with it and with ts and with my course and everything and everyone
It's ok button. It's understandable that we're going to have bad days - some worse than others. Bringing up all the stuff we have to work through in therapy can be scary and exhausting and really hard to cope with.

I've felt at times that I've wanted to pack everything up and move away from everything and everyone I know to try to escape the feelings I was experiencing, but I suspect those feelings would have followed me wherever I went.

Do you feel comfortable talking to your therapist about how you're feeling? I hope you do and find some relief from doing so.

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Old Feb 12, 2013, 04:48 PM
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Been there, done that. I hope you're feeling better and that your new T can help you see the light of day again soon.

I very recently told my T the same thing. He told me it wasn't an option. That if I walked out of his office, I had to promise that I would walk right into the door of another therapist and tell them that I need help. My DH was recently in a session with us when we disclosed my ED and made it clear that it's a deal breaker for our marriage if I quit therapy. Talk about pressure! Good thing, I trust my T completely, because he's already told me we're in it for the long haul!

It's very hard to see the positives when it starts getting hard, but please, please give it another chance.
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 05:30 PM
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I was not attacking. I apologize that this came across that way. My point was that I didn't think that, deep down, you really feel this way. That's all. You have never appeared to be a hypocrite or a sadist, and that leads me to believe that if you want to be a therapist, this is not really your attitude. I'll butt out and say nothing.
I agree that your desire to become a T belies this belief you express that therapy doesn't do any good. I can see how it might have felt like an attack, but I assure you it wasn't. It's pointing out an inconsistency in your thinking, which can be tough to hear, but is really important to examine. We all have them.

Put in a different way -- if you had a client walk in and tell you, "I don't want to know about my issues, I just want to hide them, so I'll be quitting," would your response really be, "Yeah, you're right, it's better not to know yourself"?

This is a recurring theme with many of us here -- we are far more unkind to ourselves than we would be to anyone else. You would encourage your own patient to work through the bad stuff, and to see that having had bad experiences does not make one a bad person, and that they are resilient and have so much potential. Have some faith in yourself, Button. You're stronger than you think you are. You have made it this far, haven't you? You have already experienced these things that the new T brought up, and you will continue to experience them if you keep pretending they don't exist. You have survived these experiences, and you will survive confronting them as well. Treat yourself the way you would your own patient.
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 07:59 PM
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I was not attacking. I apologize that this came across that way. My point was that I didn't think that, deep down, you really feel this way. That's all. You have never appeared to be a hypocrite or a sadist, and that leads me to believe that if you want to be a therapist, this is not really your attitude. I'll butt out and say nothing.
Sorry MKAC, I think I over reacted and obviously misinterpreted things. I see now what you meant, I apologise for jumping down your throat. I am a little sensitive lately and can sometimes take things up the wrong way. I am sorry Please don't butt out, I value your comments. it is not really my attitude, its just the way I felt today. I dont think it is good for me personally right now but I can see progress and the benifits of it but sometimes I think it holds me back and today is one of those days.

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Do you remember yesterday when you said you were glad you went to see this new T?

http://forums.psychcentral.com/showt...53#post2878353

You did note that it can be painful to realize hard truths about yourself and your life, but yesterday you were soldiering on and today you can't take it, but nothing has changed.

Yes, it is difficult. It takes courage to face these things, but are you any less capable than everyone else here?

I see a pattern with you posting something positive about your therapy, and then crashing into negativity less than 24 hours later. I bet if you go through you own threads you can see this too.

Maybe part of the work you need to do is identifying the reason why you are so up and so down within such a short period, and how this affects your mental health more broadly.
I actually din't realize that at all well not on here but I realized that in real life that my moods are very unstable and one minute I can be laughing and joking and the next minute I am in floods of tears- this is another reason I think there is something wrong with me. I know I am very sensitive to peoples moods around me and often I let them affect me. This is definately something I will have to work on
Thank you for pointing this out Anne.
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It's ok button. It's understandable that we're going to have bad days - some worse than others. Bringing up all the stuff we have to work through in therapy can be scary and exhausting and really hard to cope with.

I've felt at times that I've wanted to pack everything up and move away from everything and everyone I know to try to escape the feelings I was experiencing, but I suspect those feelings would have followed me wherever I went.

Do you feel comfortable talking to your therapist about how you're feeling? I hope you do and find some relief from doing so.

Bluey
Bluey, you are right,
these feelings will come with us unless we learn to change something or cope with them. I am just not sure how to process them yet. I do feel comfortable talking to new t but I am afraid of getting to close to her yet. I miss my old t, I could tell her anything.
I hope your feelings have passed now and you don't feel like running away anymore?

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Been there, done that. I hope you're feeling better and that your new T can help you see the light of day again soon.

I very recently told my T the same thing. He told me it wasn't an option. That if I walked out of his office, I had to promise that I would walk right into the door of another therapist and tell them that I need help. My DH was recently in a session with us when we disclosed my ED and made it clear that it's a deal breaker for our marriage if I quit therapy. Talk about pressure! Good thing, I trust my T completely, because he's already told me we're in it for the long haul!

It's very hard to see the positives when it starts getting hard, but please, please give it another chance.

Your t is amazing, it is nice that he is so supportive this helps a lot. I think this is what is at the root of my problems that I don't have any support right now and I am not sure how to go about getting any. I have to learn to open up and trust people. I have done lots of personal development this year but I have a hell of a lot more to do.
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I agree that your desire to become a T belies this belief you express that therapy doesn't do any good. I can see how it might have felt like an attack, but I assure you it wasn't. It's pointing out an inconsistency in your thinking, which can be tough to hear, but is really important to examine. We all have them.

Put in a different way -- if you had a client walk in and tell you, "I don't want to know about my issues, I just want to hide them, so I'll be quitting," would your response really be, "Yeah, you're right, it's better not to know yourself"?

This is a recurring theme with many of us here -- we are far more unkind to ourselves than we would be to anyone else. You would encourage your own patient to work through the bad stuff, and to see that having had bad experiences does not make one a bad person, and that they are resilient and have so much potential. Have some faith in yourself, Button. You're stronger than you think you are. You have made it this far, haven't you? You have already experienced these things that the new T brought up, and you will continue to experience them if you keep pretending they don't exist. You have survived these experiences, and you will survive confronting them as well. Treat yourself the way you would your own patient.

I don't believe therapy does no good, but I do believe it is not doing me good right now Sally. I think it is holding me back from dating, from living and from moving on with my life. This is just where I am at right now, it is not my belief that it works like that for others but it is just MY predicament.

I am trying to be kinder to myself and more accepting and I think this is why I get bullied and taken advantage of because I am too kind to others and not kind enough to myself. I gave too much of myself away to my ex and got nothing in return. I am really trying to work on this and I like new t's approach, she says we all enough and we have to be kind and buy ourself a present. I know this t will do me good but I don't know of I am strong enough right now for it.
I have been having lots of bad days again and can feel my depression getting worse. Another thing that t said was try and make things into present tense for example " i am depressing" this means I am aware of it and can change it instead of saying "I am depressed" this statement is a constant one and feels as though it is permanent.

Thank you Sally, Your comments are always beautifully worded and full of insights
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 12:42 AM
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Hi Pbutton30,
I haven't been posting or reading here for a little while, so missed your new t thread but will read it!
I want to say I'm sorry you had such a bad day today. I too got a bachilors degree in counseling, and am still not sure if I'll ever be emotionally strong enough to go down that path professionally. I just don't know, and I try not to worry about it.
If right now therapy feels too much then I think that's fine. You've had so many up and down experiences with your other t, and I think the one before that too if I remember correctly. So it's understandable that at times you might not know just what to think of the process and aren't sure about continuing. Maybe taking a break and just seeing how you feel could be helpful to you. I'll support you whatever you decide. You've always been such a caring member of this group and so just wanted to say though I certainly don't have any amazing advice or anything feel free to PM me if you need to talk.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 12:47 AM
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It is but maybe I have too many issues and I am not able for this right now, thats why I want to run away
Where would you run to?
What would you do when you got there?
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 03:24 AM
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You can run from therapy, but you can't run from the reasons you were there (if only!).

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Old Feb 15, 2013, 01:54 AM
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Therapy is hard, and most of us give up several times along the way.

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Old Feb 15, 2013, 11:12 AM
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Button - how are you doing today?
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 06:56 PM
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Hi Lola, well I still want to give up and especially to run away from new t. I don't know why but today I really do not want to ever go back to her
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