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Old Mar 01, 2013, 10:18 PM
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What is Argo? Do not comprehend. And yes, my google is broken.
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 10:21 PM
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The movie Argo... it won an academy award recently....LOL
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 10:29 PM
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They've been going on about that movie on the radio here, I think. About whether we should be bothered that it misrepresents NZ's role or accept that it's fiction and just move on.

No input from me since I haven't seen it! (Although it won't be keeping me up at night.)
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 10:32 PM
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Nz? I heard it was all accurate except the end.
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 10:40 PM
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Articles here are saying things like:

'Director Ben Affleck has addressed his Oscar-winning film Argo's controversial treatment of New Zealand, saying he "loves New Zealand and New Zealanders". . .

He told the New Zealand Herald's TimeOut magazine last year that he struggled with the portrayal because it cast Britain and New Zealand in a way that wasn't "totally fair".'

Which really doesn't bother me at all, personally! It's just been talked about a fair bit lately here. I barely know what the film is about...so I don't get a say. My history knowledge isn't spectacular either.
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 10:49 PM
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Well, apparently I would fail a popular culture quiz. I am devastated. Lola, did you check out Duane Allman on Bobby McGee?
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 10:51 PM
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ok me and the wife watched it and have no idea where Britain or NZ have anything to do with it... weird... Let me know if you watch it and you see something I missed
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 10:53 PM
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Argo From Wikipedia
Upon its wide release in October 2012, the film was criticized for its claim that the New Zealand and British diplomats had turned away the American refugees in Tehran. Diplomats from New Zealand had proved quite helpful; one drove the Americans to the airport[41], and organised a place for them to hide if they had to change places.[42] The British hosted the Americans initially, but the location was not safe and all considered the Canadian ambassador's residence to be the better location. British diplomats also assisted other Americans beyond the six.[43] Bob Anders, the U.S. consular agent played in the film by Tate Donovan, said, "They put their lives on the line for us. We were all at risk. I hope no one in Britain will be offended by what's said in the film. The British were good to us and we're forever grateful."[44]
Sir John Graham, the then-British ambassador to Iran, said, "My immediate reaction on hearing about this was one of outrage. I have since simmered down, but am still very distressed that the film-makers should have got it so wrong. My concern is that the inaccurate account should not enter the mythology of the events in Tehran in November 1979." The then-British chargé d'affaires in Tehran said that, had the Americans been discovered in the British embassy, "I can assure you we'd all have been for the high jump [i.e., in trouble]."[44] Martin Williams, secretary to Sir John Graham in Iran at the time, was the one who found the Americans and sheltered them in his own house at first. The sequence in the film when a housekeeper confronts a truckload of Iranian revolutionary at the Canadian ambassadors home bears a striking resemblance to Mr Williams' own story. He has told how a brave guard, Iskander Khan, confronted heavily-armed revolutionary guards and convinced them that no-one was in when they tried to search Williams' house during a blackout. Mr Williams said "They went away. We and the Americans had a very lucky escape." The fugitives later moved to the home of the Canadian ambassador and his No2.[45]
Affleck is quoted as saying to The Sunday Telegraph: "I struggled with this long and hard, because it casts Britain and New Zealand in a way that is not totally fair. But I was setting up a situation where you needed to get a sense that these six people had nowhere else to go. It does not mean to diminish anyone."[44]
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Well, apparently I would fail a popular culture quiz. I am devastated. Lola, did you check out Duane Allman on Bobby McGee?
No I was watching Argo.... which has a really good soundtrack, might I add.
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 10:54 PM
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"Why is New Zealand’s top politician taking the time to complain about the movie, given that most non-Kiwi viewers probably didn’t even notice the film’s one passing mention of his country?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...et-about-argo/

I guess that's why they're all complaining. We were involved (like Britain) but the movie didn't acknowledge it. I'll check the film out myself at some point! With my history knowledge, I probably would have missed it if it wasn't pointed out to me too!

And now I'm dashing off to feed the hungry horse. Have a good one everyone!
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 10:58 PM
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I was 6 when it happened...so I forgive myself.
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 11:05 PM
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I was 6 when it happened...so I forgive myself.
I forgive you as well. I was a freshman in college. We joined a protest group, Free the Hostages, we were told we were going to march to downtown Chapel Hill to He's Not Here for free beer. We jumped in, and the parade did not go to He's Not. We were persuaded by a free beer promise that did not materialize.
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 11:08 PM
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I was graduating from high school around Argo time. I think they had been hostages for like 100 days before I knew anything was going on.
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 11:08 PM
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seriously .... how old are you Ike? You looked my age.... no wonder your wife doesnt want us to be bff's ...lol
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 11:12 PM
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I am 52, boyish good looks and killer charm. I am older than SD, OMG, She seems so much more mature than me. But I have the maturity of a 12 year old.
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 11:14 PM
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I am 52, boyish good looks and killer charm. I am older than SD, OMG, She seems so much more mature than me. But I have the maturity of a 12 year old.
Not by much and I was born to be middle aged. I love it.
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 11:15 PM
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I remember Ted Koppel, "DAY 92 of the Hostage Crisis" updates on Nightline.
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 11:16 PM
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I am 52, boyish good looks and killer charm. I am older than SD, OMG, She seems so much more mature than me. But I have the maturity of a 12 year old.
killer charm...lol boyish good looks... did your wife tell you this? lol j/k
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 11:18 PM
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I'm an anachronism. I should have been a teenager in the Summer of Love.
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At that point in life, I was not into anything that happened after 1899. I was completely wrapped up in 18 and 19th century literature and Renaissance music and marching band.
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 11:20 PM
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I'm an anachronism. I should have been a teenager in the Summer of Love.
You and LC have hippiedom fantasies in common. Cut that hair and take a bath. Put real shoes on and for god's sake tuck it all back in.
And put the Lettermen LP on.
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 11:23 PM
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I'm an anachronism. I should have been a teenager in the Summer of Love.
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 11:26 PM
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killer charm...lol boyish good looks... did your wife tell you this? lol j/k
No, that is my own light -hearted depiction. Feel free to poke fun. A friend of mine did refer to me as " a redneck Buddha, who looks for enlightenment with a combination of literature and good reefer." I took some pride in that. And I see the Junkies next Saturday and you don't, unless you are coming to Chapel Hill. So neener neener.
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 11:29 PM
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You and LC have hippiedom fantasies in common. Cut that hair and take a bath. Put real shoes on and for god's sake tuck it all back in.
And put the Lettermen LP on.
Lettermen, ACK, ACK, and I notice you did not capitalize GOD. Maybe we should stone you, with gravity bongs. If my hair was any shorter, i would need a straight razor.
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 11:31 PM
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No, that is my own light -hearted depiction. Feel free to poke fun. A friend of mine did refer to me as " a redneck Buddha, who looks for enlightenment with a combination of literature and good reefer." I took some pride in that. And I see the Junkies next Saturday and you don't, unless you are coming to Chapel Hill. So neener neener.
Got an extra ticket and willing to put me up...???
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