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Feb 28, 2014, 08:19 PM

I don't see you letting anyone down, Granite. You are fine. Really.

My H brought me some refrigerated probiotic tablets from the pharmacy. I took the first dose and had a light dinner. Hope it works.

granite1 · Feb 28, 2014, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by velcro003

Granite--just want to point out (as you seem to be ok with!) that i think when you see/feel the negativity going on, you automatically include yourself and how you feel about yourself in it and i think it hurts you. Like there is/was one mini-thing giong on between Hankster/Wiki, and somehow you generalized it to where you can't say anything for fear of a double standard. To me, that perpetuates more negativity, which, who needs that?! I think this sounds confusing, I can't quite word it the way I am thinking it in my head. Basically, do what YOU want, not out of fear of anyone else's "maybe' reactions.

If there was a *handclap* emoticon, I would totally put that there! This is along the same lines of what I was trying to say to Granite.

Well, i've never been in a serious relationship (with the possible exception of my boyfriend in HS, which was 16 years ago) and avoid them at all costs..so i think it must effect that somehow. I've been completely single for 10 years, and not even close to dating, or going on dates.

i think i understand i'm sorry

velcro003 · Feb 28, 2014, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by granite1

sorry i seem to have let people down here

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Originally Posted by granite1

i think i understand i'm sorry

nooooo!!! I KNEW this would be read wrong. I should have waited until I could clarify it better in my head. I more meant that I wish you didn't take on others' problems and make it into your self-worth and make you feel more sh*tty about yourself. What I saw was a tiff with Hankster/Wiki over one comment on here. They hashed it out, but you came out with the fact that there are double standards, therefore you should watch what you say, for fear of being judged…when I think that hurts you and makes you feel worse about yourself. Instead, maybe see it has nothing to do with you--in the fact that you should feel like you can post/say whatever you feel. Don't worry what others might think so much. That is SO MUCH HARDER to do in real life than me spouting it off, I know. I just wanted to point that out because I don't want you beating yourself up for no reason.

Feb 28, 2014, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by granite1

sorry i seem to have let people down here

You havent let me down!

Feb 28, 2014, 08:50 PM

Wiki..I am 50% irish and St Patricks Day was only second to Christmas Day in my family of origin! Oh and by the way my FOO did not drink! So it is possible to be sober and Irish :

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This year older son and I will actually be in Boston for St Pattys Day.

Ike McCaslin · Feb 28, 2014, 09:03 PM

This song takes me back.

CantExplain · Feb 28, 2014, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by granite1

sorry i seem to have let people down here

Not me. I think you're great and getting better every day!

granite1 · Feb 28, 2014, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by velcro003

nooooo!!! I KNEW this would be read wrong. I should have waited until I could clarify it better in my head. I more meant that I wish you didn't take on others' problems and make it into your self-worth and make you feel more sh*tty about yourself. What I saw was a tiff with Hankster/Wiki over one comment on here. They hashed it out, but you came out with the fact that there are double standards, therefore you should watch what you say, for fear of being judged…when I think that hurts you and makes you feel worse about yourself. Instead, maybe see it has nothing to do with you--in the fact that you should feel like you can post/say whatever you feel. Don't worry what others might think so much. That is SO MUCH HARDER to do in real life than me spouting it off, I know. I just wanted to point that out because I don't want you beating yourself up for no reason.

lol no no no it really didn't i totally understand what you are saying . but you got to admit i was on a bad roll today and do need to say sorry . it helps me feel better to.i do try to learn how to interact and be ok with others .and let them be . i agree . but i need better words

granite1 · Feb 28, 2014, 09:27 PM

thanks everyone

RTerroni · Feb 28, 2014, 09:29 PM

It's OK granite we are not mad at you.

healed84 · Feb 28, 2014, 09:39 PM

I have a question about dbt

So, is the basic thought in DBT when it comes to work on your emotions is that.. generally your reactions can't be trusted and that you have to retrain how you react emotionally to things?

growlycat · Feb 28, 2014, 09:44 PM

I know I am crazy for the ginger tea for tummy stuff. Crystalized ginger, boiled ginger root all do it for me. (recently had mega IV rounds of antibiotics after a serious bite---a smaller version of my avatar)

granite1 · Feb 28, 2014, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by healed84

I have a question about dbt

So, is the basic thought in DBT when it comes to work on your emotions is that.. generally your reactions can't be trusted and that you have to retrain how you react emotionally to things?

it sure seems like it but im not sure that is what it is suppose to be

healed84 · Feb 28, 2014, 09:56 PM

I am just really angry.. My body rebels against me in so many levels. I have a panic disorder, so my body just over reacts panic wise for the smallest things. Tonight, in between trying to take care of my daughter who had an allergic reaction to her antibiotics I am trying my hardest not to throw up, or have a full blown panic attack because my mind and body goes to the extreme when bad things happen.

T tells me today that my emotional reactions that I am having to stuff like problems in my marriage, self hate, etc.. aren't really rationally based and we have to work on doing that (where he brought up DBT)// and that is where I want to scream at him and say.. It is all his fault. We have been working on connecting emotions to my trauma- we wanted the emotions come out.. and now here they are and they are wrong? GRRRRRRR!

DelusionsDaily · Feb 28, 2014, 10:11 PM

DBT for me has been about learning to regulate emotions. Emotions themselves aren't bad but sometimes the intensity of the emotion is disproportionate to the situation. DBT just teaches skills to cope with emotions so they don't seem overwhelm me so often. I don't know if that makes any sense...I hope so.

growlycat · Feb 28, 2014, 10:40 PM

I have not participated in DBT but I have read the handbook. It is helpful to just "notice things" without having to judge the situation or react right away. Checking in with myself is important too , to be honest w/myself about how I'm doing.

unaluna · Feb 28, 2014, 11:11 PM

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/02/28...l?from=science

Well apparently you have to be an elephant to get any sympathy around some parts

stopdog · Feb 28, 2014, 11:13 PM

I am having annoying back spasms.
The thing I am struggling with is whether this is pain or just annoyance that should be ignored. Am I whining or is this legitimate pain for which taking an advil or tumeric etc would not be an over-reactive hypochondriac-ish action?

stopdog · Feb 28, 2014, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hankster

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/02/28...l?from=science

Well apparently you have to be an elephant to get any sympathy around some parts

What about the elephants who don't like trunk hugs?

growlycat · Feb 28, 2014, 11:17 PM

Stopdog--didn't the tennis ball trick work last time?

What's the opposite of a hypochondriac.. a stoic?

unaluna · Feb 28, 2014, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stopdog

I am having annoying back spasms.
The thing I am struggling with is whether this is pain or just annoyance that should be ignored. Am I whining or is this legitimate pain for which taking an advil or tumeric etc would not be an over-reactive hypochondriac-ish action?

Take the drugs. Pretend theyre dangerous and antiestablishment. Dont make me trunk hug you.

Eta - sorry - definitely showing my prejudice. Id be dead without my drugs.

unaluna · Feb 28, 2014, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by growlycat

Stopdog--didn't the tennis ball trick work last time?

What's the opposite of a hypochondriac.. a stoic?

They had an article last week or so in the nytimes about how dangerous cat bites can be. I got bit my first day volunteering at a shelter - i swear the cat tricked me - and was miserable for a week.

growlycat · Feb 28, 2014, 11:28 PM

I had a pet sitting mishap --bratty lapdog vs my tabby. I got caught in the middle. 10 IV bags of antibiotics plus 2 weeks of oral meds.

This happened about 1.5 wks ago

Funny to see this pop up on pc
Does that Cat Bite Mean You Also Have Depression? | World of Psychology

unaluna · Feb 28, 2014, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by growlycat

I had a pet sitting mishap --bratty lapdog vs my tabby. I got caught in the middle. 10 IV bags of antibiotics plus 2 weeks of oral meds.

This happened about 1.5 wks ago

Funny to see this pop up on pc
Does that Cat Bite Mean You Also Have Depression? | World of Psychology

Holy crap. Your avatar might have been a gentler outcome!

Eta - hmm. Maybe doc john has too much free time on his hands?!

stopdog · Feb 28, 2014, 11:34 PM

Cat bites and scratches can be treacherous

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