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Old Mar 27, 2014, 06:27 AM
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OK, so I have to tell you what happened to me last night. I collapsed badly and I know I should have called an ambulance. But I had been in the ER so much lately that I thought, well if I just relax and try to keep myself hydrated, increase pain medication, perhaps I can stick this out all by myself. God, I was so sick!! Then, about half an hour into my ordeal I get a text message from my therapist. (She has never texted me that late) She wrote that she had a strange feeling and if I was OK. I texted back that I was in a lot of pain. She wrote back to say: "Probably not professional, but I have to be human here! Would you like me to come and see you? I can take you to the hospital. "
(It was just before midnight!!) I just said 'OK' - I was actually quite overwhelmed by her kindness and wanted to express that better, but I was too sick to show.
When she was here, she picked me up off the floor, took me to hospital and end of story.. (At least the one I want to share here)

But, what resonated in my brain later was that comment she made: "Probably not professional, but I have to be human here."
I mean, did she do something wrong? Seriously, can she get in trouble for helping me like she did? I worry about this.

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Old Mar 27, 2014, 06:34 AM
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I am glad she was there for you. I don't think she'll get into trouble. I mean, I don't know much about USAnian laws and codes of ethics, but it doesn't sound like something that could possibly cause future problems for her. If it were a patient who would demand that T would always come and drive her to the hospital, I can see how a T might want to protect themselves against that... but you are not at all that kind of person, so of course your T won't worry about it.

It is human to worry about our Ts, but I honestly don't think it is something you need to do.

Take care of yourself. I hope you got some relief at the hospital.
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 06:38 AM
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No, she did nothing wrong at all. She was following her intuition in calling. My T did the same thing a few years back. I took it as him just being very intuned to me.

Hope you are doing a bit better today. I went through the cancer struggle with my sister and I know sometimes it seems like one crisis after another. Do you have others available to help you?
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 06:55 AM
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No, she did nothing wrong at all. She was following her intuition in calling. My T did the same thing a few years back. I took it as him just being very intuned to me.

Hope you are doing a bit better today. I went through the cancer struggle with my sister and I know sometimes it seems like one crisis after another. Do you have others available to help you?
At the moment I am by myself at home, so usually I take the best care of myself that I can when nobody is around. As this is not my home country my support system isn't very big..

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Old Mar 27, 2014, 07:00 AM
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At the moment I am by myself at home, so usually I take the best care of myself that I can when nobody is around. As this is not my home country my support system isn't very big..

Amelia
I hate to hear that. You really need someone you can call on when you aren't doing well. I don't know if you are a church-goer, but I've found there are always people willing to help in congregations. Hope your day goes better.
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 07:23 AM
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Very glad that she came and took care of you, Amelia (and i hope you are a bit better now?). It seems there was some sort of strong ‘telepathic’ connection between the two of you, as she seemed to sense something was up & contacted you! She did a very caring thing, she’s a good T, one who has a heart.

If I may add though... Please, if you are in any such situation in the future (collapsing or feeling unwell), do go to the ER. Don’t try to stick it out by yourself.

Are there any friends or anyone else you could contact in such emergency or crisis situations, so that you are not all alone? Is it something you might discuss with T so she could help out? There must be something available.. well, i would hope..
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 07:30 AM
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Very glad that she came and took care of you, Amelia (and i hope you are a bit better now?). It seems there was some sort of strong ‘telepathic’ connection between the two of you, as she seemed to sense something was up & contacted you! She did a very caring thing, she’s a good T, one who has a heart.

If I may add though... Please, if you are in any such situation in the future (collapsing or feeling unwell), do go to the ER. Don’t try to stick it out by yourself.

Are there any friends or anyone else you could contact in such emergency or crisis situations, so that you are not all alone? Is it something you might discuss with T so she could help out? There must be something available.. well, i would hope..
Yes, usually I am good at calling my doctor or 911 if it's really urgent. I just feel like I had enough sometimes and I hate spending the night at the ER and then in hospital. It's so expensive too.. I am a self-pay patient so ER visits and hospital stays add up to quite a lot. So I think yesterday I was hoping it would just pass.. But well, I know better for next time. Yes, I am a little better today, thank God!
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 07:35 AM
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aww, sorry about your fall Amelia. I hope things get a bit better soon.

Thank goodness for your very attuned T. I don't think she'll get in trouble at all. It sounds like she was thinking out loud when she said what she did about being human versus professional...
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 07:57 AM
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She won't get in trouble if there isn't a complaint filed against her, so don't worry. She has helped you in a time of real need and that's okay. that's great actually. Some therapists get away with having sex with their clients or harming them in other ways. I'm sure she will be fine.

I think what she meant was that she was stepping outside of professional boundaries. Psychotherapy isn't the ER and a therapist isn't technically supposed to help clients in such concrete ways, because then they become too involved and it can harm both client and therapist. BUT this was not the case here. I believe it's welcome and necessary to really physically help a client in such a difficult situation, like it is with everything you're going through. I'm really glad for you that you have such a sensitive, intuitive therapist who has the heart and courage to go out of her way for you when you really need it. Hope you are feeling better now.
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 08:00 AM
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No. She will not get into trouble. She reached out to you. This was HER choice. Like everyone has said, I would try to have a backup person to call if you need. And let your therapist know that. Best of luck

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Old Mar 27, 2014, 08:20 AM
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I don't think she'll get in trouble at all. I'm sorry about your fall and I'm glad you're feeling a bit better today
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 08:41 AM
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If she works for herself, then I don't see how she would have any push back. If she is the employee of someone else, they could have various rules.
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 09:31 AM
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What she meant by that was probably that therapy and therapeutic interaction should normally happen in the therapy room, and she shouldn't really act or do anything other than be your therapist. So the fact that she came and got you and took you to the ER steps outside of that a little bit. But no, she's definitely not doing anything "wrong".
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 09:37 AM
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we are just glad she was there to help you
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 11:12 AM
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At the moment I am by myself at home, so usually I take the best care of myself that I can when nobody is around. As this is not my home country my support system isn't very big..

Amelia
Amelia,

Ask your doctor to call hospice. They have numerous ways to provide support.

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Old Mar 27, 2014, 11:29 AM
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OK, so I have to tell you what happened to me last night. I collapsed badly and I know I should have called an ambulance. But I had been in the ER so much lately that I thought, well if I just relax and try to keep myself hydrated, increase pain medication, perhaps I can stick this out all by myself. God, I was so sick!! Then, about half an hour into my ordeal I get a text message from my therapist. (She has never texted me that late) She wrote that she had a strange feeling and if I was OK. I texted back that I was in a lot of pain. She wrote back to say: "Probably not professional, but I have to be human here! Would you like me to come and see you? I can take you to the hospital. "
(It was just before midnight!!) I just said 'OK' - I was actually quite overwhelmed by her kindness and wanted to express that better, but I was too sick to show.
When she was here, she picked me up off the floor, took me to hospital and end of story.. (At least the one I want to share here)

But, what resonated in my brain later was that comment she made: "Probably not professional, but I have to be human here."
I mean, did she do something wrong? Seriously, can she get in trouble for helping me like she did? I worry about this.

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no I dont think she did anything wrong...here where I live and work when ever a treatment provider is helping someone when they are off duty they have to differentiate the two...being on the job (professional) and being off duty (a caring individual/ human being)

kind of like if a doctor is off duty but as they are out they come upon an accident. they inform the victim or other responders to the accident.. they are a doctor, off duty can they help, do you need any help.

my opinion is that she was letting you know even though she was off duty (she had to be a human being not a professional at that moment) but as a human being she could come over and transport you to the hospital where you could get treatment from a professional that was on duty.

my own treatment providers have done this kind of thing for me many times.
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 03:32 PM
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Your T sounds very attuned Amelia.
I hope you are feeling much better now?
All best wishes. A&A. Xx
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 06:26 PM
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She didnt do anything wrong. She was being nice and helpful, sounds like Hope you feel better.
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 07:25 PM
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It is nice to hear of therapists who can be human, I don't think it was wrong of her to do it. Sometimes being human is more important than being professional.
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It is nice to hear of therapists who can be human, I don't think it was wrong of her to do it. Sometimes being human is more important than being professional.
This thread reminded me of something an old T did that felt both professional yet extremely human at the time. It's a long story, but it was probably the most human and touching thing a T has ever done for me.

I was in college (30 years ago-ish). I was doing very poorly and my dad decided to confront my abuser (one of them). Dad had even called my T and discussed it with him, so T was quite aware of what was going down.

That evening after my dad had talked to my abuser, the abuser got in his car and was headed to find me. I was warned and called my T. He could have just said call the police if there is a problem or go somewhere else, but instead, he came to get me because he was concerned about my abuser's state of mind and my safety. He took me to his home for my safety, somehow found a way to contact my abuser, and told him to call him when he arrived in town. (Yes, T's wife and kids where there and very gracious.)

T didn't want my abuser contacting me in any way without his supervision. It was clear he wouldn't leave town until he saw me, and T decided if my abuser was bent on talking to me, he would be doing it with his involvement and under his watchful eye.When he did finally arrive, T did just that, not only under his care but having arranged for the police to be covertly in the building just in case. The meeting was okay. It gave me the safe opportunity to say what I needed to say to my abuser, and T sent me out of the room in order to speak to my abuser privately. I would have loved to be a fly on the wall for that discussion.

It was that sheltering me in his own house that I remember the most. It went beyond the call of duty and really showed his protective instinct. His humanity saw me in immediate danger and he did what he had to do without stopping to debate with himself about professionalism. He told me years later that it was a frightening situation and he never would have been able to live with himself if he had done any less and something had happened to me. Sometimes circumstances arise (usually emergencies or extraordinary events) when T's do what we all would do. They go with their instincts and do the human thing.

Amelia's T was doing exactly that, the right and only human thing under the circumstances.
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 08:58 PM
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I hope your feeling better Amelia - it's horrible to be on your own & also worry about costs for medical treatment. I'm so glad your T was there for you, she sounds like a very caring person & I don't think she did anything wrong. Look after yourself x
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 11:03 PM
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Amelia, I'm so sorry that you were so ill and collapsed. I think it was completely all right for your T to come to your house and take you to the hospital. She's a special person, isn't she?

I too wish you had others to help you physically when you need them. Do you have neighbors? It's great that your T was there for you, and it's great to be as independent as you can, but it would be good if you had people in your neighborhood you could call when you need them.

I am glad you're feeling a little better now.
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I hope you are feeling better Amelia. I'm so glad your therapist called. What a good person.
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